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Oh ok you know what horses think now?

I just had another look. If you go back well before she shied you will see her look away from the fence just before the distance marker on the rail.

She flanked her and when she thought she was going to do it again, she leapt out of the way before it happened. Good on her.

currently 4th fav in the All Stars Mile!!

Flew home in the KiwiB this time last year over 1500m. The 2nd horse in that race Evaporate has won two Grp 3 races in OZ since. 2 months earlier she won the KM over 1600m.

Are you serious Trackside. ???????.........that was a huge mistake you made today at Ellerslie. That woman from Oz you bought over from to do the on course interviews was, quite frankly, sensational, both in presentation and articulated diction. The other bloke you use, predictably, was a total dickhead, .............again. Trainers look like they bolt when they see him coming, and who can blame them. It's not a good look on one of our showcase days.

Number 3 Phillia, way over the odds at $15, will be where my money going EW. As for the Rose, positive is the jockey, negative is the distance, i know some on here say she is always battling on at finish, but i dont think she will run the 1600m too well today. Other negatives, firm track and draw, as well as i think it is only battling, which is why i suggest it will be retired soon and sent to stallion. There you go, my views before the race… Dont Be a fence Sitter…

But that's nothing new. It has been happening for as long as I can remember. We got good money selling horses to the USA in the 70's. Then again I doubt any average owner would sell a really good horse if they knew it was good.

$4.60 now. One thing I have noticed that will work against her is the rail is out 6m and nothing is coming off the pace at them moment. Might upset Tentryris as well in the Newmarket as the outside does look off.

Have a look at the video, was not in reaction to a whip strike. Collet used the whip twice 20-30 m before she shied

You're irrelevant @Huey and anyone sane who reads your posts knows you have a chip on both shoulders. Get over whatever it was in racing that pissed you off it is destroying your enjoyment of your twilight years. I gather it was you that started the fake news about Te Akau leaving Cranbourne.

I thought it was the whip initially but I'm not so sure now. I've seen her lose the plot when she is put under pressure. I reckon Sweynesday came back at her. Notice how she went for the clerk of the courses horse when caught?

So it wins or not? You know you never give answers , scared of being proven wrong , which you are usually anyway. Anha Anha for me , that's how you tip @Chief Stipe .... get some help.

Looks like the only thing she could have shied at was the rail going from white to black?

it will be interesting to see if the put the video up with it there for us to see?

yes the NZ stock is great. The racing there is Not consistent . you need regular week to week racing like Mildura, Redcliffe, Hobart, Penrith and a heap of other locations just to Break even by winning 4 Races per year. The West Australia famous HALL and BOND stables have been buying horses from Southland for years and years Peter. Probably 1000 horses by now. I'm theMightyQuinn probably the best. they're still buying now. Pete McMullens owner bought top slot trotter GUS from down there at Nathan Williamsons in recent years too. Boots raced Captains Mistress out of Nathans as well. Tonight she'll win the Chariots of Fire and be a star of all time. Unfortunately Nathan was going to win a Group 1 at Auckland with her but his sulky' fell apart 100m from the line. Probably the worst bit of BAD LUCK I've ever seen in the Sport. (Hope Nathan has mended from Injury) Village Kid and Lightning Blue went on to be Interdominion Grand Final Champions after being Sold to the Aussies for $40,000 each in the 1980's . I helped bring about 50 horses out of NZ with the South Auckland Standardbred agency and they nearly all went on to win in Australia. NONE of The NZ Owners Had to Sell . They just wanted to. They knew they couldn't compete up in the grades against Roy and Barry , Charlie Hunter ( who would export to USA) and in the south DerekJones , Smolenski, Butt family, Dunn and Dalgety , etc. they are world class and too good for them. Hence most of the owner trainers are still hacking around out your Sunday meetings on grass or whatever to this day. And always Looking for an Aussie Buyer. thankfully Shannon and Boots at the yearlings sales leave a few horses with NZ trainers these days . Very enterprising men . and ultra successful in life.

Raced handy today… good win for all. Love it when the battlers beat the big stables

I very much doubt it - certainly not in real terms as the original sponsorship was huge and is what made the race attractive to Owners and Trainers. Not to mention the associated marketing around it. But are you talking about the First Sovereign Trust sponsorship? There was no sponsorship 2009 - is that correct?

Or was it named after the 1878 soda pop made with an extract from a certain South American plant? From which the slang term "moxie" arose.

Are you sure the 2007 and 2008 sponsorship deal didn't?

I didn't say they did. I just said that never Club could match the sponsorship of Bayer.

I'm becoming a bit bored with this, but just got back from walking the dog and would like to point out two things. First, the Industry was told, when Slot races were introduced, that the main advantage was that they would "cost the Industry nothing". Who, or what changed that? (and to be fair to Mr. Steele, it was before his time). Second, in his speech at a "future is Now" presentation just after he started, Mr. Steele suggested that slots could be bought by groups of say, 30 young people, who could put in $10k each. At the time, I remember laughing out loud at the naivety of that idea. Sadly I have been proven right. Oh, and just a last thought regarding having good horses. Using Mr. Boots as an example, how many horses has he bought that have been developed by excellent NZ trainers and gone on to be his stars? The problem is that your average owner has little alternative than to sell to rich owners like him.

So are you suggesting that all NZ Harness races should be Reefton Maiden trots to save money? Of course they can't keep running races at a loss (if that's the case) but you don't seem to offer any suggestions other than ENTAIN taking the betting restrictions off you so you can make the loss bigger!!!

Chief, why are the terms and conditions to what Entain has to contribute to NZ racing commercially sensitive now? They have no competition from other betting agencies, do why? Rest assured it will not be much and stakes are going to plummet and there sill be so many owners currently who will give it away! I reiterate, Entain are not interested in NZ racing, it is not their forte! Anyway, do not like having to point out the future the way it is going to be for harness racing, would much prefer to have it thriving! Probably no point debating it as it has little effect on myself, more frustrated for the genuine participants who rely on it for a living!