Chief Stipe

LOL hypocricsy at its best. Are you judging the youth of today from your own failures? If you are as good as you profess them you need as many people as possible to lose so you can buy your lunch!

Why would NZTR bother investing with a bunch of disparate self interested Clubs who bludge off each other when it suits and have no collective vision? @Huey you are the problem not the solution.

Why wouldnt they when they can bludge off the track down the road?! Geez you talk about mafia!!!

You are wrong wrong wrong. So you are either thick or have an agenda. Tell us which.

OK so you've finally come to the conclusion that under the current model most Clubs can't pay their way.

Why? I guess you are Anti-racing.

It's not "market rate" it's "mates rates"! If Otaki said no we want more so we can pay our way where does Levin go? For that matter why does Otaki have a loan from Levin?

No it doesn't but it has always been an on pace runner and likes clear air. Billy rode it OK as he as in the past. There was nothing to take a sit behind.

The answer to question 2 is yes. Betting IS monitored. As for 3. It is no different to Pokies where it is up to individual responsibility to restrict themsleves and there are processes to do that. You really are bitching for the sake of it. What ENTAIN have in place os light years ahead of the old TAB.

...and we all wonder why CD racing is in such a mess. Levin run their Jumpouts with the minimum of facilities and ongoing maintenance costs. Otaki on the other hand have considerably more racing infrastructure to maintain and to a higher level. $10k to hire a fully functional event venue and core horse racing infrastructure up to raceday standard is well below cost. The reality is neither Club makes enough money to maintain either venue to a high standard.

I realise you look for anything you can to moan about but some of your comments are not correct regarding the Safer Betting options available on the TAB App. Just click on the hamburger button bottom right titled more and you will see on the next menu a position 4 a tab through to a Safer Betting Menu. There you can find a plethora of options to limit your betting - glad you are worried about it just before Christmas and intend to limit your losses. You can also view you statements.

For a start do Levin pass on to Otaki any of the special NZTR Funding from the following categories: Meeting Type; Venue Category; Race Meeting Compliance; Club Compliance Funding; Event Tier. If Levin have 3 out of the 13 meetings held at Otaki shouldn't they be paying at a minimum 23% of the costs to maintain the track and facilities?

Are you serious? Surely you aren't suggesting that he took a sit behind Elyssian Fields which stopped reall quickly. Pinn tried to settle EV but he was running very strongly. EV is better over 2000m and he was always vulnerable coming back to 1600m and giving that much weight to Mary Shan who admittedly is running above her previous form at the moment.

WOW! A breakthrough! I do detect a glimmer of optimism from you. Did the home provide a full English Breakfast today?

Probably nothing but Ellerslie will probably keep the subsidies.