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So what?  You're obsessed with bagging Key.  Focus on the here and now! Fortress NZ was first described and planned by Professor Michael Baker et al in 2018!!!  Cindy bought it hook line and sink

Since the neo liberal mandate begun in the 80's with Reagan,Thatcher and Douglas here in NZ, the world has been enthralled with financial chicanery at the expense of real productivity. By offshor

What prejudices?  You are the one that starting posting political cliches left, centre and right! QE isn't a medicine.  In my opinion it is a very flawed monetary tool. FFS getting back to r

30 minutes ago, holy ravioli said:

An academic!....But they go to University...Rodney taught you....indoctrinated you...well!Lol.

I guess that's why you repeat doctrine and dogma in the form of slogans and cliches.

 

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2 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said:

I guess that's why you repeat doctrine and dogma in the form of slogans and cliches.

 

some examples to back your allegations would be good.

You should quit while you're still standing!

Go and have a...bet..you'll feel better.

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52 minutes ago, holy ravioli said:

some examples to back your allegations would be good.

You should quit while you're still standing!

Go and have a...bet..you'll feel better.

Read your own posts.  You talk a load of crap about things you obviously have no idea about.  That is made even more apparent when you are questioned and found wanting.  Then you roll out another set of slogans and dogma which you clearly have no understanding about.

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1 minute ago, Chief Stipe said:

Read your own posts.  You talk a load of crap about things you obviously have no idea about.  That is made even more apparent when you are questioned and found wanting.  Then you roll out another set of slogans and dogma which you clearly have no understanding about.

Yeah right!You avoid evidence with a passion.

You cannot sustain your jaundiced opinion and you resort to facile,subjective conclusions.

I can see you never made the debating team....constantly repeating the same empty refrains  is not a basis for informed discussion.

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15 minutes ago, holy ravioli said:

Yeah right!You avoid evidence with a passion.

You cannot sustain your jaundiced opinion and you resort to facile,subjective conclusions.

I can see you never made the debating team....constantly repeating the same empty refrains  is not a basis for informed discussion.

You are projecting Holey Pasta.  You have no depth to your argument because you don't really understand what you are spewing forth.

As for your ad hominem attacks they are as inaccurate as you political assertions.

I did make the debating team three years in a row as third speaker.  I had a reputation for quick wit, rapier style rebuttal and immolating my opponents.

No doubt now you will respond with more slogans in your misguided crusade against neoliberalism not that you understand the term nor have any coherent alternative!

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19 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said:

You are projecting Holey Pasta.  You have no depth to your argument because you don't really understand what you are spewing forth.

As for your ad hominem attacks they are as inaccurate as you political assertions.

I did make the debating team three years in a row as third speaker.  I had a reputation for quick wit, rapier style rebuttal and immolating my opponents.

No doubt now you will respond with more slogans in your misguided crusade against neoliberalism not that you understand the term nor have any coherent alternative!

'I had a reputation for quick wit, rapier style rebuttal and immolating my opponents.'...lol!

Listen up...you rely on assumption,knee jerk reaction and avoidance ..that is your m.o...a neutral person only needs to scan this thread to confirm..you have NO game.

Whenever I ask you for evidence,definitions on which you base your opinion...you RUN and swerve and resort to benign epithets ,typical of those displaying cognitive dissonance.

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13 hours ago, holy ravioli said:

Listen up...you rely on assumption,knee jerk reaction and avoidance ..that is your m.o...a neutral person only needs to scan this thread to confirm..you have NO game.

How can anyone debate someone such as you who posts generally no substance interspersed with inaccuracies and political slogans?

You're obviously a fool who understands very little.

As for asserting I have cognitive dissonance again you are projecting.  My actions are certainly not at odds with my beliefs however it is clearly evident in your political diatribes that you are either conflicted in your beliefs or more likely don't have the cognitive ability to understand what you pontificate about.

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37 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said:

How can anyone debate someone such as you who posts generally no substance interspersed with inaccuracies and political slogans?

You're obviously a fool who understands very little.

As for asserting I have cognitive dissonance again you are projecting.  My actions are certainly not at odds with my beliefs however it is clearly evident in your political diatribes that you are either conflicted in your beliefs or more likely don't have the cognitive ability to understand what you pontificate about.

You attack the messenger not the message.

I'm sure you know how to milk a cow,but when it comes to economics and geo politics....go  and make some...butter.

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20 minutes ago, holy ravioli said:

You attack the messenger not the message.

I'm sure you know how to milk a cow,but when it comes to economics and geo politics....go  and make some...butter.

But you haven't posted any coherent "message".  If anything you've cut and pasted someone else's unintelligible rant.

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1 hour ago, Chief Stipe said:

But you haven't posted any coherent "message".  If anything you've cut and pasted someone else's unintelligible rant.

No cut and paste...all my own work,and you've got some nerve to suggest otherwise...desperado.

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1 hour ago, holy ravioli said:

No cut and paste...all my own work,and you've got some nerve to suggest otherwise...desperado.

Well if that's the case it is even sadder.  You may actually believe the rubbish your write.

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30 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said:

Well if that's the case it is even sadder.  You may actually believe the rubbish your write.

What is sad is that you accuse someone of what is fraud,and do not even have the decency to apologise.

My submissions are based on factual information....not emotional knee jerk reaction which is another hallmark of your retorts.

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17 minutes ago, holy ravioli said:

What is sad is that you accuse someone of what is fraud,and do not even have the decency to apologise.

 

Diddums!  None of what you write is actually original nor accurate!  To infer otherwise if fraud!

17 minutes ago, holy ravioli said:

My submissions are based on factual information....not emotional knee jerk reaction which is another hallmark of your retorts.

You haven't produced any factual information or more importantly a cogent argument with regard to cause and effect.

Your credibility is zero based on the slogans you spew forth which indicates that you truly don't understand what you write.

Hell the best economic success you could come up with for this Labour Government was the eradication of Mycoplasma bovis - which was not only false but of doubtful positive economic benefit.

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1 hour ago, Chief Stipe said:

Diddums!  None of what you write is actually original nor accurate!  To infer otherwise if fraud!

You haven't produced any factual information or more importantly a cogent argument with regard to cause and effect.

Your credibility is zero based on the slogans you spew forth which indicates that you truly don't understand what you write.

Hell the best economic success you could come up with for this Labour Government was the eradication of Mycoplasma bovis - which was not only false but of doubtful positive economic benefit.

Oh the irony ..you have come up with absolutely NOTHING,that has any basis in fact.

You keep regurgitating your subjective opinion.

Sad.

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9 minutes ago, holy ravioli said:

Oh the irony ..you have come up with absolutely NOTHING,that has any basis in fact.

How can I when you have posted nothing of any substance?  No original thought.  No detailed analysis.  Just slogans!  I guess you are one of the "team of 5 million" that have "gone hard and early".

11 minutes ago, holy ravioli said:

You keep regurgitating your subjective opinion.

I haven't regurgitated anything let alone an opinion.  I have stated a fact that you just regurgitate slogans and cliches with very little apparent understanding.

Now that is really sad.

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2 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said:

How can I when you have posted nothing of any substance?  No original thought.  No detailed analysis.  Just slogans!  I guess you are one of the "team of 5 million" that have "gone hard and early".

I haven't regurgitated anything let alone an opinion.  I have stated a fact that you just regurgitate slogans and cliches with very little apparent understanding.

Now that is really sad.

I have asked you to cite these slogans and cliches=you can't.

I have asked for your definition of Socialism,Capitalism,free markets=you can't.etc

The little Chief...that couldn't.

Give up your glaringly juvenile attempts at debate.

 

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14 minutes ago, holy ravioli said:

I have asked you to cite these slogans and cliches=you can't.

 

Don't have to - you did.

14 minutes ago, holy ravioli said:

I have asked for your definition of Socialism,Capitalism,free markets=you can't.etc

 

I can however I choose not to as they are self evident and well defined unlike your "Neo-liberalism" which is nothing but a slogan - it isn't even an ideology!

16 minutes ago, holy ravioli said:

The little Chief...that couldn't.

Give up your glaringly juvenile attempts at debate.

 

Classic pot kettle!

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29 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said:

Don't have to - you did.

I can however I choose not to as they are self evident and well defined unlike your "Neo-liberalism" which is nothing but a slogan - it isn't even an ideology!

Classic pot kettle!

'I  can however I choose not to'....that about sums up your debating 'skills'.

As fanatical as a Trumpanzee and about as...intelligent.

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3 minutes ago, holy ravioli said:

'I  can however I choose not to'....that about sums up your debating 'skills'

....because it is pointless to debate the definition of well defined concepts.  It would be a waste of time.

Now we could debate whether the concept of Communism was good or bad or that a policy of Ardens Government was a manifestation of Communisn or not.

But the concept of debate seems to be unique to you and no one else that I have encountered.  So arguably it would be an exercise in futility.

When I ask for an example of a success from good policy of this Government you clutch at straws and state totally from left field the eradication of Mycoplasma bovis.  Odd to say the least!

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12 minutes ago, holy ravioli said:

As fanatical as a Trumpanzee and about as...intelligent.

I'd be very happy to go head to head with you in a test of intelligence but from my perspective it is clearly obvious it would be a no contest and a waste of my time.

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2 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said:

....because it is pointless to debate the definition of well defined concepts.  It would be a waste of time.

Now we could debate whether the concept of Communism was good or bad or that a policy of Ardens Government was a manifestation of Communisn or not.

But the concept of debate seems to be unique to you and no one else that I have encountered.  So arguably it would be an exercise in futility.

When I ask for an example of a success from good policy of this Government you clutch at straws and state totally from left field the eradication of Mycoplasma bovis.  Odd to say the least!

O.K ,I'll give you the benfit of the doubt.

Lets debate Communism..as per your definition and include Arderns policy.Go.

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5 minutes ago, holy ravioli said:

Lets debate Communism

Nothing to debate.  I don't like it.

6 minutes ago, holy ravioli said:

Lets debate Communism..as per your definition and include Arderns policy.Go

Which policy?  Your sentence is bordering on illiterate.

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2 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said:

Nothing to debate.  I don't like it.

Which policy?  Your sentence is bordering on illiterate.

Wonder who posted this!

'Now we could debate whether the concept of Communism was good or bad or that a policy of Ardens Government was a manifestation of Communisn or not.'

Clearly you are allhat and no...cattle and pooing your pants.Give up...the hole is getting deeper.

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6 minutes ago, holy ravioli said:

Wonder who posted this!

'Now we could debate whether the concept of Communism was good or bad or that a policy of Ardens Government was a manifestation of Communisn or not.'

Clearly you are allhat and no...cattle and pooing your pants.Give up...the hole is getting deeper.

Communism is bad.

Which Arden policy do you want to debate?  Mycoplasma bovis eradication?  You seem to have a fixation with cattle.

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