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14 minutes ago, Thomass said:

Wtf...wake up can't you follow?

Moi...."It's already in NSW hesi...

22 tracks around NSW are hooked up to Swiss Precision Timing...GPS in saddle cloths I believe 

 Get da app asap"

Hesi

"Thanks, is it available on desktop"

actually I had you blocked so only saw Hesi's post. I'll take back the accusation. 

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1 hour ago, Thomass said:

Your nich spears to be country hick meetings in obscure places like Naramine

Your complete lack of knowledge on things European for example is telling...

There is no surprise in the fact you have everything wrong.

I bet most in UK/Ire. Then Australian metro racing. Then Australian other racing. And almost never NZ. It should be obvious why - but not to you.

You are about the only person on this entire site who claims to be knowledgeable - but is incapable of putting even one horse up before it races. That is all we need to know Mr Fraud.

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Your total lack of perspecuity is having a perfidious pernicious affect on this site...

Ill be recommending to management you should be banned forthwith...

You have a litany of lies behind your monikers...to be claiming things like "racing wide without cover is no problem..just look at Harness..and Europe"

...consigns you to 'dunce' class...read Harness and Hounds...

..take up one of those two hobbies maybe...they accept stalkers, obsessive compulsives, morons...and bogans...take Bogan Bazz with you

god speed

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18 minutes ago, Thomass said:

Your total lack of perspecuity is having a perfidious pernicious affect on this site...

Ill be recommending to management you should be banned forthwith...

You have a litany of lies behind your monikers...to be claiming things like "racing wide without cover is no problem..just look at Harness..and Europe"

My points are very clear. Even though you can't understand them.

And I don't believe 3 wide is any worse than on the fence. Each have potential positive and negative aspects, which over time when assessing the ability of a horse will be just issues unworthy of consideration - since you'd have to make 'something' up for every single horse, for every single race. 

You can recommend what you like. Please do. No sane person would trust your recommendations to be of any use - the same way your punting recommendations aren't of any use.

You listen to all the people on the TV paid to present, trainers paid to train and jockeys paid to ride.

And you think those professions mean they know what it takes to be able to punt well. 

That says it all. Gullible and stupid.

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1 hour ago, mardigras said:

My points are very clear. Even though you can't understand them.

And I don't believe 3 wide is any worse than on the fence. Each have potential positive and negative aspects, which over time when assessing the ability of a horse will be just issues unworthy of consideration - since you'd have to make 'something' up for every single horse, for every single race. 

You can recommend what you like. Please do. No sane person would trust your recommendations to be of any use - the same way your punting recommendations aren't of any use.

You listen to all the people on the TV paid to present, trainers paid to train and jockeys paid to ride.

And you think those professions mean they know what it takes to be able to punt well. 

That says it all. Gullible and stupid.

Your legitimacy is Trumpesque...

You make up your own rules and if those rules don't telly with yours "it's a fluke if you win"

John Wheeler, Pike and McEvoy weren't commenting on punting but making observations from years of professional experience...

...yet you said they were "wrong"

You're one of a kind...a chup off the old block...Walter Mitty you is

Here enter this if you're so much better than those Pros...just don't film the Vid in your day wear of soiled y fronts and holy undies...in the lock up

https://www.punters.com.au/content/comp/

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1 hour ago, Thomass said:

Your legitimacy is Trumpesque...

You make up your own rules and if those rules don't telly with yours "it's a fluke if you win"

John Wheeler, Pike and McEvoy weren't commenting on punting but making observations from years of professional experience...

...yet you said they were "wrong"

You're one of a kind...a chup off the old block...Walter Mitty you is

Here enter this if you're so much better than those Pros...just don't film the Vid in your day wear of soiled y fronts and holy undies...in the lock up

https://www.punters.com.au/content/comp/

Unfortunately, they've banned me.

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1 hour ago, Thomass said:

 

You make up your own rules and if those rules don't telly with yours "it's a fluke if you win"

You clearly never tire of making stuff up.

There are any number of ways of winning at punting. I'm sure other people like barryb doesn't do the same as me. 

I don't suggest they fluke things.

All I do is state what simply cannot be used. The things you do. They are not related because you are applying population based ideas to an individual horse. 

That is flawed. If you had managed to achieve a  quarter of an education, you would realise that by now after explaining why that is so.

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In your very f in humble opinion you mean

..and f me you've got a lot to be humble about...

Only a complete moron would ignore Black Type race form...and use purely time..

Breeders have been Catologuing Black Type over 'mile' rates since Queen Vic was in nappies...sucking a wet nurses teet...like you still do

...call that population based if you want...Experts call it FORM ANALYSIS 

..then you were horribly exposed when one of the very few examples you've ever given of 'time' over Black Type...

...proved you haven't the foggiest...

Your ideas are so flawed ...you don't even invest here...

'Caught without cover' is beyond your already limited vocab..

Just stick to the Hounds here with their times...

hope that helps 

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3 minutes ago, Thomass said:

In your very f in humble opinion you mean

..and f me you've got a lot to be humble about...

Only a complete moron would ignore Black Type race form...and use purely time..

Breeders have been Catologuing Black Type over 'mile' rates since Queen Vic was in nappies...sucking a wet nurses teet...like you still do

...call that population based if you want...Experts call it FORM ANALYSIS 

I haven't offered an opinion on your methods. 

I don't ignore Black Type form. I ignore the class of the race, the performance is not ignored. I have already provided solid evidence that the time is the key ingredient to future success. You ignored it because you didn't understand it. And then made some comment to prove you didn't understand it when you went on about performances at HQ where more Black Type races are run.

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6 hours ago, mardigras said:

 

And I don't believe 3 wide is any worse than on the fence. 

I think it depends on the pattern of racing

Often there is an inside bias When Winx won one of her Cox Plate there was a clear inside bias the first 3 followed the rail home

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Just now, Ghost said:

I think it depends on the pattern of racing

Often there is an inside bias When Winx won one of her Cox Plate there was a clear inside bias the first 3 followed the rail home

We're not talking individual events. We're talking the notion that 3 wide without cover is a negative. I disagree. It might be in some races. Might not be in others. And might have no impact in others.

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3 hours ago, mardigras said:

We're not talking individual events. We're talking the notion that 3 wide without cover is a negative. I disagree. It might be in some races. Might not be in others. And might have no impact in others.

It goes without saying you clown...

Nothing in Racing is ALWAYS 100%...that's why you do 1600 simulations per race..

To find out a slow maiden is faster than a black type performer..in your simulated dreams..

next

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2 hours ago, mardigras said:

Thousands of posts and we maybe getting somewhere. 

 

You constantly use the word "generally"

You still hide behind your thumbnail sketches though..

..and produced the slowest maiden of the day against a black type performer...

...after 1600 simulations

fy ignorant I...it's obviously easier racing without cover when there's no pace on...

...maybe you should try 2k sims and introduce 'cop the f on' 

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12 hours ago, mardigras said:

We're not talking individual events. We're talking the notion that 3 wide without cover is a negative. I disagree. It might be in some races. Might not be in others. And might have no impact in others.

I wasn’t talking about individual events nor was I disagreeing with you  Passabache raced 3 wide facing the breeze and went onto win 

Watching the first race how it unfolds can be a huge advantage whether you think the tracks playing true

 

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1 hour ago, Ghost said:

I wasn’t talking about individual events nor was I disagreeing with you  Passabache raced 3 wide facing the breeze and went onto win 

Watching the first race how it unfolds can be a huge advantage whether you think the tracks playing true

 

In her case, she was racing as they do in the States...avoiding kickback

It worked that day as the others were probably lining up post race to get their eyes washed out as John Bell suggested...

...but don't listen to Mardi grass...

Every Australiasian race analyst knows 3 "wide without cover" is a negative..almost always 

...but he disagrees

idiot

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2 hours ago, Thomass said:

You constantly use the word "generally"

...after 1600 simulations

fy ignorant I...it's obviously easier racing without cover when there's no pace on...

...maybe you should try 2k sims and introduce 'cop the f on' 

Generally. Nothing wrong using the word. Just using it as the basis for assessing chance of a horse is where it is flawed.

I don't do 1600 simulations. I do 1500. I used to do 5000. But the resulting chance assessment didn't vary to any degree so saved time by doing less. Thanks for your recommendation anyway.

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