Chief Stipe Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 2 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: I made that point above when referring to the NZTR document. Seems if @TAB For Ever is correct there must be track managmemt plan (Strategy?). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doomed Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 56 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: Plus the current architects of this strategy will be long gone. George has already jumped ship. That is something I keep meaning to ask. Someone must know. Who is pushing this strategy? Is it Entain? And has NZTR just rolled over and said "It's your money, do what you like." Or is it NZTR, and if so who? There must be an architect. Perhaps its the breeders. Perhaps it's the trainers assoc. Perhaps the owners. We know it isn't the jockeys because 6 of the northerners were happy enough to head down to Riccarton today to race in small $17,000 races. Some of them for only a couple of mounts, so obviously stakes don't really matter to the jockeys. I have always assumed it must be one influential person at NZTR and the board with no racing knowledge are stupid enough to go along with it, knowing, as mentioned above, that most of them will be long gone when it all goes belly up. Unless it goes belly up even quicker than we expect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAB For Ever Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 4 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: Seems if @TAB For Ever is correct there must be track managmemt plan (Strategy?). Wow...did you catch me out Chief ,find a little typo or something. I got diverted by harness question , more than you trying to trip me up ! Actually Murray asked me a direct question earlier and as he clearly off beat I tried to answer that....and as well as going by BSharrocks 12 minute interview on weigh in I overlayed my experience from former roles in sports organisations . Even some of your more regular posters don't seem to understand that the CEO doesn't rule the roost and make all the decisions. He usually working thru a plan that is made up from the Boards strategic plan. But I guess we have to blame someone......we have hated and criticised all the Pommis ,Aussies and Non-racing folk who have got head roles in our RNZTR/TAB organisation. Then along comes Sharrock...a good Kiwi sportsman ,from strong racing blood ,with skin in the game......quite new in the role but now it's him in the firing line. I thought he spoke very well , knows whats going on , what needs fixing and has a bit of money so is doing the best he can to improve things. Apart from the odd cancellation ,I been enjoying racing since COVID,. But I think it a mistake to be giving a lifeline to Avondale....IMO should be sold ,it a shit hole , let courts decide who gets the $$$ ,if racing gets a big chunk build the new racing greenfields near Hamilton ! But I'm not gonna bang on about Avondale ,I had a few good wins there ! In the meanwhile I still on my soup ...read your Document later....geez this soup is endless ,I now drinking it in the Shower ,it will never end ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAB For Ever Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 (edited) 12 hours ago, Chief Stipe said: Please find attached the Summer Racing Revitalisation Strategic Plan for 2024/25 (I'm not sure you can call it a Strategic Plan for such as short timespan...anyway). I assume you have read it. Do you agree that the focus is on increased Stakes? Do you also agree that there is nothing in this strategic plan that addresses the fundamental issues? The biggest issue is getting horse numbers up - not to mention that most of this racing is going to occur on compromised tracks. The strategy seems to be, and you seem to agree with it, is that if stakes are increased and we have more and more limited entry novelty races plus increased top tier stakes the horse numbers will come. FINAL Strategic Summer Calendar Doc.pdf 9.32 MB · 4 downloads Get with the program Chief. The document is merely the latest updated Marketing Plan....all the plans are live documents being updated regularly. Reading the correct documents you would have noted that the 3 x key strategies were.. 1.Tracks and Infrastructure 2. Wagering and Participation 3.Marketing As BSharrock emphasised Tracks are at the top of the list ......top priority. The document to read is the Statement of Intent and Business Plan 2024-2026. After governance and regulatory stuff it gets into the 5 x Strategic Areas of Action 1.Industry training and enhancing the welfare of people and horses 2.Enhancing track surface performance for better racing outcomes 3.Accountability for performance among clubs .....{ making Clubs take some ownership ,in preparation of decent racing surface at all times } And the latest Annual report dedicates a page to each of the 3 x key Strategies headed by Track and Infrastructure ,so it been out there a while ! Bloody brilliant ....the money is there ,the will is there and in a year or two all your dreams will be realised...how do you intend getting amongst it ? Only too pleased to point you in right direction , it gonna be good. Now preparing for a big night of fantastic Group Harness racing ! Edited May 2 by TAB For Ever Spelling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 1 hour ago, TAB For Ever said: Get with the program Chief. The document is merely the latest updated Marketing Plan....all the plans are live documents being updated regularly. Reading the correct documents you would have noted that the 3 x key strategies were.. 1.Tracks and Infrastructure 2. Wagering and Participation 3.Marketing As BSharrock emphasised Tracks are at the top of the list ......top priority. The document to read is the Statement of Intent and Business Plan 2024-2026. After governance and regulatory stuff it gets into the 5 x Strategic Areas of Action 1.Industry training and enhancing the welfare of people and horses 2.Enhancing track surface performance for better racing outcomes 3.Accountability for performance among clubs .....{ making Clubs take some ownership ,in preparation of decent racing surface at all times } And the latest Annual report dedicates a page to each of the 3 x key Strategies headed by Track and Infrastructure ,so it been out there a while ! Bloody brilliant ....the money is there ,the will is there and in a year or two all your dreams will be realised...how do you intend getting amongst it ? Only too pleased to point you in right direction , it gonna be good. Now preparing for a big night of fantastic Group Harness racing ! Ellerslie worked out well. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assange Posted May 3 Share Posted May 3 20 hours ago, TAB For Ever said: But never assume things Chief.......I am currently in Harness mode [ some great racing happening ,and about to get better ] with an eye on Jumps racing as well.......you can't state that I seem to agree with things when you have no knowledge but want to stretch out a discussion.ie you want to bang on about the same old stuff. Currently I having Soup and toast but after that I'll try and work out your queries about some Summer Plan. Where I am we heading into winter. Stuffed tracks ,compromised tracks ,unsafe tracks , closed tracks ,synthetic tracks ....you all about tracks ,I get it. Watching BSharrock on TV and the few times I've heard him he gives Tracks the first mention, his top of mind. Number One ahead of Stakes even. In 12 mins he talked of every NZ track getting at least renovations carried out.He said they gotta improve .Most been neglected for decades[ I said that], not one decent track surface in NZ[ Messara said that] .BSharrock said it his nimber one challenge hence invest ,invest ,invest ! He investing heavily in tracks with new machinery but in particular people. More people and upskilling them too. Plus a new level of management [ costly too I guess] so the audits of them will be more often and more realistic.......this is a job for you I feel ,I'm sure he has no one as capable as you to oversee the tracks. He all over tracks Chief.....you will have to revert to banging on about something else. I'll check the significance of your Document later. My soup is going cold. I would have thought that investing in tracks would be more important than investing in more management. Probably cheaper too. All we seem to get is a more flowery report on why our tracks are stuffed. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAB For Ever Posted May 3 Share Posted May 3 2 hours ago, Assange said: I would have thought that investing in tracks would be more important than investing in more management. Probably cheaper too. All we seem to get is a more flowery report on why our tracks are stuffed. Same thing..investing in training of people to work on,maintain and check on tracks seems good thing to do. It just a shame that those who know best how to maintain surfaces in NZ climate and soil conditions are working on golf courses , sports grounds ,parks and reserves,farming , agriculture or banging away on the internet like us ! And really any National body who is relying on Clubs to keep the standards high needs to get involved more especially with the basics ...a bit of money should help to that end ! Messaras report wasn't flowery and it didn't cost much. He said there wasn't ONE decent track surface in NZ. Money began to be spent but unfortunately it hasn't been spent well . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloke Posted May 3 Share Posted May 3 20 minutes ago, TAB For Ever said: Same thing..investing in training of people to work on,maintain and check on tracks seems good thing to do. It just a shame that those who know best how to maintain surfaces in NZ climate and soil conditions are working on golf courses , sports grounds ,parks and reserves,farming , agriculture or banging away on the internet like us ! And really any National body who is relying on Clubs to keep the standards high needs to get involved more especially with the basics ...a bit of money should help to that end ! Messaras report wasn't flowery and it didn't cost much. He said there wasn't ONE decent track surface in NZ. Money began to be spent but unfortunately it hasn't been spent well . Hey TAB on a more important subject, have you managed to get out of the shower yet? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted May 3 Share Posted May 3 8 minutes ago, Bloke said: Hey TAB on a more important subject, have you managed to get out of the shower yet? He's still drinking soup...probably through a straw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted May 3 Share Posted May 3 32 minutes ago, TAB For Ever said: Messaras report wasn't flowery and it didn't cost much. He said there wasn't ONE decent track surface in NZ. As Goebbels said if you are going to tell a lie make it a big one. There were heaps 9f decent race track surfaces in New Zealand and that's with a narrow definition of "decent"! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAB For Ever Posted May 3 Share Posted May 3 7 hours ago, Bloke said: Hey TAB on a more important subject, have you managed to get out of the shower yet? I knew someone would enjoy that....it's an oldie but a goodie ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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