Chief Stipe

Yep we've talked about this before. One site streams in HD the other in SD or less and requires less bandwidth. The TABNZ app is the same in terms of required bandwidth for videos. They don't have the technology to recognise your bandwidth and adjust accordingly. Annoys the shyte out of me. I don't need to see the welts on a horses butt just who is winning!

I wouldn't dare stop you.

I named Peter Vela. You said I'd probably say Lindsay and Ellis as well. I agreed with you. So that's effectively three I've named that "fit the bill" although you couldn't bring yourself to name Ellis. Now we await your critique.

Where did I say Photo-shop? You've taken part of one frame at way less than High Definition to support your claim. Just about as bad as @Yankiwi taking Google Gmaps screen shot and less than high resolution and sayin the Wanganui Straight Track was crooked!!!

Oh I thought it was synonymous with your term "Matamata Mafia"! I did. We are all awaiting your critique of why they can't help with the "recovery of the sport". @Huey as always you are talking vague generalities. Come on be specific. Avoidance again @Huey - we are all waiting for your critique of those already named.

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I don't know Whiteman.

As for @Thomass alarmist headline - NZ's EPIC Whip cheating on a Grand scale. Yeah na!

I don't think it is great they bought in the flank strike rule as it is difficult to determine and enforce. Easy for you and @Thomass to sit in your armchair during sleepless nights as you worry about whip strikes and count them instead of sheep. "Eureka I found one and I'm going to post it online".... But then @curious didn't FIND it @Thomass found it. No doubt he has forwarded it to the animal rights lobby just like @Yankiwi did.

Does anyone truly comprehend the issues? That's been going on for at least 25 years or more. Then again the strangled small players only need one good horse. How have they "pushed their barrows"? It is assumed that The Breeders made all the "detrimental" decisions. But did they? If for arguments sake they did where were the other stakeholder voices? Why weren't the other industry associations on the ball? That said are some criticising with the benefit of hindsight? BTW the discussion with @Huey isn't circular its a dead end because he never provides any specific detail just generalises about a successful group of people he labels "Whales".

I'm not the one wriggling. You are the one that hasn't posted any evidence to support your assertion.

You know this is what I don't understand about you lot that supposedly support racing. You focus on the minuscule parts and think that absolves you from all your other perceived sins in racing? Take up tiddlywinks!

34% will win an election But seriously if 10% of the population like horse racing isn't that the same as those that like F1 motor racing? They other 90% can pat their pets.

Where do you get that "fact" from? 30% apparently are OK with it. That's a good percentage of the market.

Instead of counting and snapshotting whip strikes why don't you record your own form lines like the rest of us do?

Again that's your perception of a one video frame. I've been caught out with this type of image posting before with @Yankiwi and at the end of the day it doesnt achieve anything except feed the anti-racing woke mob. Bigger issues to address.

That's what you think you see.

It is impossible to take a screen shot of a frame of video on TV with any accuracy. @Thomass manipulates those photos. About time he got off his one trick pony.

I've warned you before @Thomass about posting these types of photos taken off you TV screen. They are far from accurate let alone the fact you don't give an accurate reference. Another selected photo like that and you will be back on moderation.

Exactly the point I made to @curious. You can only assume as you can't see if she touched the horse with the whip. Ironically some are arguing Melvin wasn't "vigorous" enough. Stupid rules that can't be accurately enforced and only implemented as a sop to the anti-racing brigade who don't watch the races anyway. But effectively the industry is doing the counting for them and they only have to look at a report to get something to feed off!!

If you don't have access to that how can you tell where the horse is hit?

I don't actually describe people as "Grassroots" - you do and I was using your definition. Yes to both. Yes I know first hand that one very much does and from what I've heard and read so do the other two. It is up to you to provide evidence to the contrary. BTW they only got to the position they are in now through hard work, savvy business decisions and an ability to find a good horse. They're not the type of people to forget where they've come from nor are they the type of people to stop doing the hard work. The ball is in your court.

Female Jockeys past and present Female Jockey Tribute Day at Oamaru. From left Nichola Yuen, Kylie Williams, Stephanie Faulkner (formerly Clark), Debbie Kennedy (Anderton), Joanne Watt (Lamond), Donna Clark (Wilson), Gabriel Campbell (Foote), Gina Tomlinson, Jan Cameron, Tina Comignaghi, Floor Moerman Front row, Tanya Jonker, Leah Hemi, Nicci Johnson, Debbie Henderson, Jackie Jamieson. https://bitofayarn.com/ Photo supplied from Tayler Strong

LOL @Comic Dog I don't think you are in a position to go down the Fat Shaming path!