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perhaps the biggest indicator of mr pinns regard for any of his fellow jockeys safety,was ...when asked if he had any submissions as regards the penalty after being found guilty,he said,he regarded the charge against him was a joke. his actions and his comments afterwards,to me are quite disturbing. those hearing that case should have imposed anger management as well. I say that from the perspective of what would assist mr pinn to race ride in a proper frame of mind.

I guess you are taking the piss. I suppose.

I would have led him in.

Multiple Group One winner Jimmysstar (NZ) (Per Incanto) will have a light autumn in preparation for a spring campaign aimed at The Everest. The Ciaron Maher-trained galloper will kick off in Melbourne with the Gr.1 William Reid Stakes (1200m) at Caulfield before venturing north where he will contest the Gr.1 T J Smith (1200m) and the Gr.1 All-Aged Stakes (1400m), both at Randwick, in April. After that it will be off to the paddock to prepare for the Gr.1 The Everest (1200m) at Randwick in October, a race he finished third in behind Ka Ying Rising last year. Maher took advantage of taking Jimmysstar to Caulfield on Tuesday morning in preparation for the William Reid, which will this year be run at Caulfield on March 21. Jimmysstar has an excellent Caulfield record, winning the Gr.1 Oakleigh Plate (1100m) first-up last autumn while at his most recent racetrack appearance he took out the Gr.1 C F Orr Stakes (1400m) in November. “He spelled well and I’ve just been ticking him over,” Maher said. “He hasn’t done a lot, but I thought we could bring him away to a nice surface today and warm the cockles up a little bit. “He seems great. His condition is really good, his action, I’m happy with it. “I don’t want to give him too taxing an autumn with a view to having him pretty right for a shot at The Everest again.” Maher concedes Jimmysstar is more effective at 1400m than over the shorter sprint trips, but has a devastating turn of foot, especially fresh. After finishing third in The Everest, Jimmysstar went on to win the Russell Balding (1300m) at Randwick before making his way to Melbourne to take out the C F Orr. “He got better as he went along and as the distances slowly increased, winning the Russell Balding and then down here,” Maher said. “The 1400 metres is probably his pet distance, and we keep him fresher for the ones shorter. “He likes coming here to Caulfield, he’s got a good record here, and the William Reid, being run here, the conditions suit him and the track suits him. “So far, so good.” View the full article

A Tuesday morning trip across to Te Rapa has Cambridge trainer Andrew Forsman in a positive frame of mind with his quartet of feature race candidates at Waikato Thoroughbred Racing headquarters on Saturday. Heading the contingent is Hinekaha (NZ) (Savabeel), who had raceday rider Craig Grylls in the saddle for a solo hitout on the Te Rapa course proper as she prepared for her Group One debut in the $700,000 Herbie Dyke Stakes (2000m). “The track was lovely after a bit of rain overnight and it was good to get across there for a nice hitout ahead of the weekend,” Forsman said. “Hinekaha worked over 1400m and picked up the tempo from the 800. She got home in around 36.5, which was great work, she did it very well. “Craig was very happy with her too, so she looks all set for Saturday.” The Savabeel mare completed a hat-trick when winning the Gr.2 Cal Isuzu Stakes over the same 2000m as Saturday’s weight-for-age feature at Te Rapa in December. In her only start since she closed late for a short-neck second to Tuxedo in the Gr.3 Aotearoa Classic (1600m) on the Karaka Millions card and will be more suited to the additional distance on Saturday. While having some reservations at the step up to Group One weight-for-age company, Forsman counters that by the physical improvement Hinekaha has made in her four-year-old season, combined with what is shaping as less challenging opposition than originally anticipated. “She’s a completely different proposition to this time last year, she’s so much bigger and stronger. There’s still a little way to go, but the way this track plays for her it really suits, and with the field not quite as strong as it looked originally, we’ve decided to run. “Put it this way, I think she’s going well enough to do it.” Forsman is also looking forward to testing some of the rising talent in his team, two of them against age-group opposition in the Gr.2 David &Karyn Ellis Fillies’ Classic (2100m), Gr.2 Legacy Lodge Waikato Guineas (2000m) and the other in the special conditions Sir Patrick Hogan Karapiro Classic (1600m). Single Red (NZ) (Vanbrugh), the winner of her last two starts, is entered for both three-year-old features, Chilling Out (NZ) (Savabeel), who finished fifth in the Listed Karaka Millions 3YO (1600m), is in the Ellis Classic, while Rambling On (NZ) (Almanzor), a winner at Te Rapa in December, prepared for the Karapiro Classic with a recent trial win at Pukekohe. “They’re all in good shape and worked well this morning,” Forsman said. “I’ve yet to make up my mind with Single Red as to which race she runs in, but it might get down to whether they ballot her in one of them. “Chilling Out is also a filly I really like but she’s a bit like Hinekaha a year ago, so we’ll take her one race at a time. “Rambling On is a four-year-old that I’ve been able to bring along quietly but he’s come to hand well lately and the ($350,000) stake on Saturday is definitely worth a crack at.” View the full article

I bet the staff were lining up to lead that bloke in!

Regardless of how it was funded it was never enough. Clubs needed to get alternative revenue. The whole Club funding model is crap. Make the stakes portion of the wagering revenue contestable based on a number of key metrics. However a Club still needs other sources of revenue. Your model would only fund less than 10 racecourses IF they didnt have other sources of funding.

I would have thought that delays in testing or retesting, especially if influenced by power would be "anathema" to all in the industry including you? Or do you have no concern for human or equine H&S?

Bit of hurdle practice maybe

Well it used to be funded by clubs themselves from their wagering revenue. Since bulk funding came in, NZTR now distribute that to clubs, however they have dictated that funding be used almost entirely for stakes, thus removing clubs' funding for infrastructure.

Why is it incumbent? If it is then NZTR have the option of choosing WHO they fund using the limited amount of funds they have. Next you will be saying it is incumbent on the NZ Taxpayer to fund your hobby.

When was the last competitive sport you competed in @Thomass aka @bono ? Let me guess tiddlewinks at the local RSA? Sorry I meant indoor bowls. I tell you now in my sporting career I had my elbows out and so did everyone else.

Judge for yourself rather than looking at @Thomass aka @bono selected screenshots.

Because it is incumbent on NZTR to fund that and they don't.

I've used your favourite AI tool "AI Overview Whether there is any "excuse" for human physical violence is a complex question that depends on whether one is looking for a legal, ethical, or moral justification. While advocates and experts agree that there is never an excuse for domestic abuse, intimate partner violence, or acts of power and control, certain, narrow, and specific circumstances are generally recognized where the use of physical force may be legally and ethically justified. Widely Recognized Justifications Self-Defense: The most universally accepted justification for physical violence is to protect oneself from an immediate, imminent threat of serious physical harm. Defense of Others: Similar to self-defense, using reasonable force to protect another person from an active, violent attack is often considered justifiable. Preventing Imminent Harm (Defense of Property/Others): In some jurisdictions, reasonable force may be used to prevent a crime from being committed, such as stopping a burglary or preventing a child from running into danger. Law Enforcement: The use of force is legally sanctioned for police officers in specific, regulated situations to maintain public safety or apprehend suspects. Key Conditions for Justification For violence to be considered legally or ethically justified, it generally must meet strict criteria: Proportionality: The force used must match the level of the threat (i.e., you cannot use deadly force against a non-deadly threat). Imminence: The threat must be happening now, not a past or future threat. Reasonableness: The action must be what a "reasonable person" would do in that situation. Contextual Distinctions No Excuse for Abuse: Violence used to control, intimidate, or harm a partner or family member is never justified, regardless of provocation, stress, or the influence of alcohol/drugs. Retaliation vs. Defense: Hitting someone back after they have stopped attacking is considered retaliation or revenge, not self-defense, and is not legally excused. Philosophical Views: While some, such as pacifists, argue that violence is never moral, others argue that violence can be a justifiable "last resort" to uphold justice, protect the vulnerable, or defend a community. In summary, while "excuses" are often offered to rationalize violent outbursts (such as "I was drunk" or "I was provoked"), these are not accepted as valid justifications for abuse. The only generally accepted, narrow exceptions are restricted to immediate, proportional defense of life and safety." So, NO is the answer...obviously You can make up all the excuses in the 'violence' World...wasting, heat of the moment (after the race is NOT hotm) wife didn't cook her partners eggs properly, et el It's NEVER justified and if you still think it is then i suggest you hand in your counselling badge

No that Freehold land was one of the factors not the complete picture nor did I rank the relative importance. That said CJC seem to have a more secure location than the likes of New Plymouth. As for you second question you miss the point. It is incumbent on each and ever club to maintain their own infrastructure. Not many are doing it.

I'm getting sick and tired of the old men and women moaning about every little thing they can find with what they perceive to be wrong. Yes @Freda I'll quote from the Leo Molloy playbook - most of them haven't acheived a great deal of success in racing and are blaming anything they can find for that lack of success. Racing is a tough brutal game for lots of reasons not the least of which is you are dealing with a 500kg animal that is not only tough but fragile, that is not only smart but dumb. PS: @Murray Fish I don't put you in the moaner category by a long way.

yeah right! I will say my insults when I am standing in front of you! Do you get out much, or is it 100% social media worrier! baby!! Ponder this, most times I am on course I will have a brief chat with the stipes on that day! I do find that they give me their time and ear! 95% of the time the topic will be 'unsafe tracks' perhaps that is the approach that you might like to try! re Jockeys, On the surface, there is a lot of gilts and glamour! In reality many are often challenged with weight and the reality of 'dieting' and the challengers that go with that sort of thing! Then having to produce top physical and split second decisions in the race! mistakes are made! rules are broken! The best stipes know that and take that on board! Then of course! Any 'work place' mistake can get serious media spotlight! I could continue in this vain! but sigh! I really am getting tire with 'things racing', very soon I will be gone....

Perhaps @Thomass taking the photos scared it.

wow

i see n40 racing had the first of its 3 high priced purchases from last years yearling sales,line up at the trials last week. The questions i have are ..is it normal for horses sold at nz yearling sales a year ago, to not change ownership officailly. ..And is it normal for the stipes to allow horses to start at trials,knowing that hrnz has the owner as someone who hrnz themselevs have publicised is not the owner and of course the stipes would have known that. I mean,maybe it is within the rules for hrnz to let horses start,when they obviously know the owners listed aren't correct.Will the stipes not only allow it to start at the trials,but can it race under ownership that sold it over a year ago. maybe someone can clarify what hrnz allow,i have read the rule . Is there some type of preferential treatment being shown for a big player,or does hrnz and the stipes allow all owners to run horses at trials and races,knowing the owners shown arenot the actual owners. . i note all 3 of the horses bought over a year ago at the sales by N40 racing, are still owned by the breeders who sold them at the sales,according to hrnz.

Yes @Thomass gets away with a lot online.

Fawcett should've had the book thrown at her. There's few worse sights in a race than an imbecile like Fawcett exiting a beautiful trailing position behind the leader (who carried on and won the race) well before the turn, carving up anything and everything in the process then not having the horse power to improve the position she exited FFS. This is incompetence personified and Fawcett isn't alone with this disease. Furthermore, it's preposterous Pinn was indicted and found guilty of careless riding whilst endeavouring to halt an errant jockey... on a pilgrimage.

Little bastard got off real light.