Chief Stipe

Why? With multiple agencies?

Right so what have you decided to do with that 80% ($1m)?

Geez is everyone looking for ghosts and crabs under rocks?

LOTTO as well? Will they also tax winnings?

Uh? You are the one that is coming up with spurious statistics to support your negative hypothesis that the NZ Thoroughbred Breeding industry is stuffed. None of us have a clue what you are trying to achieve with your obsession.

I already have. I said NONE. As in Zip, Nada, ZERO! You really are quite thick aren't you.

Could be a number of things. There are two sets of customers that could be affected. Those NZ punters that didn't have accounts with the NZ TAB and only bet with overseas agencies; Those NZ punters that had accounts AND overseas accounts. So what would delay punters punting on the NZ TAB? Well some would throw their toys and give up punting altogether. That won't last for long - the itch will get itchier; Those that had only bet overseas might be waiting for compliance issues to get their punting money back to NZ. I imagine for some it wouldn't be straightforward as they would have done all sorts of ruses to get the accounts created. If they don't have an NZ account then they have to go through the account creation process; Some would have NZ accounts and are already restricted so they can't up their betting. Probably trying to convince mum to create an acccount; Gone to underground options which might be temp or permanent; .... There is of course the possibility that it wasn't near the esitmated leakage that the NZTAB and DIA estimated although reading the online moaning going on it seems there was a fair amount. What percentage of your punting was in overseas accounts?

That's your interpretation of his reaction. If it was his expectation that the transfer would be immediate then it was a bit unrealistic.

I never had the expectation that it would be $10m a month nor that it would happen very quickly.

I doubt the "casual punter" worries about any of those factors. A regular punter might and a serious punter would. Although the latter tends to look for value anywhere.

No why? You are trying to find a link between the monopoly legislation AND the number of accounts AND an increase in revenue. You are assuming that you know how many existing accounts with the TAB had accounts overseas AND that some of the new accounts were or weren't NZ customers with only overseas accounts that changed. You are missing a whole lot of data before you derive causation.

Do you have a link?

Which Clubs have the funds to maintain them and which ones are on a regular basis? That is the fundamental question.

Based on what evidence? If they do then yes they probably are on pay with Ellerslie in terms of what the punter perceives as a quality product. I note with 15 mins before the start of race 1 they have $4,500 in the W/P pools.

So? It is having an influence. Are you suggesting that the NZ BASED Stallions are not having an impact? You really don't get the basic concepts of horse breeding do you? There is only so much inbreeding one can do. BTW the most influential stallion in NZ over the last 45 years was Irish bred. His sire sons (many bred in NZ) are still influencing the breed both here and in OZ.