barryb Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 6 minutes ago, mardigras said: Still nothing I see. Oh sorry, you've got one example to supposedly support your notion. That's all you ever have. Stupid one off examples post race. That's just further evidence that you are out of your depth. The information I put up wipes your entire idea and throws it down the toilet with the rest of your crap. Mardi, how is it possible that one guy can be so thick? I think its got to the point where even he doesn't believe some of the shit he is putting up on here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardigras Posted August 17, 2018 Author Share Posted August 17, 2018 29 minutes ago, barryb said: Mardi, how is it possible that one guy can be so thick? I think its got to the point where even he doesn't believe some of the shit he is putting up on here. Yep, as discussed, he must just get off on having people respond to him. It has to be a wind up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 1 hour ago, mardigras said: Still nothing I see. Oh sorry, you've got one example to supposedly support your notion. That's all you ever have. Stupid one off examples post race. That's just further evidence that you are out of your depth. The information I put up wipes your entire idea and throws it down the toilet with the rest of your crap. I matched the two you gave me....you continually with FF...which you haven't got the foggiest idea about...as you don't do unlucky Your whole 'speed' premise falls flat on its fake face though... ..when you include examples such as that 2yo maiden race being a superior performance to a HQ G 1 ...which I've proved beyond doubt was superior... the only apples with apples you do is rotten to the core fake times fake news Youre the Trump of the punting industry...no wonder you and your bff don't bother betting here next Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 1 hour ago, barryb said: Mardi, how is it possible that one guy can be so thick? I think its got to the point where even he doesn't believe some of the shit he is putting up on here. The only thing you bring to the table is bogan Bazz... No evidence based vindictive...just smack talk a 5 yo kid does who can't figure a good chup from a rancid one.. ...have another Wakachunga Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryb Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Thomass said: The only thing you bring to the table is bogan Bazz... No evidence based vindictive...just smack talk a 5 yo kid does who can't figure a good chup from a rancid one.. ...have another Wakachunga I can't engage with those who are too thick to see past themselves T, you post absolute cock and its tiring reading. Mardi is a little more tolerant than me of stupidity, I on the other hand just completely dismiss you as a total f wit. Actually I am sure Mardi does too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 11 minutes ago, barryb said: I can't engage with those who are too thick to see past themselves T, you post absolute cock and its tiring reading. Mardi is a little more tolerant than me of stupidity, I on the other hand just completely dismiss you as a total f wit. Actually I am sure Mardi does too. You keep on proving bogan is as bogan does bazz Keep smacking and I'll keep smacking you harder...that's all bogans understand ...no debate, no facts, just smack 50 plus losers and you can hack that in your punting uh? next Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardigras Posted August 17, 2018 Author Share Posted August 17, 2018 31 minutes ago, Thomass said: I matched the two you gave me....you continually with FF...which you haven't got the foggiest idea about...as you don't do unlucky I didn't give two examples about why your claim is false. You are seriously confused. You are going on about my assessment of a runner. The info I presented is unrelated to what I think of the performance of any horse. It IS the actual performance of horses in black type compared to actual times for the same track/condition/distance based on where those black type performances sat compared to all runners. I knew you didn't understand it. So I'll spell it out. Black type performers that don't run up to a level of performance(something you stated to be universal), do not perform well when racing down in grade subsequent to that black type performance. The slower, the worse the results are. Understand? No, didn't think so. Performance trumps class - and massively so. It's there - only you don't comprehend it as remedial maths is a long way off completion for you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 9 minutes ago, mardigras said: Performance trumps class - and massively so. It's there - only you don't comprehend it as remedial maths is a long way off completion for you. Read that again Thommo, along with the previous bit from mardigras that I highlighted for you since you don't understand the actual numbers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelTheFear Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 It would be easier to educate a brick wall 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 8 minutes ago, FeelTheFear said: It would be easier to educate a brick wall I just don't see how he can be so thick. Nobody agrees with him except maybe a bunch of other losing punters out there that haven't given this much thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelTheFear Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 Yes I am no longer mortar-fied by his responses. Keep up the great work, some of us are learning 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 (edited) 30 minutes ago, mardigras said: I didn't give two examples about why your claim is false. You are seriously confused. You are going on about my assessment of a runner. The info I presented is unrelated to what I think of the performance of any horse. It IS the actual performance of horses in black type compared to actual times for the same track/condition/distance based on where those black type performances sat compared to all runners. I knew you didn't understand it. So I'll spell it out. Black type performers that don't run up to a level of performance(something you stated to be universal), do not perform well when racing down in grade subsequent to that black type performance. The slower, the worse the results are. Understand? No, didn't think so. Performance trumps class - and massively so. It's there - only you don't comprehend it as remedial maths is a long way off completion for you. And you're too thick to understand the point I'm drumming into you Your stats are az fake az Kimmy Kardashians ass here You can't possibly compare NZ times on completely different tracks and correlate that to prove jot...where HQ...has an undulating slower track...yet where many Black Types are run ...Put your crazy database to work on HK's two tracks statsman ...then we may have apples with apples... until then it's all fake news...and you're too shit scared to put your NZ 'speed' stats to work on the punt ..you're a fake flake here... Performance, class and Black Type are like Blue f in cheese and crackers But you're too crackers to understand Edited August 17, 2018 by Thomass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardigras Posted August 17, 2018 Author Share Posted August 17, 2018 7 minutes ago, Thomass said: And you're too thick to understand the point I'm drumming into you You can't possibly compare NZ times on completely different tracks and correlate that to prove jot...where HQ...has an undulating slower track...yet where many Black Types are run Sorry, are you attempting to say something intelligent to me? I haven't compared NZ times on completely different tracks. Where have i done that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardigras Posted August 17, 2018 Author Share Posted August 17, 2018 On 14/08/2018 at 2:55 PM, Thomass said: Of course you cant compare times from different tracks...the above example just shows you...idiot I don't do time at all...you do... On 14/08/2018 at 4:28 PM, Thomass said: Of course each rating band has its own superior speed rating to the next... On 14/08/2018 at 9:58 PM, Thomass said: Theres stock standard times in HK. And Singapore, for example, as they move through... On 15/08/2018 at 10:39 PM, Thomass said: All punters know about universal times for each class.... That's why you hear "that was above/ below standard time" after each race on these international meetings... On 16/08/2018 at 2:41 PM, Thomass said: ..but thats why I don't use times... I use the class of race...that will negate any other variances because almost always...these superior Black Type races are run at a good clip in bigger fields...where more can go wrong.. 21 hours ago, Thomass said: 'Time' is a figment of your wild imagination 14 hours ago, Thomass said: You can't possibly compare NZ times on completely different tracks and correlate that to prove jot...where HQ...has an undulating slower track...yet where many Black Types are run ...then we may have apples with apples... Looks to me like Thomass has single-handedly argued successfully against his own stupid idea. He'd make a great lawyer - for opposing council. The performance data I put up was exactly what he wants. Apples with apples. It is based on runs in black type at a track such as Ellerslie compared to ONLY runs at Ellerslie, same condition, same distance. Where they fall outside the 'universal times' for each class at that track ONLY. There is no comparison in any of that, between a horse running at Ellerslie and a horse running at Trentham. There is no comparison between a horse running on a track rated 6 with a track rated 3. It is solely track/condition/distance based (as was mentioned - but the remedial reading class isn't helping Thomass). He doesn't do time. But he also doesn't know when a performance is outside the 'universal time' for each class. It is the funniest thing. An aside from all that, he has openly admitted he cannot in any way compare a maiden that ran over 1200m at Trentham with a maiden that ran over 1200m at Ellerslie. He just uses a dartboard when they meet. No wonder he came back on this site last night and read this thread - and didn't write anything. He's shot himself in the foot with his lack of punting knowledge. He's a novice - and a fraud. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poisoned Dwarf Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 On 16/08/2018 at 9:35 PM, Thomass said: And you're too thick to understand the point I'm drumming into you Your stats are az fake az Kimmy Kardashians ass here You can't possibly compare NZ times on completely different tracks and correlate that to prove jot...where HQ...has an undulating slower track...yet where many Black Types are run ...Put your crazy database to work on HK's two tracks statsman ...then we may have apples with apples... until then it's all fake news...and you're too shit scared to put your NZ 'speed' stats to work on the punt ..you're a fake flake here... Performance, class and Black Type are like Blue f in cheese and crackers But you're too crackers to understand 88X89 My Tommy(6g Towkay (AUS) - Love Proposal) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardigras Posted August 17, 2018 Author Share Posted August 17, 2018 (edited) Here we have a few runners today (even I Suggest!!). I can imagine the response if that wins. I've added the special indicator for black type specials. And time of race to avoid missing out! Those having performed to the universal black type level - finishing with 5L of the winner. Enjoy. Track race easterntime # runnername class black type special Te Rapa 1 12:45:00 PM 1 ASSIGN OPEN * Te Rapa 1 12:45:00 PM 2 GALLANTE OPEN * Te Rapa 1 12:45:00 PM 4 JOCHEN RINDT OPEN * Te Rapa 1 12:45:00 PM 6 YOUWANTMORE OPEN * Te Rapa 2 1:20:00 PM 2 MY GIFT BM65 Te Rapa 2 1:20:00 PM 9 PRODIGAL SON BM65 Waverley 2 1:41:00 PM 2 KOTAHI BM65 Waverley 2 1:41:00 PM 7 MISS LIZZIE BM65 Te Rapa 3 1:55:00 PM 2 HE'S CAVALIER BM82 * Te Rapa 3 1:55:00 PM 3 WAIPIPI LAD BM82 * Te Rapa 3 1:55:00 PM 4 GRAND RIO BM82 * Te Rapa 3 1:55:00 PM 5 ANGEL IN BLUEJEANS BM82 * Waverley 3 2:16:00 PM 2 TICKET CLIPPER BM72 Waverley 3 2:16:00 PM 3 NITRO TED BM72 Waverley 3 2:16:00 PM 4 EVA JENSINE BM72 Waverley 4 2:49:00 PM 2 BATABULLET BM72 Waverley 4 2:49:00 PM 3 CHOICE ATTITUDE BM72 Waverley 4 2:49:00 PM 5 BROTHER ONE BM72 Waverley 4 2:49:00 PM 6 COOL MOON BM72 Waverley 4 2:49:00 PM 8 GLORY DAYS BM72 Te Rapa 5 3:05:00 PM 2 STACCATO BM72 Te Rapa 5 3:05:00 PM 5 OHCEEDEE BM72 * Te Rapa 5 3:05:00 PM 7 GRIS DAME BM72 * Waverley 5 3:24:00 PM 2 DOLCETTO OPEN * Waverley 5 3:24:00 PM 3 LADIES FIRST OPEN * Waverley 5 3:24:00 PM 4 DUFFERS CREEK OPEN * Waverley 5 3:24:00 PM 5 RINGO OPEN * Waverley 5 3:24:00 PM 6 SAMPSON OPEN * Waverley 5 3:24:00 PM 7 DARCI MAC OPEN * Waverley 5 3:24:00 PM 8 NYMPH MONTE OPEN * Waverley 5 3:24:00 PM 9 HELLO M'LADY OPEN * Waverley 6 3:59:00 PM 1 DURHAM BM65 Waverley 6 3:59:00 PM 4 THAT'S FUNNY BM65 Waverley 6 3:59:00 PM 11 DO YA BM65 Waverley 7 4:34:00 PM 5 ONEFORTHEDITCH BM65 Waverley 7 4:34:00 PM 6 MR COOL BOY BM65 Waverley 7 4:34:00 PM 9 MASTER PATRICK BM65 Waverley 7 4:34:00 PM 11 I SUGGEST BM65 Te Rapa 8 4:50:00 PM 4 GABRIEL BM65 Te Rapa 8 4:50:00 PM 7 ARTISTE BM65 Te Rapa 8 4:50:00 PM 8 BLACK LACE BM65 Te Rapa 8 4:50:00 PM 9 PEARLESCENCE BM65 Te Rapa 8 4:50:00 PM 11 MASTER GENIE BM65 Edited August 17, 2018 by mardigras Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardigras Posted August 18, 2018 Author Share Posted August 18, 2018 Look, not the best day. 43 selections and four winners - $19.50. As for the black type specials, I think it was just an off day. 19 selections and 1 winner at $2.30. At least we have tomorrow and beyond. These results must just be a figment of my imagination. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 Wtf is this shit? Ive spent a beautiful day visiting a Gannet colony and this post has more bird/s than the 20,000 squawking feathered ones crap in a year ...while you're in the lock up tossing salad, stalking to see if I'm here... ...and incredibly...you posted this last shit just before WINX ran... Some supposed neddys I would have invested on...all a figment of your warped chemically induced mind..get help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardigras Posted August 19, 2018 Author Share Posted August 19, 2018 10 hours ago, Thomass said: Wtf is this shit? Finally we all agree. This shit is what matches your blue print for down in grade. And there is no doubt, it is shit. Good to see you catching on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryb Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 Mardi, none of the results are valid as the penotometer reading is unreliable and both the tracks have terrible bias. Not helped by the fact the jockeys seem to not know where to ride on both tracks, they go to early or too wide. Its all a little too unfair and I feel the results are best voided. Thomass’s Results are far superior and I think it’s best to just take them as being true and correct. Either that or he deliberately told us all this false information to throw us off the real trail of how he manages an incredibly high success rate. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardigras Posted August 19, 2018 Author Share Posted August 19, 2018 Yeah - success rate on here is 100% or very close to it. Legendary. Clearly he has sold us a lemon to put us off the trail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryb Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 He will be on here in a few hours with his usual Monday morning rave, it’s going to be entertaining. A few new ideas or tweaks will appear to make up for the shite results over the last 2 weeks. For a guy who is so racing mad, he seems to not spend many Saturday’s watching them or is never at the track, he’s a fraud methinks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelTheFear Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 3 hours ago, barryb said: Mardi, none of the results are valid as the penotometer reading is unreliable and both the tracks have terrible bias. Not helped by the fact the jockeys seem to not know where to ride on both tracks, they go to early or too wide. Its all a little too unfair and I feel the results are best voided. Thomass’s Results are far superior and I think it’s best to just take them as being true and correct. Either that or he deliberately told us all this false information to throw us off the real trail of how he manages an incredibly high success rate. To be fair, Mr T. will claim only 4 horses met his personal criteria...the 4 winners 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 5 hours ago, mardigras said: Finally we all agree. This shit is what matches your blue print for down in grade. And there is no doubt, it is shit. Good to see you catching on. The problem is your mental condition of being obcessed with moi.. Compulsive obcessive disorder... ...includes stalking posters to see when they're on and off the site...and then ignoring champions like WINX... ...2 minutes before the start...so you can post your drivel... Go for a walk...get a new hobby...then change the meds...the present ones ain't doing the job Dont make it the Whakachunga med bogan Bazz is on though... ...the sheet that comes from his mouth needs to go through the oxidation ponds... ..and even then it'll still be sheet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardigras Posted August 20, 2018 Author Share Posted August 20, 2018 Pretty sure I can do more than one thing at a time. As for you, I knew you had totally screwed yourself as usual. I come on here to reinforce it due to you actually thinking you know things about punting. NZ racing is having enough difficulty attracting punters without reading your crap. Black type blah blah blah. You're full of it. Shit that is. You love stats. Cos you're stupid. Would you like the stats from just Black Type HQ performances? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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