Wingman

If you believe that then you are also in fairyland. The problems with the Hastings track have been well documented over the last decade with NZTR continually releasing press releases that 'processes are in place to ensure this does not happen again'' OH look, a flying pig. Your comment that I was part of the problem re funding for track redevelopment is also made up fairy dust. That sounds like you are baiting to see what else you can argue about. I have nothing to do with racing other than as a punter and that is on thin ice. Why study form for tracks that are dodgy and then have to pre guess suspect track ratings. This is my final post. I have no interest in having any post that you disagree with, being continually dissected not once but over and over again. It becomes tedious. Bye all, WIngman signing off.

My plan has always been an effective plan. 'Fire the NZTR executive' NZTR press announcement 'There is still a target to return to RACE Awapuni in late August 2025, with a standardised racing programme expected to follow across the upcoming 2025/26 season. However both organisations (That is NZTR and RACE, if this is becoming too complicated for you CS) remain committed to proactive decision-making should the tracks progress warrant any adjustments to this plan'. Which I take to mean they are expecting to totally fuck this up as well. OR/ WHAT FUCKING PLAN? They are incompetent and if you cannot see that CS then you are part of the problem. Then we move onto the announcement on behalf of Hawkes Bay Racing and NZTR where pending approval by NZTR Board (Muppets, my description) partial recambering (Why only partial?, my question) of the bends will take place. And now for final piece of incompetent bullshit. "Not withstanding any unforseen circumstances this significant EXPERT LED investment will allow for a safe and confident return to racing in Hawkes Bay for Spring 2026. YES you have read correctly, not this Spring. (NZTR have been putting this crap out re Hastings track for a decade. Why would any sensible person buy into this fairy tale.) If anyone outside of those who compiled, wrote, or are associated with these announcements, be you breeders, owners or race track officials, believe a word of this nonsense, then you deserve what is coming your way.

Now you are spouting nonsense. Look no further than the opening sentence of their press release "NZTR and RACE are continuing the maintenance and remediation work". NZTR were not responsible for tracks last century but have been all over what tracks get what, for over twenty years. As some of their not so cunning plans have evaporated they have now looked desperately to what needs to be done at tracks they previously wanted closed.

I have said this time and time again, if NZTR operated as a genuine corporate model with shareholders, the people that continue to fuck this once great industry, the people that continue to employ the types that put out todays latest waffle, trying to justify yet another failure, would not be there. The reality however is that they are there, have been there far too long, meaning only a total cleanout of the executive directed by the Minister and ALSO with a significant directional change, will arrest the slide towards the sunset.

The so called experts have managed to create yet another problematic 'NEW' track. The obsession with sand is starting to wear thin and so are my betting strategies as yet another track, if and when it gets back into play, goes into the 'watch' column.

Top left hand arrow on screen/laptop, takes you from the post you are reading back to the sites home page showing all the other posts. Except now it takes you completely out of the site.

This has not happened until this weekend when on this site. I look at a post but when I backspace to look at another post the message 'GATEWAY TIMEOUT' comes up with the following sentence The gateway did not receive a timely response from the upstream server or application. This happens regardless if backspacing within tens of seconds or a few minutes. i

Never easy not to bite when you are being snapped at.. move on. Storm in a teacup. Same applies to the missing threads, C.S. admit someone has got under the sites guard, strengthen the sites defenses, that will annoy whoever they may be and move on. P.S. At present if I try to go back to where I was previously on the site I get a "Time Out" message so someone, somehow, is distorting the bitofayarn site.

Where are the posts/threads that pertain to Awapuni, poly tracks, release of reports etc? They at present appear to have been deleted. If so, WHY?

All of the above. The ongoing serious problems with tracks and a flat property market will mean plan A, B and C have gone out the window with plan D which was always a dud. They are now consulting Earnestly with Ernie from Muppet inc

Correct and he fact they cannot/will not fix this, speaks volumes

This should be compulsory reading for NZTR. When you factor in the above, then add the year on year falling foal crop, why oh why, have we not had real discussion and change with the racing calendar. On that note the trainers Assn had a meeting 48 hours ago re their extreme displeasure as to the state of our tracks but the silence is deafening.

Agree. Certainly the winning jockey is a big part of the drama immediately after the race but long after the race it is the horses name and class/courage we tend to remember

I do not know who Dark Beau is. I have made my thoughts known re the state of Trentham and will not comment further as this post is starting to get more like a you said, I said, squabble, the type that as Jess pointed out on another post does not do anyone favours once the calling out starts..."Get ready to rumble"🤕

So recycling is getting a bad name?😁