Chief Stipe Posted October 25 Share Posted October 25 Seems Verti-draining is a standard regular part of the Ellerslie track management. Was done again this week. Seems a very aggressive form of turf management. Will the frequent mechanical intervertion affect the Strathayr components? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted October 26 Share Posted October 26 5 hours ago, Chief Stipe said: Seems Verti-draining is a standard regular part of the Ellerslie track management. Was done again this week. Seems a very aggressive form of turf management. Will the frequent mechanical intervertion affect the Strathayr components? Hong Kong after every meeting verti-drain the strip they have raced on after every meeting. So it’s not new for this type of track 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted October 26 Share Posted October 26 1 minute ago, Bill said: Hong Kong after every meeting verti-drain the strip they have raced on after every meeting. So it’s not new for this type of track Renovation Works - Happy Valley turf track 26/09/2024 17:02 The verti-drain and corer were used on the Happy Valley turf track to alleviate surface compaction according to the following schedules: 12 – 19 September A to B Course (Worked Back Position) 26 September C Course (Worked Back Position) and the remaining area On completion of the works, the areas were lightly rolled as per previous practice. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted October 26 Author Share Posted October 26 4 minutes ago, Bill said: Hong Kong after every meeting verti-drain the strip they have raced on after every meeting. So it’s not new for this type of track Ellerslie do it before they race. Do they do the whole width? It raced very firm today. Spratt said the horses weren't getting into the surface. Wouldn't verti-draining assist that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted October 26 Share Posted October 26 8 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: Ellerslie do it before they race. Do they do the whole width? It raced very firm today. Spratt said the horses weren't getting into the surface. Wouldn't verti-draining assist that? No idea, I am no turf manager but if you regularly follow hk racing they do it all the time and then publish it as a media release. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted October 26 Share Posted October 26 What does "Worked Back Position" mean? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted October 26 Share Posted October 26 Times weren't that quick today. I only watched the last but it seemed they were finding it pretty tough going toward the end? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted October 26 Author Share Posted October 26 They put 20mm of irrigation on in the previous 14 hours before raceday. Spratt said the track was very firm and that they weren't getting into the surface after Race 3. I doubt the Good 4 rating was done with any penetrometer readings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted October 26 Share Posted October 26 2 hours ago, curious said: What does "Worked Back Position" mean? I think it means on the home turn the rail is out further than the listed course, so B course worked back means that turn rail on the home turn might be C coursee but then works back into the B course on straightening. you think of how many meetings they have, the corners would get hacked up so they have to push the rail wider on the bend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Beau Posted October 26 Share Posted October 26 It’s now a shit track full stop. Bet on it at your peril. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted October 26 Author Share Posted October 26 16 hours ago, curious said: Times weren't that quick today. I only watched the last but it seemed they were finding it pretty tough going toward the end? I think at least 7 of the races were walk and sprint. The Soliloquy the exception which seemed to be a more even tempo. They broke 1:23 in that race which isn't too bad for Ellerslie. https://www.aucklandracing.co.nz/racing-information/sectional-times/ In other races there were a few sub 11 second 200m sectionals - mostly between the 400m and the 200m. It seems the Jockeys are getting moving around the 500m mark. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted October 27 Share Posted October 27 On the other hand, the fastest first 400 won one race! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAB For Ever Posted October 27 Share Posted October 27 11 hours ago, Chief Stipe said: I think at least 7 of the races were walk and sprint. The Soliloquy the exception which seemed to be a more even tempo. They broke 1:23 in that race which isn't too bad for Ellerslie. https://www.aucklandracing.co.nz/racing-information/sectional-times/ In other races there were a few sub 11 second 200m sectionals - mostly between the 400m and the 200m. It seems the Jockeys are getting moving around the 500m mark. Come on Chief ,don't let your personal bias and paranoia against Northern racing and in particular the Ellerslie track drag down your apparent interest in NZ racing. Starting these negative threads and waiting for the 'tight -five' to add to the negativity appears to turn many away ! There's a lot of good racing happening and about to happen in next few weeks / months and our horsemen and horses will continue to shine throughout Australasia and beyond. Last week some outstanding educated horses breezed up on excellent Te Rapa track and Ellerslie Racing turned on a good days racing on a very windy day ! From where I watched , an excellent view in the Public stand , the track performed well ,and good money on offer ! The big race saw the favourite win after a speedy start from a wide barrier ...she is a star sprinter , while 4 of the races were won after good rides from our top jockeys [Grylls and Spratt ] getting handy early and dictating from outside leader. The other 4 races were won from back in the field , the Richards horse producing a very strong last 75 m. A good day , top riders and trainers to the fore .....and good money to be made ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted October 27 Author Share Posted October 27 6 hours ago, TAB For Ever said: Come on Chief ,don't let your personal bias and paranoia against Northern racing and in particular the Ellerslie track drag down your apparent interest in NZ racing. Starting these negative threads and waiting for the 'tight -five' to add to the negativity appears to turn many away ! It ISN'T a NEGATIVE thread nor was it meant to be a spot for the Kool-aid inspired positivvidy marketing types. It is a thread to look analytically at how the Ellerslie track performed. Which is something I assure many people are looking at since it seems that is where the majority of NZ Racing's capital is now invested. 6 hours ago, TAB For Ever said: From where I watched , an excellent view in the Public stand , the track performed well Where did I say it didn't perform "well"? 6 hours ago, TAB For Ever said: The big race saw the favourite win after a speedy start from a wide barrier ...she is a star sprinter , while 4 of the races were won after good rides from our top jockeys [Grylls and Spratt ] getting handy early and dictating from outside leader. "Getting handy early and dictating from outside leader" would seem to be an agreement from you that it is an on pace track. The question is why? Is it Jockey induced? Or is it something to do with the track surface or shape? I tend to lean towards it being influenced by Jockey decisions and the shape and camber of the final part of the home bend. That is if you haven't got handy by the 500 metres then it is very hard to win and/or make ground from out wide. 6 hours ago, TAB For Ever said: The other 4 races were won from back in the field , the Richards horse producing a very strong last 75 m. Kealoha's race was an even tempo race but not very quick. There might not be much form out of the race. Kealoha wasn't that far off the pace turning for home having made a move at about the 550m make to get handier. I'm not sure how you classify that as winning from back in the field. What were the other 3 wins from off the pace? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted October 28 Share Posted October 28 (edited) They might as well race on that gawd awful black tar sealed carpark! WTF thought it was a good idea 'sighting' an eyesore like that in front of the King Charles stand? Edited October 28 by Thomass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Agent Posted October 28 Share Posted October 28 Surely it matters not if the comments on here are positive or negative. With the amount of money and supposed expertise thrown at Ellerslie you'd expect a safe track surface near to perfection. I don't find any excuses cut the mustard. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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