How Sammy Spratt CHEATS

[Trojan]

18 hours ago, curious said:

I didn't say that no-one supported whip use or racing that includes whip use, but by way of perspective and reality 97,000 is about 0.4% of the population of Australia. What do the other 99.6% think. If you want to use biased data to support your fallacious argument, then good luck to you. I'll stick with mine.

Well stick with your equally fallacious argument.  Not sure what you are trying to achieve.  Obviously you've given up on the sport.  Too hard to compete?

Don't 80% of the OZ population bet on the Melbourne Cup?  Don't tell them about whips.

[curious]

1 hour ago, Trojan said:

Don't 80% of the OZ population bet on the Melbourne Cup?  Don't tell them about whips.

Where on earth did you get that figure from?

[curious]

A Finder survey of 1,008 respondents revealed 1 in 3 Australians (33%) – equivalent to almost 7 million people – have gambled on sporting events.

The research found 1 in 7 (15%) gamble on sporting events at least once a week, 7% place a bet monthly, and 12% do so once in a while.

Finder analysis reveals the average Aussie gambler spends a staggering $15,269 a year on sports betting – equating to almost $98 billion annually.

Of those who gamble, 61% have put money on the Melbourne Cup – with the average punter predicted to fork out $85 on the race that stops the nation.

 

If 33% of the population gamble on sporting events and 61% of those bet on the Melbourne Cup, that's 20% of the population by my calculations but feel free to keep making up figures to support your radical opinion.

[Trojan]

8 hours ago, curious said:

Where on earth did you get that figure from?

Survey taken in 2020.

[Trojan]

7 hours ago, curious said:

If 33% of the population gamble on sporting events and 61% of those bet on the Melbourne Cup, that's 20% of the population by my calculations but feel free to keep making up figures to support your radical opinion.

20% is enough to sustain the industry.  Not that I agree with your figures.  

Support the minority 20% of which you were once a member.

BTW what's the percentage of the population that supports Motor Racing?

[curious]

2 hours ago, Trojan said:

Support the minority 20% of which you were once a member.

Still am and still trying to make it a better sport for both horses and human participants.

[curious]

11 hours ago, Trojan said:

BTW what's the percentage of the population that supports Motor Racing?

Spurious question? I don't think motor sport has any animal welfare public perception issues.

[Special Agent]

Australians are definitely a different breed.  They like to bet, they start younger, they love a day at the races and they love to dress up.  I suppose there are more of them too which makes a crowd, a big one.

The trainers and jockeys seem to be more professional, outgoing and articulate.

Bruce Sharrock may have the right idea to try to upskill the licence holders and strive for elite groups.  We aren't like the Aussies though and New Zealand may remain a licence holder dumping ground for some time to come.

To me, the whipping rule goes around and around.  As far as too many strikes of a whip is concerned, how hard is it to count?  If jockeys cannot abide by the rules put them on the side lines for a length of time that actually has an effect on their behaviour.  I feel the fate of the industry lies with the jockeys.  The buck must stop with them.

The thoroughbred industry must learn from what is happening to the greyhounds.  There is little point moaning amongst ourselves.  It seems a different opinion is jumped on as something alien.  If we don't look at the problems differently we'll be staring at the same result as the dogs.

Judging by this site anger management companies could make a killing.

[Trojan]

On 19/12/2024 at 9:59 PM, curious said:

Still am and still trying to make it a better sport for both horses and human participants.

But you're failing and are focusing on single issues rather than the big ones.  Highlighting single issues that the majority of stakeholders don't care about nor are they interested in you forcing your moral opinion on them from a minority position.

[Trojan]

On 20/12/2024 at 6:44 AM, curious said:

Spurious question? I don't think motor sport has any animal welfare public perception issues.

Oh I guess you don't support the minority that want motor racing banned because of its affect on climate change?

[curious]

55 minutes ago, Trojan said:

But you're failing and are focusing on single issues rather than the big ones.  Highlighting single issues that the majority of stakeholders don't care about nor are they interested in you forcing your moral opinion on them from a minority position.

So, in your view, what are the big(er) issues that I should be focusing on?