The Centaur

Interesting industry. Sort of industry racing could combine with. e.g. display over the Riccarton carnival but do a deal to display or promote at any meeting. I note there was a tiny homes expo at Mystery Creek around Nov 1 2025. Are clubs too greedy they don't go for these mini expos? Can't find any race sponsors for tiny homes or cabins. Trainers and stud owners for one could be a market,

What's with Col and tiny homes?

I'm intrigued by your reference to Des's jackpot. Memory not that good. Could that be Des Coppins? As for Des Coppins I think even though he is getting on racing can still benefit from his expertise say in linking racing to tourism sponsorship. Des organized the Melbourne Cup expeditions. I note someone on the new NZTR regime has been in Tourism therefore a scheme whereby syndication overseas encourages tourists into NZ visiting the trainer and local enterprises and thus making links. Otherwise the tourist would only pass through the location perhaps only getting to know the barmaid.

Totally agree in fact every Saturday even some mid week meetings should have an expo element to it. Example January month is a promotional month for the educational sector. Some areas good for tourism others good for a tiny version of Fieldays. OK some clubs try to do something but it really it has to have a head office structure making it easier for club officials to approach businesses.

Yes I remember the Ellerslie expo. Was an exhibitor there and actually got Telecom sponsorship as they were about to embrace the internet. Bevan Allen the owner of Red Tempo I think was the organiser.

Yes doing a quick survey like the NSW website they have obviously decided the clean approach is best with no reference to the Punters Intelligence app which always meets with some obstacle to download and install. Yet all the push for the screen clutter data comes from NSW sources with great fanfare but then little enthusiasm afterwards

ENTAIN are already scaling back some of its "initiatives" made in haste. Now if this latest "initiative" produces data then make the raw data freely available so people can do what they like with it such as feed it into a spread sheet. ENTAIN head office should be driving turnover not doubling up on functions the responsibilty of NZTR or private enterprise. That applies to the myriad of "tipsters" at ENTAIN & NZTR as there seems little effort into promoting businesses and sponsors.

Cost is the relevant factor. All the propaganda about the Trackside system being state of the art is bull****. Singapore racing had the system a dozen or so years ago. AI can now view a race preferably in HD and translate the colours from a frame into names and even when the colours are similar with a little human intervention can decide which is which. Why bother with GPS and all that if it is too pricey. Many years ago NZTR decided it was too expensive so I assume now it is realistic. If not that means a few dollars less for stake money.

Some of your logic is plain silly. I don't want to waste time responding. However a few points. Auckland should have view figures for the sectional pages generated from the Triple etc system.. Bookies i.e. odds settors do spend considerable effort doing the form. Fail to see what relevance sectional times have in jumpouts. So its a waste of time for example owners getting info from trainers. How silly of me to think otherwise.

H'mm ..over 40 non winners beforehand. I guess patience is the name of the game.

Some Hong Kong replays and the Ellerslie ones are clean videos i.e. no numbers on them. And indeed when Hong Kong replays do have the numbers the viewer still has to figure out the name of the horses. THe best and most efficient info is the in the running 4 still images of Hong Kong races after the event.

The more complicated racing gets the more punters will disappear because they figure there is no edge or more importantly don't have the time to do research. Neither will they take someone's word for it. They will also figure the bookie has mulled over this info so definitely no edge for the punter and unlike the bookie the punter doesn't have the time. Now if TAB wants to drive turnover pay the trackwork watchers to report and pass on quotes from the trainers.

Sorry Chief. Didn't see you had started thread already. Add the post there if you can. AS for cost don't know. However the Hong Kong system negligible on top of NZTR sectionals already produced.

When watching a live race the viewer is not really interested in the mountain of stats and timing. Post race then a case can be made. However the idea plonking all these chips onto saddles or jockeys generating useless information might be attractive to a very small few but will do nothing to attract new turnover. The cost has to be queried along with different methods obtaining relevant data. https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/racing/new-graphics-part-of-tabs-long-term-plans-to-educate-punters/GJY3YNTBPVHDFCE7ZTO2DVNU44/ The Hong Kong images are simple and easily understood and something similar can be used in NZ at little cost.

The rush to sell land must be questioned against the desire of CEO's to keep their jobs or salary. I question the Ellerslie back straight selloff (not the hill) where the steeplechasers used to go. That could have been incorporated into a new configuration. Awapuni troubles can't be helped by selling land where banking of the existing track could have taken place. Similarly Avondale but that seems a dead duck. I am always surprised at UK racing where all you see is green space yet the population is more than 10 times that of New Zealand with similar land area.