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I don't think Reefton suggested that it did. No club does. You've gone off at a tangent to the topic. The point is that the wagering revenue generated by the likes of Reefton goes a lot further towards covering the cost to racing of providing their stakes than the likes of ATR does.

Well you've forgotten a shit load. Tell all the listeners why and hoe Reefton adds positive revenue to racing?

No problem at all for my bestie until he foolishly got himself restricted.

Listen halfwit. The ‘Yield’ facts clearly displayed in Curious’ table are that every dollar of industry money that goes into the stakes on those blood sucking big days gets far less of a ‘yield’ turnover wise than does the likes of Kumara Wairarapa or the other two Coast Clubs. I’d have forgotten more about ‘yield’ than you would ever know in ten lifetimes.

What the hell do you mean yield? That's exactly what's not there in sufficient quantum. There's stuff all other revenue. 90% comes from wagering revenue..

On the back of only two meetings that day as well.

agreed.Things aren;t going to get any better for the average person in nz. thats why Mr steele said that when things pick up,that will be reflected in increased turnovers on racing.. Things aren't going to pick up,thats just wishful thinking.But mr steele had to say that ,as it was his way of putting a positive spin on figures which weren't as positve as he had hoped. mr steele has a mind set where he believes its in his and the industries best interests that positivity is the priority,seemingly viewing it of greater importance than reality. He may have done well in leadership positions in the past , where he has been part of decision making which has produced good results.However he will find out in 18 months or so,that strategy will eventually implode if things aren't going as well as he has said they are. You mentioned on another thread gamma about we may have a govt change in november.I always think the result of elections are always predictable enough.And i can't see any change of govt at the next election. That won't happen.People just don't trust labour after the adern goverment,like they once did,even given so many more are struggling with the cost of living these days.

But that won't work. The reason is you are not considering the other sources of revenue at that time. You would make a brilliant Cost Accountant. Hint: Yield.

Will he not be trying to slime into the top job?

At the end if the day, there has to be some personal responsibility from all of us. If you are a poor punter do you seriously believe the TAB will restrict you? If you can afford to wager larger amounts then why is the TAB restricting these punters? Total hypocrisy! Anyone know did the big meeting that Winston wanted actually happen ? Never heard a thing??

i agree,i think a lot of people think that. I would also say matt peden will be gone as well . what i can't understand myself is the hrnz board. They seem happy with current policy.. if the finacial stabilty of the future of the industry is truly being eroded like many think,won't the hrnz board be judged very,very harshly. We will just have to wait andsee how it plays out. Its not that far away from being revealed. Also i think industry stakeholders can only blame themselves if things do take a turn for the worse. You can't help but note the big players and all the people in the media are continually selling the same positivity,all is well,everything is affordable,the industry is being well lead. But can you trust the media. I always use the example of mick guerin and the ATC. For several years,as the ATC finances collapsed,he ignored reporting on their true financial position,continuing to say that there was never a better time to get involved in northern harness racing,each year promoting there was never a better time for buying at north island sales ,always giving the impression auckland was doing well. For several years on here i started topics asking why guerin was silent and why he was selling a narrative that appeared misleading. So i won't be that long before its revealed whether current stakes and policies are sustainable and have been wise.Time will tell.

No. I wan't suggesting anything. If I were to in light of those figures, it might be that NZTR should pay stakes in more direct proportion to turnover, not keep throwing more and more money at the least sustainable meetings but I've been saying that for the last 20 years.

So you are suggesting that there should be more races at Kumara?

Jan-26 Date Club Stakes Combined T/O per $ Ranking Oncourse O/Course T/O Ranking Turnover of stakes Turnover per $ of Stakes 16/01/2026 Waikato TR 146520 1676200 11.44 2 50300 0.34 11 10/01/2026 Kumara 236625 2516800 10.64 3 342200 1.45 2 9/01/2026 Otaki 146520 1447600 9.88 4 61800 0.42 9 2/01/2026 Wairarapa 142450 1382800 9.71 5 336800 2.36 1 1/01/2026 Riverton 200875 1931200 9.61 6 106800 0.53 7 6/01/2026 Ruakaka 163390 1473700 9.02 7 180700 1.11 4 18/01/2026 Auckland TRI(Puke) 195625 1709000 8.74 8 26200 0.13 23 4/01/2026 Greymouth 172935 1464600 8.47 9 133300 0.77 5 7/01/2026 Reefton 175350 1270600 7.25 10 132400 0.76 6 14/01/2026 Canterbury Racing 199250 1434200 7.20 11 42200 0.21 17 19/01/2026 Whanganui 163170 1117100 6.85 12 49800 0.31 12 3/01/2026 Thames(Te Aroha) 147745 1006300 6.81 13 73600 0.50 8 10/01/2026 Wanganui JC 308250 2020600 6.56 14 54100 0.18 20 24/01/2026 Canterbury 448200 2813500 6.28 15 88200 0.20 18 8/01/2026 Tauranga 289975 1746600 6.02 16 59200 0.20 18 22/01/2026 Southland 150785 897900 5.95 17 19800 0.13 23 17/01/2026 Waikouaiti RC 366325 2135200 5.83 18 87400 0.24 15 11/01/2026 Auckland TRI 452575 2488100 5.50 19 100500 0.22 16 23/01/2026 Matamata 191875 830300 4.33 20 12300 0.06 25 24/01/2026 Taranaki 405325 1633100 4.03 21 108200 0.27 14 1/01/2026 Auckland TRI 1491275 5859400 3.93 22 454200 0.30 13 17/01/2026 Wellington RC 1233500 4182800 3.39 23 171100 0.14 22 3/01/2026 Wellington RC 1512575 4728500 3.13 24 231300 0.15 21 24/01/2026 Auckland TRI 4442500 6827900 1.54 25 1545100 0.35 10

for the good of the nation mate. Not many families are financially secure like you and I and BOAY folk. The more restrictions on the Gambling dollar the better off a lot more people will be. ONE in FIVE NZ families are effected by 'problem gambling' and hard times . Look after Them Mate ! help them out of that hole. The horses may have to race for less prizemoney eventually . but so be it !!! . Melton race tonight with some $4000 races. Our Albion races today are for $6,300 . It's just the way it is . AMAZINGLY for NZ , the ENTAIN mob came along and put up some dollars that has made NZ racing still very rich and Some of the best Racing on the Planet. First Class Effort by them and HRNZ to do this . Applause for that 😂 UNFORTUNATELY , for Nz trainers owners and drivers, Leap To Fame, Swayzee, Keayang Zahara, Arcee Phoenix, Gus, Kingman , Better Eclipse, Just Believe (and some other Placegetters too ) have completely MUGGED YOU of Hundreds f Thousands of those dollars the past 3 years . So a Bit like you blokes heading for the Soup Kitchen from BOAY in depression😋 , the Nz Trainers are packing it in as can't compete with this landslide victory. 🏆 Of course the cost of living effects turnover Brodie . Many, like my -self even, PAY their bills first and punt later. And not as much as previously as the trainers are failing to SUPPLY runners to Bet On , that are any good😂🤣💰 The Bright Side ? you still have the Top gun CARTER DALGETY ( and Kentuckiana) having a GO !! and bringing the double Auckland Cup Champion 'Republican Party' to Australia to try and Mug some Back !! give him strength.💪

for a perceived dangerous maneuver during the race! perhaps wasting involved?? split second decisions.. btw, also, the Kurow track like all the small tracks here in the deep south has its ups and downs and riders hardly haven ridden on the track...

I'll make a prediction. Mr. Steele will stick around, talking things up until just before the Entain deal runs out, then he will say what a wonderful job he has done and go back to Australia, to leave some other poor sods to handle the fallout from the house of cards he has help create.

No BGP this year i think

Don't worry. Exactly the same applies to NZTR, so we'll all be at the same soup kitchen.

Lol, Galah mustve been a politician at some stage? Really is that the best HRNZ can do, just a nothing interview ? Surely he should be able say how many mares had been bred so far without this other BS? Mentioned Taupo racing as a positive, but didnt mention the elephants in the room! said more punters effectively but the cost of living is affecting turnover?? Mr Steele it is not the cost of living that is affecting turnover any more than other times!! You allow the TAB Bookies to stop punters from wagering, you have allowed Entain/ TAB to make poor decisions in regards to several wagering decisions and Trackside production and yet you come out with this?? If they wanted turnover to be increased then it would be exceptionslly easy to do but they would rather restrict it and not encourage wagering! HRNZ and harness participants are going to get a rude awakening shortly, as too many in the industry are scared to speak up as they will be shown the door.

Was actually talking about HRNZ rather than Entain, but Entain only wanted the TAB for sports and online gambling and we can see that clearly. Not talking about HRNZ back in their hey day, it is the current way that they have been operating for the last decade! Yes harness racing is a great product not denying that, unfortunately the best of it bas been and dramatic change is close. Gamma, in the next year or so, I would be betting my last cent that you will be coming on BOAY and saying that yes Brodie you were totally on the money. No way on earth can a business be run the way it has been over the past few years and succeed!!!!! I repeat that the only way the can pay the current level of stakes is thru the hundreds of millions that they have been gifted, when that dries up???????

Winner of the 2024 GI Churchill Downs Stakes and now a young stallion at Three Chimneys, Gun Pilot (Gun Runner–Bush Pilot, by Smart Strike) was recently represented by his first foal, a colt. Bred by Tommy Wente's St. Simon Place in Lexington, the bay colt is out of the winning mare Just Life (Honor Code), a half-sister to GSP Electability (Quality Road) from the extended family of GISW and sire Lion Heart. “He's a big colt with a lot of bone,” said Wente of the new arrival. “The first thing that struck me was how much he looked like his sire–big and strong. I bred four mares to him last year, and when they come out looking like this, you've got to go back.” A millionaire and Three Chimneys homebred, Gun Pilot won five races and placed in another five, including the GI Forego Stakes. He will stand the 2026 season at Three Chimneys for $12,500. “Gun Pilot is very much like Gun Runner–scopey, strong, and a great mover but with a bit more size and substance than his sire,” said Three Chimneys Director of Stallion Nominations Rebecca Nicholson. “Progeny by sons of Gun Runner have been in high demand, and with Gun Pilot entering his second year at stud, he represents a great opportunity for breeders to access this highly sought-after sire line.” The post First Foal is a Colt for Grade I Winner Gun Pilot appeared first on TDN | Thoroughbred Daily News | Horse Racing News, Results and Video | Thoroughbred Breeding and Auctions. View the full article

the NZ Government probably only has 9 months to go?😉 . with election called NOV by Luxon. so that is more the problem for them . The Australian opposition Coalition party just imploded the past 2 weeks with Nationals and Liberals ripping themselves apart and not getting on at all. with each other or internally . they have been swept aside since nearly taking the country to ruin in Covid and being absolute landslide polled against the past 2 elections 2022 and last May. . NZ might do better too? , and be looking for a 'Non - Coalition' government to get back on track ?. Might even help harness racing get back on track if getting so dire there that no one is competing much anymore ? . Labor government just bailed Victoria out of the 'hole' it was in . (in the short term anyway) maybe they can help patch up NZ harness a bit. Help with the ATC debt and that ? ENTAIN are a hugely successful business Brodie. HRNZ have been hugely successful for near/over a century too, and produced a world class product. That the Aussies are currently plundering the past 3 years as your Top Combatants (like Mark Purdon and Barry Purdon) near retirement and their numbers dwindle.

Cuts are inevitable the way they are blowing the money from Entain! .The truth of the matter is that Entain being brought in as the White Knight to save racing in NZ wouldve been ok if the industry hadve used the money wisely, and not like a kid in a lolly shop!! Can not talk about the gallops as I not interested in them but I have yet to meet a single person that has confidence in the ones making the decisions! nothing personal but they have acted extremely irresponsibly with industry money and not their own! All the time being paid big salaries and ultimately they will be down the road. Does anyone actually believe that the ones making these decisions have ever had any success running a business, as that is what harness racing is?

harnesslink haa an article regarding mr steeles answers to questions posed by b stewart an harnesslink. maybe its an annual thing. anyways,whenever i read what mr steele says,and this latest is another example,i have to admire his abilty to not answer questions,but in a way that still comes across as sounding positive. mr steele ability to word answers in the way he does, is quite skillful. for example, when asked if number of mares being bred the past season were up,he said .."a survey showed they were going in the right direction...conversations with studmasters were generally positive....we remain optimistic we will deliver on a much improved result on the prior year... I mean,a simple yes or no would have been better. Wouldn't hrnz have enough information by now to just give the numbers. personally i think he gave the answer in the final comment..optimistic for a better result than last year. My guess that means about the same or only just above last year,which of course had been a really bad year. anyways,that man sure knows how put a good spin on whatever he wants to.