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The FARCE that is Set Weights and Penalties


Thomass

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23 minutes ago, curious said:

It would be about 10.5% if you exclude NH races. Still nowhere close to 15% and NZ includes jumping races highweights etc. in their calculation.

I thought it about 8%. 1500 odd non NH events. Still, they would fall off if they weren't meeting the required level.

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4 hours ago, Thomass said:

Somebody told me it was inequatable??

Could you show how straight forward it is please?

I can read and understand the conditions in a few seconds. Starting weights for age/sex then a list of 7 bulletpoints, 3 of which only apply to winners of 2yo or 3yo races.  Show me whats not simple about it?

I would add that the conditions should appear more prominently for punters. But that applies for all race types.

 

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Have you got the 7 handy for a cutnpaste?

So no inequity?

A neddy beaten a nose gets nothing...yet the winner 3kgs?

And the 18 months gap...nothing...17 months 30 days 3 kgs??

Could you address that too...thanks

While you're there...a Black Type 3yo race at HQ has the astonishing race conditions of each win receiving 1 kgs...So a G1 nose placing receives nothing...but a mid weak race at Te Amuta 1Kg?

How is that even allowed to be Black type?

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25 minutes ago, Thomass said:

Have you got the 7 handy for a cutnpaste?

So no inequity?

A neddy beaten a nose gets nothing...yet the winner 3kgs?

And the 18 months gap...nothing...17 months 30 days 3 kgs??

Could you address that too...thanks

While you're there...a Black Type 3yo race at HQ has the astonishing race conditions of each win receiving 1 kgs...So a G1 nose placing receives nothing...but a mid weak race at Te Amuta 1Kg?

How is that even allowed to be Black 

So you have started a topic, reiterated your dislike for the conditions and are now asking me to tell you what those conditions are? Do you not know what it is you dont like so much??

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42 minutes ago, Sandpiper said:

So you have started a topic, reiterated your dislike for the conditions and are now asking me to tell you what those conditions are? Do you not know what it is you dont like so much??

NZTR sent them to me a few years back...misplaced them but got a general idea...

Ok, can you just send me the link so I can view them again then...ffs

I definitely know the ridiculous inequities as pointed out...

..and you're ok with that?

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Even you know this is an accepted anomaly....requested by trainers who were wanting opportunities for maiden winners in Black Type events

Only you could compare the two

The UNACCEPTABLE anomaly is CONCENSUS losing by a neck...receiving no penalty..

...and the winner 3 kgs...

That consigns SW&F All P's to the Junk Bond 'Black Type' category...

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19 minutes ago, Thomass said:

Ya think?

Do handicaps have a cut off point of 18 months then nothing for 17 months 31days?

It's relatively trivial. It's a poor form of handicapping instead of just using WFA. They might be crap, but they aren't as bad as NZ handicaps. And you endorse black type handicap racing.

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