Over the last few years I have not bet on the gallops because there didn't seem to be any rhyme nor reason as to why so many horses with good form etc didn't come in. False info on track conditions also didn't help. However recently I have been watching the win movers and particularly any change close to start time, and have had quite a good run of luck especially place betting wise. There is less chances in the harness but they are there just the same from time to time. It is still called gambling and losses will always appear. Thanks for your posts Joe Kidd, I enjoyed reading them.