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Ka Ying Rising (NZ) (Shamexpress) has been thrust into unknown territory after drawing barrier one for the first time in his career as he attempts to defend his HK$28 million G1 LONGINES Hong Kong Sprint (1200m) title at Sha Tin on Sunday (14 December). Conceding it was not ideal to draw the inside barrier in the 13-horse field, trainer David Hayes said the world’s highest-rated sprinter simply had to jump fast and either take a sit or lead if Zac Purton is unhappy with the pace. “So, I think Zac will be very happy,” Hayes said. “It’s more important what Zac thinks this time from the barrier because he has to do the job. I will leave it to him. “The horse jumps fast and he puts him in a spot, and then hopefully he gets a trouble-free run. You can get blocked in from barrier one. I don’t think he will. If he jumps fast, he can have a nice easy run to the home turn.” Hayes said the only complication that could arise is if Ka Ying Rising jumps slowly, which he has rarely done. “That would be the only concern but lately he is so fast out of the gates in his first 100 metres he gets himself in a very comfortable position,” Hayes said. Satono Reve, who will jump from barrier four under Ryan Moore, and Helios Express, who has Hugh Bowman aboard from barrier six, are likely to present the biggest challenges to Ka Ying Rising, who is chasing a 16th consecutive win. James McDonald’s mount, Fast Network (NZ) (Wrote), has drawn barrier three, while Wunderbar (Rich Enuff), the only horse to have twice finished in front of Ka Ying Rising, is in barrier two for Craig Williams. Ka Ying Rising has drawn barrier two twice for a nose second and a victory. But Hayes, whose other runner, Tomodachi Kokoroe (Written Tycoon), drew barrier seven, expects only a couple of horses to push forward from the jump. After already lowering the Sha Tin 1200m record twice, Zac Purton has warned not to expect Ka Ying Rising to again better his record of 1m 07.20s on Sunday. Purton believes it will be a typical Hong Kong sprint run at a fast tempo, and said the faster, the better; but he doesn’t expect records to tumble. “I’m not thinking it is going to be a slowly-run race, but do I think they are going to break the track records as well? No, I don’t,” Purton said. “The winter grass has come through, it’s a bit softer and the track is a bit thicker, and no doubt they’ll put a little bit more water on the track as well. They usually do for this meeting, so I don’t think a track record is going to be seen, but as long we win the race and tick it off and move on to the next one …” After winning the world’s richest race on turf – the AU$20 million (approx. HK$101 million) G1 The Everest (1200m) in Sydney, Australia in October – Ka Ying Rising returned to Hong Kong to win the G2 BOCHK Private Banking Jockey Club Sprint (1200m) at Sha Tin on 23 November. “He went to the races and probably put up his career-best performance last start and got in a lovely rhythm in a fast-run race. He loves fast-run races and he put them away. It was great to see and he has trained on well since, and I’m really looking forward to Sunday,” Purton said. Purton said Ka Ying Rising’s asset was his great speed from the gate, which allowed him to put him up on the pace, and once in stride, he felt like a Rolls-Royce. “He loves high-pressure races,” Purton said. “He doesn’t like it when they go slow. And when they do go slow, it allows a lot of those other horses to be in touch with and sprint with him. Whereas, when he is out there running along, it breaks their hearts. “He is a unique horse in the way he can absorb pressure in such an easy way. A lot of other horses are just struggling to keep up with just that pace in the mid-stages and they can’t find anything off that and are gassed trying to keep up.” Sunday’s (14 December) 10-race fixture at Sha Tin starts at 12.25pm with the Class 4 Fairy King Prawn Handicap (1400m). View the full article

Thank you Spatchcock. Appreciate that. Tis my right to point out the error of their ways! Treat all punters equally and I will not need to point it out. When some punters are restricted to pathetically low amounts and the TAB employees are treated with total favouritism and are allowed to wager and win unlimited amounts, it needs to be discussed. Why is it right to be treating punters differently? Spatchcock do you really believe that they are operating ethically, and would other businesses get away with it?

A couple of Japan’s Longines Hong Kong International Races contenders have been given glowing report cards from Thursday’s trackwork ahead of their intended targets on Sunday’s blockbuster card at Sha Tin. This year’s Group One Hong Kong Vase (2,400m) looks a particularly wide open affair and Urban Chic, who is one of the leading contenders for trainer Ryo Takei, was given a strong word by his handler. Winner of the Group One Kikuka Sho (3,000m) at Kyoto earlier this year, he was last seen...View the full article

He might have to adopt 10 greyhounds come the end of July next year.

For the love of God, Brodster, give it a rest. You whinge worse than 10 children.

i'd never heard of the ai thing doing the pricing,but i've just googled what you said and am surprised just how common it already is becomming around the world and how common it is for people to use ai programmes to do their betting.. i suppose its a bit like what the tab already does with its algorythms on certain peoples accounts.They have for a few years now been immediately reducing the odds of any runner that receives support from punters who are identified as winning punters.i can imagine it wouldn't be hard for the tab to identify all the winning punters,have all the betting information from those peoples accounts input into some sort of programme and the odds be set accordingly from there. Really thats why they have tried to push everyone into betting over the internet,so as to identify the winning punters ,so the tab can reduce the amounts that they will potentially lose. its a bit like all those punters who have computer programmes which trigger betting for them on the win movers. thats been around for some time. People that don't follow racing,but are computer smart,making their living out of having a computer programme which analyses win movers and how the computer would make the decisions of when to bet. Theres was lots of people who use betfair that seem to be doing that and i'm sure it would be happening in australasia,especially australia. i also had a theory that the best way to make money was simply identify who the winning punters are,hack into their accounts and have a computer programme replicate their betting. SImple as,your in the money. Actually when i was making money not that many years ago i actually complained to the tab that i believed that was what someone was doing. There was a consistent pattern of every horse i backed dropping in price and i had concluded it had to be that.I actually complained to the tab and asked them to investigate whether anyone else was accessing my account other than me,but they just seemed to think i was paranoid,but thats i believed.. If i was smart in how to hack and a little dishonest,thats what i would do.Simple as.. anyways,back to the ai thing. I can imagine what nowornever says about having an advantage of betting as soon as the markets come out,but of course not many can be bothered to do that,i never ould be bothered when i used to bet, even though i knew that was a way of increasing profit.I suppose those that do will make a bit of more money and those who have the same selections ,but bet after the prices have dropped will win a bit less. thats why the whales are such dumb bets,Of course people are going to say,well he turns a profit,because he would based on getting on early,but because he ruins the odds with his early bets,those that follow are never going to make much.Then again,maybe they are happy almost breaking even. so it sounds like its not going to be ai that will make it harder for punters to make money from racing,its the fact ai will use the information they gain from winning punters that will give ai the winning edge.

Opened way over the odds. If the horse was racing at Manawatu it would have been sub $5.00. Bookies simply got it wrong like they do a lot of the time these days. Take those opportunities while you can. A few of the Aussie bookmakers are using AI now for their Aussie harness opening prices, I got told by someone working at one of the main ones. Not long before it happens here. They open them at any old price but don't let anyone on for any big amounts until there is liquidity in the pools and by that time the market has sorted it self into something close to true odds. Yes there will be overs on many runners early but the catch is you cant get much on at those prices. I am picking 3-6 months before AI pricing is introduced here.

Starting Pool $37,006 from customers & $5000 Betcha Bonus Cash Payout 45,338 They didn't say if A Brodie was among the benefactors!

The first question was posed over a year ago Pretty substandard Who won the 1997 NZ Derby ChatGPT said: The 1997 New Zealand Derby, a horse racing event, was won by a horse named Summer Knight. The New Zealand Derby is a prestigious horse race held annually at Ellerslie Racecourse in Auckland, New Zealand. Keep in mind that my information is accurate up to January 2022, and I recommend checking more recent sources for any updates or changes. You said: Who won the 1997 NZ Derby (asked just now) ChatGPT said: The winner of the 1997 New Zealand Derby (run on 26 December 1997) was Marlow. If you’d like, I can also give you the placegetters or info about the horse and connections. You said: Is that the thoroughbred Derby ChatGPT said: Yes — the New Zealand Derby is a Thoroughbred classic race. To clarify: The 1997 New Zealand Thoroughbred Derby at Ellerslie was won by Marlow. This is the Group 1 race for 3-year-old Thoroughbreds run each December. If you want, I can also tell you the placegetters, the trainer, jockey, or race details. You said: Yes ChatGPT said: Great — here are the 1997 New Zealand Thoroughbred Derby details: 🏆 Winner: Marlow 🎓 Placegetters: 1st: Marlow 2nd: Love de Game 3rd: So Casual 📍 Race Details: Date: 26 December 1997 Venue: Ellerslie Racecourse Race: Group 1 NZ Derby (2400m) for 3-year-olds 👤 Connections: Trainer: Mark Walker Jockey: Opie Bosson If you want, I can also give you details about any other Derby year or the horses involved. You said: No it was Zonda ChatGPT said: You're absolutely right — the 1997 New Zealand Derby was won by Zonda. Here are the correct details: 🏆 1997 New Zealand Derby (Thoroughbred) Winner: Zonda Jockey: Lance O’Sullivan Trainer: Dave & Paul O’Sullivan Date: 26 December 1997 Venue: Ellerslie Racecourse Zonda was a highly regarded son of Zabeel, and his Derby win is still remembered as one of the most impressive of the era. Thanks for the correction — and if you'd like info on any other Derby or horse, just let me know!

Well at the moment it falls well short of accurately collecting facts, so the addition of narrative is essentially a waste of time. I have found it useful at collecting a range of references to a subject I might be looking at.

I think AI from a cost benefit perspective is grossly over valued. The processing power required to add a narrative to a collection facts is literally a considerable waste of scarce energy. If the share market bubble which AI is blowing bigger bursts then we won't be worried about racing horses.

I’m sure if you walked into Rangiora TAB and danced the way you do when the out the gate boys win then they would.

Not for me either…. but it seems some like it. Pool just over 32k… Betcha give them $5k bonus bets🤔. Didnt hear end result, but somebody mentioned 25% profit tonight

Connections of local superstars Ka Ying Rising and Romantic Warrior walked away from the Sha Tin parade ring happy after the pair drew inside gates for Sunday’s Longines Hong Kong International Races. While it was never going to matter too much which gate Romantic Warrior landed for the seven-runner Group One Hong Kong Cup, barrier two was just about perfect for the champion and should ensure him a smooth passage around the first bend from the tricky Sha Tin 2,000m start. Trainer David Hayes was...View the full article

I think it is best to keep monitoring how accurate it is. We have seen with this thread, it was full of mistakes, therefore that puts a question mark over the total accuracy of the reply. I can recall using AI over a year ago and it was poor. Huey gave you a like, is that a first

I see a Cambridge Stud stallion is leading the second season sires in Australia/New Zealand. The NZ Breeding is in good heart.

You've become tedious.

LMAO you have no idea, once again just a blinkered fanboy comment that you cannot back up!

Andrea Atzeni is eager to make the most of his best opportunity in a Group One race in Hong Kong when he rides leading Hong Kong Vase (2,400m) contender Giavellotto on Sunday. Oisin Murphy was in the saddle for Giavellotto’s dominant victory in the Vase at Sha Tin 12 months ago, but his commitment to ride Eydon for owner-breeder Prince Faisal paved the way for Atzeni to ride Giavellotto on Sunday. Atzeni has also ridden plenty for Giavellotto’s trainer Marco Botti and boasts a good record on the...View the full article

There's no point discussing it with you. You have a closed mind rotten with negativity.

Wonder if I walked into the TAB and asked them for some BONUS CASH, BONUUS BETS AND BOOSTED ODDS, would they say Yes??? They really should , as this is what “ Out THE GATE” gets from Betcha! Thats right, keep forgetting, they are treated differently to other punters! Just an absolute joke the way they are running this OTG!!!

Sunshine Coast trainer Liam Birchley knows what it takes to win the Listed TAB Karaka Millions 2YO (1200m) having trained two previous winners, and the Queensland conditioner will again be targeting the Ellerslie feature. Birchley prepared Hardline to win in 2015 and Sister Havana in 2010, while Sarge In Charge finished second for the stable in 2009. Two-year-old filly Dream Roca is being readied for the January 24 contest, with the daughter of El Roca set to line up over 1000m at Eagle Farm this weekend. Runner up to Lady Of Five on debut over 1000m in October, the Gerry Harvey-bred Dream Roca is already 11th in order of Entry for the juvenile race restricted to New Zealand Bloodstock graduates. Dream Roca as a yearling Photo: supplied “She is on track to head to Ellerslie for the Karaka Millions and she will probably have another run after this,” Birchley said. “She shaped well at her first start but the fence was really hot that day and the winner drew the rails and we didn’t. She didn’t shirk her task and she was coming again at the line.” By Fastnet Rock’s Randwick Guineas (Gr.1, 1600m) runner-up El Roca, Dream Roca was purchased by Birchley for $75,000 from the Westbury Stud draft at this year’s Karaka Yearling Sales. The filly is out of the five-win Redwood mare Petrachor. “She is a filly that is bred to get further even though she doesn’t give me that feel,” Birchley said. “She is bred to run a mile plus, which is good going forward, because the Karaka 3YO race is over a mile. “She is in good shape and she has drawn well so I expect her to race well on Saturday.” Ben Thompson will again partner Dream Roca who is a $5.50 third elect behind the Tony and Calvin McEvoy-trained One Day At A Time ($2.45) and the well-backed Chris and Corey Munce-trained Star Of Jamaica ($3.20). View the full article

New Zealand racing’s hottest property, Well Written, is locked in for the $4m The NZB Kiwi, after connections of the unbeaten filly signed up for the TAB slot, held by Entain New Zealand. The daughter of Written Tycoon has won all three of her career starts in dominant fashion, topped off by her Group 1 1000 Guineas victory at Riccarton last month. The Cambridge-based filly will now be set for the richest 3-year-old race in the Southern Hemisphere on 7 March at Ellerslie, with lead-up runs planned on Boxing Day and in the TAB Karaka Millions 3YO in January, before The NZB Kiwi. Entain Australia and New Zealand CEO Andrew Vouris was thrilled that Well Written’s connections had chosen the TAB slot for her bid to become the winner of the second running of The NZB Kiwi. “Well Written has already stamped herself as a brilliant talent and has gained a following on both sides of the Tasman,” Vouris said. “Through our broadcasting, content and wagering teams, we can’t wait to introduce her to an even bigger audience across Australasia, with an incredibly bright future ahead of her. Well Written’s trainer Stephen Marsh said the Entain team had built a comprehensive plan to elevate the interest around the race, and around Well Written. “Entain really impressed us with the scope of what they can bring to the partnership, and as someone who grew up in the New Zealand racing industry, it feels right to link up with the iconic TAB brand for this massive race,” Marsh said. “Well Written has already taken her band of supporters on an amazing journey, and we’re sure it will go to the next level with Entain’s support.” Major Australian breeding operation Yulong Investments purchased 50% of Well Written prior to her 1000 Guineas win. Other horses to wear the Yulong colours include dual Cox Plate winner Via Sistina and four-time Group 1-winning mare Treasurethe Moment. Yulong Investment’s Racing Manager Troy Stephens said it is incredibly exciting for Yulong to be involved in the 2026 edition of The NZB Kiwi. “It is a race that has captured the attention of the New Zealand industry, so to be involved with a filly of Well Written’s calibre to represent Yulong is a great thrill for us,” Stephens said. “We look forward to working alongside the Entain team and Marsh Racing in the lead-up to the race. New Zealand has such a rich racing history, and we are proud to now be part of that landscape — it is a very exciting time for Yulong.” As the winner of the Group 1 Barneswood Farm 53rd 1000 Guineas, Well Written is eligible for a share of the $1 million Bonus Pool up for grabs for horses that place in the top three in the NZB Kiwi. View the full article

Emerging stayer Mollify looks to have another gilt-edged opportunity to further her record on Friday and progress toward more lucrative middle-distance assignments. The Cambridge Stud-bred and owned daughter of So You Think has thrived in a more rural environment since returning from Australia and promises another bold showing in The Duncan Dental Tauranga Twilight Cup (2100m). Mollify can kick-start a potentially lucrative weekend for the farm and private trainer Lance Noble with Jaarffi, Frostfair and Daring Dame in action at Te Rapa on Saturday. She has won two of her last three starts, with a placing in between times, and impressed most recently at Pukekohe where she successfully debuted over ground. “It looks the perfect race for her, she’s hit her straps and it was a very good win last time, so it fits in nicely for her,” Noble said. “After this, she can either go to the Dunstan Stayers’ (2400m) or we may even consider the Queen Elizabeth (Gr.3, 2400m) on New Year’s Day.” Mollify was previously in Victoria with Peter Moody and Katherine Coleman, and from a handful of appearances broke her maiden at Cranbourne and was twice placed. “She came back at the end of her three-year-old career, Peter said she might not measure up to black-type races over there, but he didn’t give her too many starts,” Noble said. “She has come home and developed and with the extra six months she has physically matured, and the farm environment here definitely helps mares. “It’s nice and relaxing for them and haven’t got the stress of a big training centre with a lot going on. I’m not saying I’ve improved the horse but rather benefitted from the extra time she’s been given and Peter hadn’t over-raced her.” Retained jockey Warren Kennedy will partner Mollify and her three stablemates at Te Rapa. Jaarffi will chase a breakthrough victory there in the Gr.2 Cal Isuzu Stakes (1600m) after luckless lead-up placings in the Gr.2 Auckland Thoroughbred Breeders’ Stakes (1400m) and Listed Legacy Lodge Sprint (1200m). The gifted Iffraaj mare has won four times up to a mile, and finished runner-up in the Gr.1 New Zealand Thoroughbred Breeders’ Stakes (1600m) and will be tested over further in the immediate future. “She’s been the bridesmaid a few times and been all around it, she’s really well and hopefully she won’t get into any traffic problems,” Noble said. “We’re going to roll the dice and then see if she can step up to 2000m in the Zabeel Classic (Gr.1), it’s obviously a race the stud would love to win again (after Snazzytavi).” Written Tycoon mare Frostfair will tackle the Gr.3 J Swap Sprint (1400m) after close-up finishes at Ellerslie and Tauranga. “She had a lot of form last season and looked like she’d get black type, but she’s taken a bit longer to come up and I’ve been happy with her last couple of runs,” Noble said. “While she is at the bottom of the handicap, we’ll have a crack at this one, and if she runs well we would consider going to the Rich Hill Mile (Gr.2, 1600m).” Daring Dame had no luck when unplaced last time out and the Almanzor four-year-old can turn her fortunes around in the Dunstan Horsefeeds Stayers’ Championship Qualifier (2200m). “She was coming up on the inside quite nicely when she got chopped out, I’m not saying she would have won, but she would have put herself right in the mix,” Noble said. “The gap was there before one on the outside closed it and Warren had to check, she had a lot more to give. “We’ve put a line through that and given a clear run on Saturday, we expect her to run very well.” View the full article

BTW . Anyone can enter this quiz 👍 . Not just Ranga as he will push for 'domination' if he gets a roll on.😂 See if you can head him off before he get's the whip cracking, and get some of the answers . 12 Great horses that we are looking for that are the Champions of New Zealand and Australia. clues above.