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Which is what was in the DIA options report. Regulatory-Impact-Statement-Protecting-TAB-NZs-from-offshore-online-betting-to-ensure-a-sustainable-racing-industry.pdf
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Duplicitous, good word, I can see why you used it
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Vet Council wants to cancel Leo Molloy!
Chief Stipe replied to Chief Stipe's topic in Galloping Chat
Sure Leo was difficult to work with at times (not often) but he was never duplitious and you were either in his good books or not and he made that really clear. Very intelligent as well and at times downright amusing. I actually got more grief from third parties that he had riled than him. I'm not sticking up for him per se but what I disagree with what the Vet Council are doing. I liken it to the case Kevin Morton had with the RIB and Purcell. A step too far. -
Definitely agree with rotation to allow track renovation. The right sort of guidance,leadership, call it what you will, could have facilitated a more desirable outcome than what we have now.
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I'm surprised you stick up for him after all the shyte he and his Dog mate gave you on the Dog channel, when you were running it. The guy used to dish it out in a very unsavory manner and now he is getting it back, rightly or wrongly, who gives a flying F
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Oops. That's a typo. Good catch. I have ~$4m.
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They are promoting the punting on NZ greyhounds and so it is pretty ironic when they are going to be closed down in 7 or 8 months!
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@curious where did you derive the $13m in POCC lost income from?
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No doubt the threat of closure has produced ill feeling. However I think to call the proposed closure decisions arbitray is not correct. There was some rationale behind the proposals. Whether or not you agreed or disagreed is another matter that probably hasn't been handled that well. When the majority of tracks are not profitable enough to maintain their core infrastructure then the selection criteria must consider closing those that have no opportunity to be profitable. That is the key or rather it was. Clubs needed to see the writing on the wall and work together to make racing profitable either by other forms of revenue of cutting and sharing costs. Unfortunately what could have been a planned transition is now a crisis and may involve scorched earth. About 2 to 4 years ago my opinion was that we needed all the tracks to ensure a smooth transition and or the ability to rotate racedays to allow periodic track rehabilitation. However that approach doesn't fit with the Club mentality.
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Brotha Keny (Mo Town) parlayed a recent stakes victory into a record-sized payday for his connections on Wednesday during the Inglis Digital USA December sale with his $550,000 hammer price being the highest in the online auction platform's history and propelling a top overall gross of $869,250, the company said in a press release late on Wednesday. The 3-year-old gelding sold to Meah/Lloyd Bloodstock, as agent for Michael and Jules Iavarone, TTC Stables and Morplay Racing. Brotha Keny entered the December sale off a victory in the Zia Park Derby just eight days earlier, swinging wide and charging down the stretch to win by a half-length for trainer William Morey and owners Lance and Steve Kinross. “This is the type of horse you dream of owning, and they don't show up on the open market very often, so fair play goes out to Inglis Digital USA for recruiting him,” David Meah said. “He's been a model of consistency this year ever since he got back on the dirt. Numbers don't lie, and his are trending in a very positive direction.” Over the summer, Brotha Keny won the Bourbon Flight Stakes at Churchill Downs Sept. 20, and finished in-the-money in the GIII Indiana Derby and GIII West Virginia Derby. In total, he has won four of 13 starts and earned $499,528. “His last three races have been huge performances, even the loss at Keeneland in an allowance was a big run,” Meah added. “Then, he came back to win the Zia Park Derby with a dominant performance. He's only three, and has an entire career ahead of him. We are all thrilled, especially Jose D'Angelo, who will be the man taking over the training of him now.” Bred in Kentucky by Terrazas Thoroughbreds, Brotha Keny is out of the placed Northern Afleet mare Raramuri Princess, whose nine foals are all winners, also including stakes winner Concealed Carry (Competitive Edge). Eastern Sand (Line in the Sand), a Grade III winner, can be found in his extended family. Paramount Sales consigned Brotha Kenny, as agent, and he was made available for inspection at Morey's barn at Turfway Park. “It's great when a plan comes together,” said Paddy Campion of Paramount Sales. “Mr. Kinross and I spoke before the Zia Park Derby about Brotha Keny as a sales prospect. A few days later the horse kept up his side of the bargain, winning that race and now today in the sales ring. The timing could not have been better. Inglis made the process an easy one when there were many last-minute details to sort out. “Kudos to Bill Morey, who managed the horses's career masterfully,” he said. “He was bought by a great judge in David Meah, and we wish the best of luck to Mike, Jules, TTC Stables, and Morplay Racing.” Wednesday's highest-priced broodmare was Sea Rocket, who sold to Tropical Racing for $65,000. Dornoch | Sara Gordon The 4-year-old daughter of Into Mischief is a half-sister to recently-retired MGSW Royal Spa (Violence), and she hails from the family of GISW Sippican Harbor (Orb) and Japanese multiple stakes winner Awesome Result (Justify). She was offered carrying a foal from the debut crop of GI Belmont Stakes hero Dornoch (Good Magic). Sea Rocket was offered by Norrevale Farm, and she made available for inspection at the operation's Lexington, Kentucky, base. In total, Wednesday's auction finished with 48 horses sold and that record gross of $869,250. With the largest catalogue ever, offerings were made available locally to buyers and sellers, and inspection sites included Arkansas, California, Indiana, Kentucky, Maryland, New York, Oklahoma and Pennsylvania. Inglis Digital USA continued to attract a diverse selection of customers, with 40 different buyers on the horses that changed hands Wednesday. “What a great way to end the year, with a record sale for Inglis Digital USA,” said Inglis Digital USA CEO Kyle Wilson. “We've grown a lot this year, and we owe it all to our customers. We appreciate everyone who did business with us in 2025.” Offerings that finished under their reserves on Wednesday are still available to purchase on the Inglis Digital USA website. Visit the site's catalogue page and click on “make an offer” next to the available horses. Entries are now open for the Inglis Digital USA 2026 February sale, and they will be taken through Monday, Jan. 26. The catalogue will be released on Friday, Jan. 30, and bidding will close on Wednesday, Feb. 4. Click here to enter a horse for the January sale, register as a bidder or make a bid on an RNA horse from the December sale. The post Stakes Winner Brotha Keny Brings Record Price At Inglis Digital USA December Sale appeared first on TDN | Thoroughbred Daily News | Horse Racing News, Results and Video | Thoroughbred Breeding and Auctions. View the full article
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Technically, probably correct. But the threat of arbitrary closure has produced enormous ill feeling. As said by a former very astute poster, the only reason to close a track is an economic one. If people dont want to come and horses dont get nominated, then we'll put up the white flag. The much maligned Purcell said, in my hearing, I'm not in favour of forced closure of tracks, but we will offer support and work with any club which chooses to race at another venue. That was the way to go about the issue IMO.
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Yes the country needs Kumara.
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Correct. Which means there are too many racecourses for the amount of revenue generated.
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Some facts please.
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Well there you go all your assumptions are incorrect. Seems you contradict yourself often. I gather you must still be on the TA email list or is it part of your weekly reading list?
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Vet Council wants to cancel Leo Molloy!
Chief Stipe replied to Chief Stipe's topic in Galloping Chat
Really and you think AI algorithms aren't biased? Regardless of what idealology you think the Free Speech Union follows don't you think they have a point in this instance? -
Thousands of under 35's sign up to Thoroughbred Racing!
Chief Stipe posted a topic in Galloping Chat
How three brothers are attracting thousands of under 35s to racing Cold Brew in action for the Hay Brothers and Alpha Blokes. Picture: Getty Imageshttps://bitofayarn.com By Jett Hatton 02:38pm • 03 December 2025 0https://bitofayarn.com Capturing the younger generation is something the racing world in Australia has struggled with for years, but a group of brothers are revolutionising the game. Cameron, Tom and Michael Hay are all 30 or younger and have teamed up with two of the biggest podcasts in the country – Alpha Blokes Podcast and Hello Sport – to bring horse ownership to their communities. On Spotify charts, Alpha Blokes are the fourth best comedy podcast in the country while Hello Sport are at third in sport. The brothers' business, MustR Racing, originally started out as a traditional syndication but the trio quickly discovered the reach and demand of the respective communities was perfect for micro shares. "We got in touch with Alpha Blokes about buying a horse called Yabby Pump and we'd only done that with conventional syndication," Cameron Hay said.https://bitofayarn.com "About 11,000 people tried to buy in but only 50 could get a share. "We then bought Cold Brew and switched to micro shares and there was so much demand, it broke our computer system for three hours. "About 30,000 people were trying to get in on the horse and it blew our minds.https://bitofayarn.com "It just shows the reach these podcasting communities have and it brings so much of the younger generation into racing that previously wouldn't have any chance of affording it. "It works with these podcasting communities because they're looking to engage their audience and they're looking for something to create content with throughout a few years, so it's been a big hit. "The big thing was trying to bridge the gap between people that love a punt on the weekend but can't afford to buy a horse." The connection with Hello Sport was a flow-on effect from the success with Alpha Blokes and the two made the trip across the ditch to the Ready To Run Sale in New Zealand.https://bitofayarn.com In partnership with Richard and Will Freedman, they secured a Derryn x Mifflin gelding and micro shares in the galloper are set to be up for sale shortly. Hay said the selection of the Freedman stable was a calculated one, with Will Freedman the perfect match for the younger racing audience. Cold Brew. Picture: Bradley Photoshttps://bitofayarn.com "He just gets it," Hay said. "He's young himself, he's very charismatic and he loves to have a good time, so it's just a perfect fit. "You've got your trainer there who is honest and trains your horse through the week but then on the other end, he's someone you can have a beer and a party trackside with. "I'm not sure many other trainers would be able to appeal to that audience like Will does. "Hello Sport reached out to us after seeing what we did with the Alpha Blokes and we recently went over the New Zealand at the Ready To Run sale and bought one." The Hay brothers also run race day events with hundreds of owners and are set to host one this Sunday at Rosehill with Yabby Pump set to go around. Hay admitted there's been a few hiccups in preparation for the latest event after the meeting got shifted to Sunday and their stable getting downgraded from two to one.https://bitofayarn.com "Yabby Pump is racing on Sunday and we were supposed to have Cold Brew there as well, but unfortunately, he pulled up a bit sore on Tuesday morning. "Getting moved to Sunday is tricky with most of the owners flying down from Queensland, but we still expect it to be a cracking day out." Read all news by Jett Hatton -
Jokestar May Deliver Punchline in Valedictory
Wandering Eyes posted a topic in The Rest of the World
Jokestar, much improved this year as a 4-year-old, battles Tosen Wish and seven others in the CA$150,000 Valedictory Stakes (G3) Dec. 6. Dresden Row will not contest this lengthy 1 1/2-mile race.View the full article -
At a time when 2-year-olds are focusing on the preps for the Kentucky Derby (G1) and Kentucky Oaks (G1), the 5-year-old Bishops Bay is facing a prep of his own. View the full article
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7th-FG, $55k, Alw (N2L)/OC ($125k), 2yo, f, 6f, 4:45 p.m. ET PAVING (Gun Runner) was no better than an 8-1 chance when unveiled over this distance at Ellis Park Aug. 23, but she belied her inexperience with a very professional effort, coming away to score by 2 1/2 lengths. Among the vanquished that day was Sister Troienne (Munnings), who has since rattled off three straight, including the Nov. 27 Wait a While Stakes as the odds-on favorite. The filly's stakes-winning dam Point System (Broken Vow) is a daughter of GSW & GISP Brownie Points (Forest Wildcat), whose other notable produce includes MGSW Synchrony (Tapit) and GSW Chocolate Kisses (Candy Ride {Arg}). Larry Hirsch paid $420,000 for Point System in foal to Improbable at the Pin Oak Dispersal in 2021. Jose Ortiz has the call for trainer Tom Amoss. TJCIS PPs The post Impressive Maiden Winner Paving Resumes In Big Easy appeared first on TDN | Thoroughbred Daily News | Horse Racing News, Results and Video | Thoroughbred Breeding and Auctions. View the full article
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Vet Council wants to cancel Leo Molloy!
Murray Fish replied to Chief Stipe's topic in Galloping Chat
🤪 in the interest of transparency ! I will tell you! yes! And for the Record! re the Free Speech Union (how the fuck do those koonts name themselves a U...) is a reflection of a new nasty new form of rightwing politics that has entered NZ. A group that is attractive to simple minds! Trace their roots! -
Vet Council wants to cancel Leo Molloy!
Murray Fish replied to Chief Stipe's topic in Galloping Chat
please expand on 'the crap' bit? feel free to speak on it! -
Vet Council wants to cancel Leo Molloy!
Chief Stipe replied to Chief Stipe's topic in Galloping Chat
Where did you get all that crap from? Don't tell me it was AI generated! -
Vet Council wants to cancel Leo Molloy!
Murray Fish replied to Chief Stipe's topic in Galloping Chat
I could write a diatribe about the maggot that is Molloy! but instead, I asked Prof Deep Seek to share us a critique of the lead article and the actions of the said maggot! Here is a critique of the article and a polemic response. The analysis first summarizes the article's core arguments, then presents a forceful rebuttal that challenges both the writer's framing and Leo Molloy's actions. 📜 Summary of the Article's Core Arguments The article from the Free Speech Union argues that the Veterinary Council of New Zealand's censure of Leo Molloy represents a dangerous case of regulatory overreach and an attack on free speech. Its main points are: Overreach Beyond Professional Remit: The central claim is that the Veterinary Council has stepped outside its proper role. Molloy was punished for a personal speech act—breaching a court suppression order on a racing forum—that had no connection to veterinary practice, animal welfare, or client confidentiality. Punishment for "Off-Duty" Conduct: The article asserts that professional regulators should not police personal behavior, especially for someone who hasn't practiced in over a decade and was retired. It frames the Council's action as an attempt to retroactively "house-train" him for unrelated conduct. Inconsistent and Futile Enforcement: The writer highlights the inconsistency in enforcing the suppression order. International media published the name without consequence, and others in New Zealand were only warned, making Molloy the only person convicted and professionally sanctioned. This is presented as evidence that the action is vindictive rather than principled. Broader Chilling Effect: The case is framed as part of a dangerous trend where regulatory bodies punish professionals for their off-duty speech or beliefs. The article warns this turns professional bodies into "wardens of conformity" rather than "guardians of competence". ⚔️ A Polemic Response Part 1: Against the Writer – A Dishonest Champion of Chaos The writer of this article is not a defender of liberty but a merchant of grievance, wrapping a calculated agenda in the tattered flag of free speech. The piece is a masterclass in intellectual dishonesty, employing a strategy of omission and emotional manipulation worthy of the most cynical lobbyist. First, the writer deliberately obscures the gravity of Molloy’s crime. This was not a mere "personal speech" act akin to a spicy Facebook opinion. It was a deliberate, knowing, and repeated breach of a High Court suppression order during the most sensitive phase of a murder trial—while the jury was still deliberating. The article's cutesy puns about "neuter[ing] speech" and "the dog that did the barking" are a grotesque attempt to minimize an action that the courts—and the Veterinary Council—rightly identified as striking at the heart of judicial integrity. Second, the writer feigns confusion about the regulator's role with the disingenuous question, "which part of Leo’s conviction had anything to do with his profession?". Professions like veterinary science are granted the privilege of self-regulation in exchange for maintaining public trust. A criminal conviction for undermining the court system is not a private matter; it is a profound breach of the ethical compact any licensed professional holds with society. The Council’s lawyer was precisely correct: "Our professional obligations don't end when we close the office door". The writer’s argument would reduce professional ethics to a mere technical manual, applicable only during business hours—a ludicrous and dangerous proposition. Finally, the article is a transparent fundraising and recruitment tool for the Free Speech Union. It is no coincidence that the polemic seamlessly transitions into a promotion for their "professional memberships" for teachers, academics, and others. The writer is not analyzing a case; they are manufacturing a martyr to fuel a pre-existing campaign against any form of professional accountability that touches on expression. This is advocacy disguised as journalism, and it deserves to be called out as such. Part 2: Against Leo Molloy – The "Altruistic" Vigilante Leo Molloy’s attempt to paint his actions as "altruistic" is a staggering work of self-justification that insults the public’s intelligence and the memory of Grace Millane. Molloy claims he was motivated by "frustration and what I perceived to be injustice". This is the logic of a vigilante. He appointed himself judge, jury, and publisher, deciding that his personal fury overrode a court order designed to ensure Kempson’s right to a fair trial on subsequent charges. His statement that the murderer "needs a bullet" reveals the true, violent heat of his emotion, not cool altruism. He didn't start a reasoned debate about suppression laws; he doxxed an accused man to an online forum of 2,500 people during live legal proceedings. His plea that this has "no connection to veterinary practice" is equally hollow. The Veterinary Council’s mandate is to "maintain trust in veterinary professionals". Trustworthiness is not a divisible trait. A person who willfully sabotages a legal process because he disagrees with it demonstrates a fundamental lack of respect for the rule of law—a quality utterly incompatible with a profession entrusted with controlled drugs, animal welfare, and client privacy. Molloy was not a brave truth-teller oppressed by the system. He was a man who broke a clear law, was rightly convicted, and is now facing the entirely predictable professional consequences of that conviction. His status as a retired veterinarian is irrelevant; he chose to remain on the register, subject to its rules. His saga is not a parable about censorship, but a simple lesson in cause and effect: if you publicly and proudly break a serious law, you should not be surprised when your professional body takes a dim view of your fitness to belong to it. To sum up, the article cynically distorts a case of professional accountability into a free speech crisis, while Molloy cloaks his reckless disregard for the justice system in the mantle of public-spiritedness. Both positions deserve not just critique, but contempt. -
i always thought there was an irony in how the out the gate crews betting evolved.. The show was on a thursday,a traditional nz harness night. and we recognise,the out the gate crew was trying encourage greater interest from the casual observer of harness racing,those who may not have normally watched,with the intent of showing them they didn't need to spend much to have a bit of fun and entertainment and to spark some future interest in harness racing.. atl east that was what i think they have been trying to do. I think have been reasonably successful in achieving that as relates to the greyhounds. But ,through no fault of theirs,the out the gater crew had to deal with a cambridge harness product that even the avid harness fans,realised was the worst example of a nz harness betting product in nz then you add to that they used aaron whites selections. Now,as i said earlier,a white can tip ok at auckland,but at cambridge he kept tipping serial gallopers and horses driven that gave the impression either they werennt trying or that they just went back and followed them around like they would wait for a 6 horse field the following week where they may get a better draw. so,as i have pointed out in an earlier post,the out the gate team,soon realised this harness product is not what they should be betting on,as after all,it may not have been their money,but they wanted to make money for the people who had invested in their pools ,so they realised they needed to focus on the dogs and the dogs you could tell were trying each time and their selector,a mccook,seems to be a knowledgable tipster. so the irony was,the out the gate team tried to support the harness racing product more,i'm sure wanted to,but the cambridge harness product simply is not a great product to promote harness racing wagering and the out the gate team exposed that,which was not their fault.