jess

Interesting responses - thanks. From my observations - it is a limited number of races where a specific note is made (on NZTR site) for the meeting that nominations will remain open until .. (date/time specified). So my assumption had been - that in the absence of such a note - that nominations closed on the time/date specified in the programme. However It seems further horses do manage - at least on some occasions - to make it into the nominations late. And in the races where I've noticed this happening - those horses do NOT appear in the published noms. - they just miraculously appear when the fields are published. The discussion about the weights is certainly an interesting angle. I might be wrong - but I now have the impression some ppl diligently nominate in accordance with the required deadline - others are able to lurk - wait to see what's nominated - and act accordingly at that point. If someone knows this to be wrong - I'm happy to hear the accurate position. Ultimately, what I would want is that whatever system there is - that it be transparent. 1. That the time/date noms will be accepted up until is clearly set for every race & adhered to 2. That when nom.s are extended/left open to a later date/time - that those further noms are added to the published list as they are received (in as close to real-time as possible) There's no conspiracy theory here. It's just something I've noticed so I'm curious to understand it. I expect there are trainers / others on this forum who'll know exactly how it works. J.

Wonder if Freda or some other learned racing person could answer my query. I notice that sometimes when the noms for a race come out, there are, say, 8 horses. Then when the fields come out suddenly there are, say, 11 or 12 (and I'm not talking about those races where NZTR has specified that noms are to remain open for an extended period). Just wondering how you have to have your noms in by a certain deadline - they are soon after listed on the website - then somehow a bunch of extras show up when the fields are published after acceptance time? Thanks ... Jess .

You're nothing if not predictable, Chief when it comes to certain topics. Bless ....😝 Let's agree to differ on this. You don't have to have a crack at everyone who advances a respectfully put view or position. If that's what we were into, we'd have stayed somewhere else instead of migrating to BOAY .....

I don't believe we are, Chief - & to be fair to Freda - she's only emoji'd my post so perhaps limit any criticism you feel is due to me - as the author of the original post. But I have been awaiting / expecting you to weigh in on this! I get it - that if the actual trainer who won trains exclusively or predominantly TA horses - TA is likely to warrant a mention in the article. However. "Te Akau" does not appear in any directory of trainers I can consult if I am looking to place a horse with a trainer. Nor do they appear on the list of trainers on the NZTR site. So surely they are therefore ineligible to win a trainers' premiership - and to say they did is erroneous. Just as I think we can safely say, on 30 July - that the NZ winner of the trainers' premiership is Walker & Bergerson. It is not Te Akau.

Well - as a buffoon I encountered once said - never let the facts get in the way of the relentless pursuit of publicity (free or otherwise), promotion and self aggrandisement! 😜! Or - for that matter - in the way of sycophants who support the said relentless pursuit! And to be clear - I do note that the article is attributed to one Joshua Smith from the Loveracing NZ News Desk. Not the first (or last) :journo to play fast 'n' loose with the facts. Now my fellow BOAYarners - I'm not personally acquainted with Joshua - but whatever's going on here - & whoever has decided on the content & the title for the article which headlines the syndicator so prominently (albeit, inaccurately) - I can confirm there is no truth in the rumor that "Joshua Smith" is a writer's pseudonym for Karen F-E. J.

Strange headline on the Loveracing site. I understood Te Akau to be a syndicating entity - with the horses they race sporting the colors of that syndicating entity & being trained by trainers appointed by the entity. Te Akau is not a trainer. So I'm confused as to how they can win a trainers' premiership. J. .

Ah ok - sorry Chief - obviously I am late to the conversation - just pleased to be able to watch replays either on computer/phone or cast to TV - without 7-8 "freezes" along the way ... Cheers, J.

Hi there - if you struggle with slow speed rural internet like I do - you might find replaying races via nzracing pretty tedious - frequent stops, buffering etc. Well - this is life for me, at least. But - if I go to trackside.co.nz instead & play the races from there - boom! - plays right through smoothly. Just posting in case other BOAYarners experience the same & haven't discovered this. Kind regards, Jess

I'm sure different jockeys will have slightly different things to say about the track - & wouldn't that be something you'd expect? It might be influenced by things like their experience (obviously in the case of JKB - VERY experienced and you'd have to regard his comments - if quoted accurately - as worth listening to) + with how many rides they had, at what stage of the day, how their mounts coped and where they positioned their horse on the track. Perhaps echoing the feedback of a couple of posters here - and not bagging the track, the manager or any jockeys - I have heard - variability across the track and around the track - particularly not riding as expected around the turn (into the straight) when off the fence It certainly appeared it rode quite differently to the meeting there on 11 May,

"Whales to get Active" Well they're certainly big - but are they whales? - or are they sharks ....

Precisely! Couldn't have put it better, Chief. To focus so heavily on that, is almost to admit defeat re the state of the tracks ....

"Advisory committee to the TAB" Interesting that with all the big noises in the various arms of the industry, who presumably get together and work stuff out - that it's believed we need a new entity to advise. "Vela, Waller, Lindsay, Chittick ... (et al)" Interesting members. Who chose them? Plenty of champagne but not a lot of grass roots there - or understanding, connection with or support for small owners/breeders. Sometimes in TB racing, the gene-pool feels like it's shrinking & sphere of influence feels like existing in a cartel & a money-go-round (with fewer & fewer "horses" circling on that carousel). But I acknowledge I'm seeing it through my lens - and the good & the great may have worked out that the whole industry would be better off without the minnows..

Yes! Rail movements features prominently doesn't it? Not sure why an image flashed into my head - of chaiirs being moved on the deck of a certain ship .... one that now rests on the bottom of the North Atlantic ocean ....

Gotta agree with that. I think in some rooms it's hard for the operators to hear through their little window - & the more complicated the bet - the more chance it gets messed up. Filling out slips for those makes a lot of sense - and easier for the operators - and yep - keeps the queue behind moving along happily ....

Ah ok. Hence the howls of " that bl#*#y thing was paying $4.00 when backed it a minute ago - now it's won `n' paid $2.80!! "🤪