Reefton

Listen halfwit Those connections obviously come with the equipment not from the warehouse. As for smart arse comments about Reefton being the only place with the expertise well Reefton has had some(not a lot) experience with these things where it is clear you have had zero The fact is there was a false start caused by the connection being either faulty or loose(or as I suggested perhaps the battery(s) being somewhat depleted). You have created some mass cover up conspiracy by NZTR/the WRC and continued to wank on about a theory with zero substance An idiot like you who can see something in nothing would be an ideal person to take up a role with the RIB alongside Oatham and Clement. They too are too thick to see reality. Anyway since I have essentially now finished with the game, save for retaining half legs of a couple of nags, I need to finish wasting time with chat sites so it is goodbye from me.

Yes but with a marginal connection between the sets it adds up to me If the connection was completely broken maybe not but if there was still a connection then inadequate power between the two ..... The bloke who looks after ours(who runs a trucking firm so knows about mechanics) always talks about how hard those gates are on batteries

Cannot see where I said it was expensive or that it probably won't fix the issue. What I said was when you have to raise the funds yourself(as we did) it gives you quite an incentive to look after and value what you have. As far as saying it won't fix the issue well you have to have starting gates. Are you wanting them to go back to flag starts? While you have them there will always be a risk of failure but there is a risk of failure with every electronic or mechanical item in life. I have no doubt it will be expensive but do you think they should blindly go on with the status quo and risk it happening again? I did suggest that, it line with what Curious has said, it is possibly a combination of batteries getting down on charge and a loose connection that may have been responsible. I remember arriving at Reefton the day before the races one year and the gates were right beside the Secretaries office with a power wire running to them. When I asked why I got the grumpy response that the previous club had not put the batteries straight on charge after their last race.

See that is an example of your ignorance. If you don't maintain these things things go wrong. That's how we had the old manual set for forty years with not one false start(and they used to do twelve meetings a year not three like now). Because we ensured they were housed and looked after. And that is why these current set will last forever as well - because they are looked after. Unlike all these other mobs we had to find the cold hard cash so we are very careful to look after what we have. When we(the RJC Committee) assembled the new gates the Sim Track guy commented on how he had never had a set go together so quickly and smoothly. The difference is we were doing it for love not for a pay packet at the end of the week. That's why we produce top quality track surfaces every time(despite what that imbecile Oatham and his mate Clement might believe). Because we care. And I can tell you once those batteries have had a days use they need recharged because it drains them. This strikes me as a classic case of a combination of a battery draining and perhaps(as Curious said) a connection between sets that had worked slightly loose And that covers your 'these aren't old and overused' comment as well

More than once I have offered to sort their dates(in the South at least) Every time ignored

I know ours are very sensitive about battery power(don't let it get low!) and they are only a small set so that might also be contributing if the connection is at all compromised

The things aren't brand new. If they didn't work straight off the shelf it would be different. Maybe they are not as well looked after as, say, ours are(we have a shed at Reefton that they fit nicely into for 11.5 months of the year. They will come out New Year's day or the day after, be checked for flat batteries or other issues and be back in there ten days later) Curious is clearly in the know on what happened and his explanation seems totally plausible

fixing the issue or finding out what the real problems is????????????? Clearly the real problem is unreliable supplementary gate sets and to fix the issue they are obtaining bigger sets of gates. Can't see a conspiracy or even a mystery there. NZTR have taken immediate and definitive action How many times have the extensions failed to open? No idea but it is not unknown for a gate in the main sets not to open or to open slowly. I think the supplementary sets might have stayed closed at Riverton a few years ago(could be wrong) Are you talking about WINX? Kawi. They could have loaded Winx two hours before and she would still have thumped them

They would have a cheek expecting to sell them given NZTR probably paid for them. Insofar as I know we are the only people in NZ who brought our own. Given the way they appeared to go together it may be possible to just add an extra three or four in the middle(if they are like the Simtrack sets)

I'm past caring about the industry but tell me what are the rats you smell? From where I sit they have had an incident of starting gate malfunction where there was a supplementary set in use. Unfortunately during a group one race. NZTR have put in place temporary measures to try to prevent a recurrence until they can resolve the net for supplementary sets. I don't think I can smell too many rats in that Go back a few years when a multiple group one winner was always allowed to be last into the gates in Group one's or when a certain prominent stable used to use barrier blankets to ensure their horses entered the gates last. Now there I smell something of a rat.

ya forgot the best racing province in NZ!

Well when we wanted a set they were available immediately. Mind you that was a long time ago. What took the longest was the freight and, in our case, organising the money. We ordered them in February and(I think) got them in November but that was because they held them for us for many months. But having been actively involved in assembling them(bloody interesting) they came in two lots of six. I imagine that they would just put another six section in the middle. Who knows they may be able to put a four in the middle of the (14) sets they have now. They connect with bloody big bolts. Ours being twelve we can transport them on a truck(as do the Otago Southland ones) but an eighteen would be too much I would say. Without knowing I would say Steriline(made the Ellerslie and Riccarton Gates) and Simtrack(from what I can see most of the rest of us) are probably constantly making up sets as once again I imagine the demand in Aussie is quite constant. Its not NZTR's fault that this happened nor did anyone at the WRC intentionally do it. Mistakes occur and you make moves to prevent them happening again. There are far worse things happening in NZ racing than this(bad look as it may be)

Bit of over reaction there guys. Clearly they are going to buy 18 horse sets for these tracks and the reduction to 14 is temporary. Riccarton has an 18 horse set so they will be available. Add Dunedin to that list of tracks needing new sets as well. Of course I could regurgitate the fact that the Coast had to buy their own gates and it appears NZTR are going to stump up for these but perhaps I have done that to death? Whatever happens and who's ever fault Saturday was(I didn't see it) it was a bad look for NZ Racing in a G1 race.

Yeah lack of foresight in spending that dosh on a track where people only go a couple of times a year(and 90% of them would have no idea there was an actual racemeeting on)

That's an NZTR release this morning The STC clearly realises it has assets(Rosehill) that are not returning anything like a decent return on their value. Here's our man Cameron congratulating them on the move. Cameron Cameron Cameron can you not see how stupid this makes NZ racing look? Why don't you cash up that Ellerslie dump (and Riccarton, Te Rapa and several more) and use the massive amounts of cash resulting to sort NZ Racing out? Don't say you can't enforce this seizure of clubs assets because the Racing Act gives you the exact power to do so. I've been on and on and on about this for absolute years - NZ Racing is chocka with underperforming assets(ie the property assets of the major clubs) Massive upheaval for Rosehill though. I guess a Rosehill trainer who owns his property will be able to join in the windfall