Thomass Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 Racing Victoria...THE most transparent PUNTER friendly jurisdiction in the Worrrrld...well HK's not bad either...those two Yarra Valley Yarra Valley is rated a Good 4 with a penetrometer of 5.58. There has been 12mm of irrigation applied for the week, 3mm of that in the last 24 hours. The rail is in the true position, as it was at the recent meeting on February 23. Yarra Valley is a 1684m long track with a short, 232m long straight. The 1500m and 1950m stating points have short runs into the first bend and barriers/tactical speed can be important. The 1200m starting point is the most generous with a long run out of the chute and down the back straight before they navigate the home bend. Benalla Benalla is rated a Good 4 with a penetrometer of 5.33. There has been 33mm of irrigation applied for the week, 3mm of that in the last 24 hours. The rail is true with the exception of the section from the 1600m mark to the 400m mark where it is out 3m. Benalla has a sweeping home bend that generally allows horses from rearward positions to work into the race moreso than at other tracks. The straight is a generous 380m long. There is four starting positions down the back straight. The 1100m start has a relatively short run into the home bend and position in running can be crucial. The 1200m, and 1400m starts both have good runs into that home bend while the 1600m start is out of a chute down the bottom of the track and it has a lovely, long run into the one bend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardigras Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 Why do they need all the fluff/opinion. And not just put out the facts. Must be catering for those punt by numbers, punters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted March 16, 2019 Author Share Posted March 16, 2019 (edited) It helps newbies establish front/back runner course bias... such as some in the Boys wear Plaid... ...wouldn't have a clue the 2000M start at HQ is leafal for wide draws... Either go forward and use gas... or drop back and run for luck of course in Punting friendly jurisdictions that would be graciously notified... Thanks Vic/NSW...but screw Kiwi Punters Edited March 16, 2019 by Thomass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardigras Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 I especially like the blurb about Sandown. Rail is in the true position as it was at the last meeting. Sometimes a jockey will switch horses during the race. The leader can win here. When seagulls are around, beware as your horse may take fright so best to have your mount steered along the part of the track where there are less birds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryb Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 Does it apply to Magpies also Mardi or just Seagulls? Why do I find info on Bird numbers on course? & of course the obvious question is: if wearing blinkers does the bird rule apply?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardigras Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 7 minutes ago, barryb said: Does it apply to Magpies also Mardi or just Seagulls? Why do I find info on Bird numbers on course? & of course the obvious question is: if wearing blinkers does the bird rule apply?. The blinkers wearers often don't see the bird until it is to late. Then bang, and that is often followed by the jockey switching routine. The bird rule doesn't apply to blinker wearers, when they win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardigras Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 (edited) Would you like the stats on HQ 2000 metre races? Edited March 17, 2019 by mardigras Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryb Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 Chuck them up Mardi, will almost certainly make the fool look even more foolish. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardigras Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 In the last 8 years, no barrier has won more than one race greater than the expected number it should have based on 1/starters per race. Across groups of 4 consecutive barriers, they also don't reflect an advantage. And even barriers 11 - 14 have won a higher number of races in the last 8 years than 1/starters would say they should. They don't start more than 14 in a race so that is the widest set of 4 consecutive barriers. And how stupid is it to assert some advantage on something that doesn't consider the individual runners that started from the various barriers, especially in light of how few races there are over 2000m to there. It's amazing to think that because 3 horses started from barrier 14 in the last 8 years at that distance, that none have won, it must be a shocker starting out there. As I say, punting by numbers. Thomass should stick to painting by numbers and leave punting to others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardigras Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 He'd probably say the same applies at the 2100m as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryb Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 1 hour ago, mardigras said: As I say, punting by numbers. Thomass should stick to painting by numbers and leave punting to others. I doubt he could excel at this either, dribbling bullshit is his strong point. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 2 hours ago, mardigras said: And how stupid is it to assert some advantage on something that doesn't consider the individual runners that started from the various barriers, especially in light of how few races there are over 2000m to there. It's totally nuts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted March 17, 2019 Author Share Posted March 17, 2019 Whoa delicate petals... I merely said it was a good thang to include various course's intricacies... To extrapolate out stuff that has no relevance to this thread is typical of yous fellas modus operandi's... ...have you no lives?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardigras Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 53 minutes ago, Thomass said: Whoa delicate petals... I merely said it was a good thang to include various course's intricacies... It's not. They will start believing old wives tales like you spout, wonder why they lose like you - all because they were fed a load of bollocks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardigras Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 55 minutes ago, Thomass said: Whoa delicate petals... I merely said it was a good thang to include various course's intricacies... To extrapolate out stuff that has no relevance to this thread is typical of yous fellas modus operandi's... ...have you no lives?? It has relevance since you claimed what Vic provided was good and something for NZTR to consider. That fluff is not good. It should not be there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted March 17, 2019 Author Share Posted March 17, 2019 There's absolutely nothing wrong with this type of info... ...it especially gives an overview to Punters unfamiliar with certain courses... Only an ignoramus wouldn't want to know the 1500M starting point had a short run into a bend Yarra Valley is a 1684m long track with a short, 232m long straight. The 1500m and 1950m stating points have short runs into the first bend and barriers/tactical speed can be important. The 1200m starting point is the most generous with a long run out of the chute and down the back straight before they navigate the home bend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardigras Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 They should ONLY provide facts. A map of the track will give them distances to bends. The other guff is stupid because everything 'can' be important. Just because you do stupid doesn't mean they should be encouraging others to be as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardigras Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 Your inability to write with any intelligence and discuss a topic is why you are the primary person writing on this site. It's why I rarely post here now. You drive people away with stupidity. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted March 17, 2019 Author Share Posted March 17, 2019 You deserve a piss Take due to your very own stupidity Only you would try to argue more information is "guff" Theres totes nothing wrong with a brief description as per Racing Vics if a punter is unfamiliar with a course But you even think tweeting is a waste of money...where no money changed hands id jit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardigras Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 Money changed hands. I think the RIU staff get paid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted March 18, 2019 Author Share Posted March 18, 2019 What about our Feds supplying Pen. Readings...as they do in Arsetralia... ...all 30 readings across the width... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardigras Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 Why would anyone want 30 readings across the track. I'm not interested in one reading let alone 30. If Australia do that, then they are more stupid than I thought. Can you show me the readings for Benalla yesterday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted March 18, 2019 Author Share Posted March 18, 2019 How funny...a few months back you were all for any readings being taken... made available But you simply enjoy being combative.. next Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardigras Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Thomass said: How funny...a few months back you were all for any readings being taken... made available But you simply enjoy being combative.. next Wrong again. I am for readings being taken. And a reading or two being given. But 30 is stupid and a waste of effort. I don't want the readings but the punters can have a few. You still haven't supplied all these readings for Benalla. Where are they? Edited March 18, 2019 by mardigras Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted March 18, 2019 Author Share Posted March 18, 2019 It's hilarious how you blow hard...like the wind... Itd be a simple screen shot of the Managers wee booklet as he's completed his task... Itd indicate how fair or even it is across the width...not some fast lane at Te Rapa where the Track Manager stated... "it drains better against the rails" Traccks in Melbourne use a colour code to indicate how fair across the width it is.. I can easily contact any Track Manager if I wanted more... This is way beyond your comprehension because you gamble by stats and refuse to believe in bias or being caught without cover as a negative Stick to Recar dogs if I was you... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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