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and i forgot to add,i would get mr unhinged to have be involved in the marketing strategies,what content appears on the hrnz website and give him a place on the board as well.

Nope… not full of shyte. No doubt others will have same account manager , Josh from Christchurch. They are obviously targeting exsisting customers of both TAB & Betcha, expect plenty of giveaways to those that bet less since geo blocking, figures will look terrible by end 2026.

You know you've said the same above thing many times and its getting a bit silly now. Never once have i said i want north island harness racing or auckland racing to close.I don't think i've read where anyone has ever even said they want that. when someone says a business needs to restructure and run their business in a way which consolidates their ability to continue to operate a viable,sustainable business,that does not mean they want that business to end. I would have thought it obvious its the opposite to how you always interpret it. and i've persnally never said i don't want cheap cambridge tuesay racing. Again,i've said the opposite,so many times.Since you've forgotten i will say it yet again. If they are to run cambridge meetings with such small fields they need to run them with lower stakes so they don't keep losing money on them. i have said cambrisge racing is boring,some of the driving is questionable,that the stipes oversight is below the standard seen in the south island,that the oversight of junior drivers by the stipes is particularly poor and inconsistent,that its not a good betting product mainlyn due to small fields and will turn people off betting on harness racing,But i've never saidi wanted them not not run the lower class meetings. again,what i have said is the stakes need reduced and those involved need to lift their game.. you didn't throw in i'm anti north island racing people like you often do. I suppose thats something this time. and by the way,i have advocated for a policy that means stakes paid to winning and placed connections are reduced from those programmed,with the level of stakes being based on a sliding scale depending on the number of runners. i have said this should apply in the whole of nz. and that rating penalties should be adjusted to reflect if a horse wins a race with a stkae reduced because of a small field.Thats just common sense to me although i realise it will never happen as it makes too much sense. anyways heres my thoughts on who should run hrnz. I would replace everyone on the board and move mr steele and mr peden on.and one of the handicappers as well. then i would put in greg o'conner in mr steeles job. And put people like ceemenow from the other channel on the board and also put the likes of mark jones and michael house into positions where they can influence decision making.I would take j mckinnon out of auckland and offer him a job where he focuses on canterbury and has no auckland input. I like the way hes fought for auckland all the way through.I would even offer to fly you over as the rep for the north island trainers and drivers as you would do your best to fight for their interests. Of course we would have brodie as a consultant as hes always on the money and get nowornever to fill in for brodie whens hes on his overseas trips. Then harness racing would prosper and get back on track.

Gamma, the thing is they should not be racing for the stake money they currently are!!! It should have been used far more wisely than they have and ultimately the buck stops with Brad Steele! The stakes they have put up they just can not afford, only being paid due to the Entain cash splash. There are going to be a helluva lot of owners and trainers give it away when they are racing for significantly what they are currently racing for.

I guess that is the only thing going for the horse, by Almanzor which is known to leave a stayer or 3, Manzoice

the more I watch it! it appeared as if Pinn's horse arched in! as they entered the straight, I thought the inside horse had the run down that path! when does the stipes report come out?

yes , it's one of those things. You put races on they cost money. It's very hard to do Brodster. The Australian Turf Club in Sydney have been declared Bankrupt in December and will be lucky to survive having an administrator appointed. VICTORIA harness has about the same horse and personnel (participant ) numbers as New Zealand. they were over 66 million in the red , because of operating costs , and the cost of running harness racing meetings when not many bet on them anymore . But What do you do Mate ? A lot of people are employed in different areas of Victoria. Do you just go eeny meeny minee mo ? and close some of them ? Which ones ? In NZ you say close the North Island . At least you're making your mind up I spose 🤣😂. ( I quite like the North and wouldn't do it myself but everyone's different 😉 ) Anyway the state Government have bailed the HRV out of the hole ( for a land acquisition) for 100 million , and paying the stakes for this year and next . with the Low prizemoney they race for now. YES, just like NZ they will run out of money again , but the money is allocated for all the racing for the 20-30 clubs for the next 2 seasons. If ENTAIN refuse to support you after the 2 years (as you claim) then the stakes money will drop as you say unless they get great sponsors (like you and OZ have Garrards at the moment for example) who will prop it up a bit. Ladbrokes (an Entain sub-branch) still prop up QLD harness so can't see why Entain won't prop you with someone. It was a long contract they signed with NZ TAB. All will be good . they're invested mate . all good. They won't RUN DRY mate. Don't Panic too much. People are trying hard to put races on still . Slots help the participants contribute so that is a SURE FIRE way to keep BIG prize races going. there are other ways . I've had discussions with David Brick who did such a spectacular job keeping QLD harness racing going through COVID and very trying times financially ,And he has now been poached by the galloping code accordingly, and is now Racing Queensland General Manager . A very high position. He is full of great ideas that keep the sport going. We'll send him over to help The Galah get an answer out of Brad Steele? . 💪 the Brick rules the world.

not for the likes of you to know that sort of thing!!! 🥳

Interesting to see them actually coming out wide and some making some ground up!

Lord no! Copied from elsewhere.

Was that your preview?

Gamma, you are never in the bad books loo you did hit the nail on the head with your last comment! “they might run out of money in 2 years”. Nothing surer than them running out of money again, even though they were given a lifeline! Personally believe that they have acted irresponsibly and it will be shown as such!! If We are wrong then how about someone come on to BOAY and totally dispel what we are saying, it is not hard to do that?

Trainer Mick Nolan’s Stylish Secret (NZ) (Sweet Orange) produced a plucky front-running performance to deny in-form mare Sun Gift (NZ) (Savabeel) when winning the Ule Hoof Oil Handicap (2400m) at Caulfield on Saturday. Given a perfect ride by apprentice Luke Cartwright, Stylish Secret enjoyed a breather mid-race and filled up the lungs enough to stave off the challenge of Sun Gift as the pair cleared out by more than three lengths from third-placed American Wolf (NZ) (Tivaci). The diminutive son of Sweet Orange carried just 52.5kg after Cartwright’s claim and has taken his connections on an enjoyable ride. From 20 starts, the four-year-old gelding has won on four occasions and is three-times placed, advancing his career earnings to A$351,525. Among those wins are now two victories at the course and distance. “Definitely the 52 kilos was in his favour today, as well as Luke’s lovely ride in front,” Nolan said. “I said to him before the race, ‘you’ve got 52, make sure the others know you’ve got the lightweight and don’t let them dictate. You dictate to them, because he’s fit and will run the 2400.” “He just hasn’t got that sprint like Sun Gift’s got, but he’s a tough grinder and that’s what he did today.” Nolan said he would give consideration to running Stylish Secret in the Gr.3 Launceston Cup (2400m) on February 25. “It’s nice if you go there and win it, but then you’re handicapping yourself. All these horses that were top weights here today have all won good races, and that makes them hard to place in the future,” Nolan said. Stylish Secret was purchased in New Zealand by part-owner Helen Thomas off Gavelhouse.com for just $2,300 as a weanling. A highly-acclaimed journalist, broadcaster and author, Thomas was on the hunt for a staying type and sought the advice of long-time friend, the late Deane Lester, one of Australia’s most respected form students, who approved of the pedigree, which includes six-win half-brother Unseen Ruler (NZ) (Mongolian Khan). View the full article

Robbie Patterson looks to have another serious Gr.1 Al Basti Equiworld Dubai New Zealand Oaks (2400m) contender on his hands following Ultimate Habit’s victory at Trentham on Saturday. The promising daughter of Embellish broke through for her maiden win in the Gr.2 Jennian Homes Lowland Stakes (2100m), a race Patterson won last year with Leicy Lucy before she won the Oaks, and he is looking forward to shooting for back-to-back wins in the Classic at its new home of Ellerslie next month. “We are definitely going to go to the Oaks on that,” Patterson said. “It is going to be a lot trickier going the other way around at Ellerslie, but she is such a laidback filly.” Ultimate Habit had three prior starts, finishing second at New Plymouth last month before running sixth in the Gr.3 Desert Gold Stakes (1600m) at Trentham a fortnight ago, and Patterson was confident of a bold showing despite her last start result. “I wasn’t disappointed with her run the other day, she just got stuck on the inside on a tricky track, but I knew she was a good filly,” he said. “The two runs at home, the way she got home she was unlucky, she should have won her maiden. “Gryllysy (Craig Grylls) rode her a peach, got her in a good rhythm and the horse had a good turn of foot.” Grylls was impressed with Ultimate Habit’s good turn of foot when running down her rivals late after racing off the pace for the majority of the journey, but he said she still has plenty of maturing and improvement to come. “She had enough speed, which was good,” Grylls said. “She raced a little bit keen still, but she cruised into it at the right time. She is still pretty new and green to it, she wanted to lay in and still did a couple of things wrong, but she has done it pretty comfortably in the end. “I was really happy to secure the ride. Her last run wasn’t that great on paper, but Robbie filled me with confidence, he said he had a good one and he has proved that right.” From Taranaki racing royalty, Ultimate Habit hails from the family of 11-time Group One winner Rough Habit, which also includes Group One winners Molly Bloom and Addictive Habit, and Group One performer Citi Habit. Out of winning Bachelor Duke mare Queens Habit, Ultimate habit has now won one and placed in one of her four starts to date and earned more than $107,000 in prizemoney. View the full article

Exciting filly Liguria (NZ) (Snitzel) opened her winning account in fine style with a courageous victory at stakes level when she claimed the Gr.3 Colin Jillings 2YO Classic (1200m) at Ellerslie. The impeccably bred daughter of Snitzel didn’t disgrace herself when finishing fourth on debut at the venue on Boxing Day and that experience stood her in good stead for Saturday’s juvenile feature that carries the name of the late New Zealand training legend Colin Jillings. Bearing the colours of Cambridge Stud principals Brendan and Jo Linday, who bred and race the filly, Liguria jumped nicely from barrier four with rider Warren Kennedy immediately slotting her in the trail behind pacemakers Parfait Dimanche (Anders) and race favourite Harvey Wallbanger (NZ) (Home Affairs). That pair set up a steady clip and looked to have the rest of the field in trouble rounding the home bend, with Harvey Wallbanger immediately assuming control with 300m to run. Kennedy had Liguria winding up nicely on the heels of the favourite and he looked vulnerable to a late attack as the filly hit overdrive to speed past him in the shadows of the post and claim a decisive short-neck victory. Trainer Lance Noble admitted he was showing his age a little as he recalled training Vernazza (NZ), the dam of Liguria, who took out the 2020 edition of the Gr.2 Matamata Breeders’ Stakes (1200m) before finishing second in the Gr.1 Sistema Stakes (1200m) during her juvenile season. “She is bred to be good being the first foal out of a mare I trained, Vernazza, who won the Matamata Breeders’ (Stakes),” Noble said. “It certainly ages you a little bit when you are training the daughters and granddaughters. “She is not very big but is supremely athletic and has that will to win. There is not much of her so we will have to nurse her along. “She does have a great attitude, a real sweetie, and is very popular around the stable. “We came here with a little bit of confidence after her first up run and she is only going to get better. “I’m just thrilled for everybody at the Farm (Cambridge Stud) which keeps the roll going for them after a wonderful yearling sale.” Liguria will now attempt to emulate her dam by winning the Matamata Breeders’ Stakes, which will be run on 14 February. The victory caps off an extraordinary week for Cambridge Stud who claimed the leading vendor title and offered the sale-topping yearling, a colt by resident stallion Sword Of State that sold for $1.1 million, at the New Zealand Bloodstock National Yearling Sale at Karaka. View the full article

Some did Yes, there are staying stallions standing but most commercial stallions these days have too much speed influence to get the 2 miles. Almanzor throws a good staying sort at times. And they have a bit of class. So I might go Trav and Manzor Blue. I agree with you on Manzor Blue. In addition to the sire, Almanzor she has Sir Tristram twice on the Dam side as well as Montjue

Not from general wagering but they have been known to withdraw bonus offers.

It is still living up to the other slogan, Punters Graveyard. Hard to make any sort of story at all for Manzor Blue

A marketing slogan started 20+ years ago.

The decisions are made by the Harness racing Board. you know this. Not one man who is the figure head. But just as the Prime Minister gets blamed (quite wrongly too ) for any perceived 'Poor Decision' and gets the blame in Government , it is really his party that approves policy. And usually it has to be approved by the Opposition anyway to be bought into legislation. Are you saying the whole NZ harness racing board is Incompetant ?? 🤣 Brodie doesn't like the way they run their business . the HRNZ put races on . Participants show up . That's the business Brodie. Simple as Pie mate. Even those you criticise so much are quite capable of doing that. has happened for over 100 years. and YES , when they put on Mile races , they are much better for the horse . they recover better . 👍🤣😂😎 Why this ? Because Mr Galah there has been Infinite calls for North Island harness, ATC and whatnot, to cease from you guys . That sure is the very definition of Anti Harness Racing to me ?? . I even had lengthy arguments here about the Plus's of the Cambridge Slot races ,and You guys didn't even want Cheap Tuesday racing at Cambridge ?? I had a few bouts of Brodie and others bagging that even , they were spending ONLY $50,000 to run a whole meeting to support your smaller players. We do it All the time around Australia . It's A GOOD thing . I support it 100%. Keeps the small GRASS ROOTS people in the sport , which I agree 😂with you is very important . As is the ATC , full of nice long term Harness racing folk over generations. Talked about on this forum like they're ferals or something 🤣 And yes the BIG guys are important too. Seymour (and NZ persons like him e.g the Stonewall guy) are more important than anyone . Big cash buying yearlings and so on, so forth. you know how important they are but just shoot em' down for some reason . So NO NEED for me to infer anything Mr Galah . You guys quite capable of SHOW just how anti -harness or anti harness people like HRNZ, Mr Steele, anyone North Island, Stipes, Junior drivers , and Especially the Programmers and Handicapper too, nearly every post . Anyway good on Brad Steele trying to keep it all going . very sad to read the bagging here. couldn't not say something , as someone should appreciate his efforts. even though it puts me in the 'Bad Books ' too. Such is Life lol 😋 Even in trying times in Queensland , we have managed to resurrect the INTERDOMINION. which was a traditional time honoured Harness racing 'exclusive' event, for NZ and Aus to compete in Thanks to people like Steele, and David Brick and pro-active people who want to see harness racing continue , even when it is a poor betting product (for most) these days we can still get great races and racing put on. Now lets shoot em' because they might run out of money in 2 years time lol 😂😁

So if you only bet on BETCHA when they send you an offer and withdraw when you win how do you have a "BETCHA account manager"? I suspect you are full of shyte.

I am still betting with overseas operators…. so thanks for your comments. Only time i use Betcha, is when they get desperate and send me offer, use there bonus bets, then withdraw. As you dont gamble, you wont be aware of the poor odds Entain offer compared to those that have competition overseas…. just get back to your copy & past bro, look forward to reading something i have seen days before ❤️

Thought same…. too many jockeys get bullied out of positions

Hard to tell without the head on but I think Pinn was just holding his line, and not allowing himself to be poshed out

What does that mean.