Brodie Posted Friday at 03:25 AM Share Posted Friday at 03:25 AM Is anyone seeing any merit in Methven running these mobile miles and 1700m stands? Miss away and you have got no chance! Personally think they are doing nothing to attract interest in harness racing. Seriously what is it with these Harness clubs thinking that they are doing the harness racing industry by programming these very short distance races? Are they under instructions to program them from HRNZ or what other reason could there be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westview Posted Friday at 09:17 AM Share Posted Friday at 09:17 AM 5 hours ago, Brodie said: Is anyone seeing any merit in Methven running these mobile miles and 1700m stands? Miss away and you have got no chance! Personally think they are doing nothing to attract interest in harness racing. Seriously what is it with these Harness clubs thinking that they are doing the harness racing industry by programming these very short distance races? Are they under instructions to program them from HRNZ or what other reason could there be? Wouldn't it be outrageous if mile racing actually suited some horse's and gave the owners a chance of actually winning something? Nah why cater for them at all. What do you actually think all the American bred stallions we are using produce . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted Friday at 06:55 PM Author Share Posted Friday at 06:55 PM 9 hours ago, Westview said: Wouldn't it be outrageous if mile racing actually suited some horse's and gave the owners a chance of actually winning something? Nah why cater for them at all. What do you actually think all the American bred stallions we are using produce . Thats the issue I am pointing out Westview! It does suit some horses racing over these short distances, but difficult for the punter! The problem is that if you miss away then you have no chance and yesterdays racing showed that clearly. Anyway, it is the Clubs that make up the program and if they think it is going to attract betting more on these short races than the middle distance, then so be it! How was the turnover yesterday and was the crowd very large? Personally believe there are some decisions that are made that are not in the best interests of the Clubs for turnover and profit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westview Posted Saturday at 02:03 AM Share Posted Saturday at 02:03 AM 7 hours ago, Brodie said: Thats the issue I am pointing out Westview! It does suit some horses racing over these short distances, but difficult for the punter! The problem is that if you miss away then you have no chance and yesterdays racing showed that clearly. Anyway, it is the Clubs that make up the program and if they think it is going to attract betting more on these short races than the middle distance, then so be it! How was the turnover yesterday and was the crowd very large? Personally believe there are some decisions that are made that are not in the best interests of the Clubs for turnover and profit. Well with significantly lower stakes and starting earlier in the afternoon the turnover was bigger than Auckland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted Saturday at 02:53 AM Author Share Posted Saturday at 02:53 AM 46 minutes ago, Westview said: Well with significantly lower stakes and starting earlier in the afternoon the turnover was bigger than Auckland To be fair that would not be hard to beat! Auckland fields and racing doesnt entice too many to offload, been saying that for a long time. Stake money doesnt affect the punter, it is the horses and the type of race and odds set. Auckland battles in all 3 of those departments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spatchcock Posted Sunday at 09:07 PM Share Posted Sunday at 09:07 PM The issue here is Brodie couldn't find easy ways to make money on the punt, so he's not happy. it was a twilight meeting catering to horses mostly rated R40 or less. Newsflash - most of them are not much good. If you race like with like (as this meeting did), it's harder to find favourites, meaning more attractive prices and hopefully, incentivising people to bet. If the turnover doesn't turn out to be much good (and with the placement of the meeting, it's possible), it still served to put money in the pockets of owners of many valuable horses to the racing pool in the country. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted Monday at 05:31 AM Share Posted Monday at 05:31 AM (edited) On 2/11/2024 at 7:55 AM, Brodie said: It does suit some horses racing over these short distances, but difficult for the punter! Keep investing chap, it could be your road to unrestrictedness. Edited Monday at 05:32 AM by Rangatira Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted Monday at 06:58 AM Author Share Posted Monday at 06:58 AM (edited) 9 hours ago, Spatchcock said: The issue here is Brodie couldn't find easy ways to make money on the punt, so he's not happy. it was a twilight meeting catering to horses mostly rated R40 or less. Newsflash - most of them are not much good. If you race like with like (as this meeting did), it's harder to find favourites, meaning more attractive prices and hopefully, incentivising people to bet. If the turnover doesn't turn out to be much good (and with the placement of the meeting, it's possible), it still served to put money in the pockets of owners of many valuable horses to the racing pool in the country. Yes I didnt bother offloading at Methven, as just couldnt find anything worth the effort for the return and the distance of the races are not what I believe are needed. At the end of the day doesnt affect Brodie personally at all as a punter, more worried about whether it is good for harness racing in general, to keep the harness racing viable. Great that some different owners got money whereas they may not have over longer distances, and we need to retain the existing owners. Nigel Armstrong in his interviews post race ask winning owners about other horses they have raced and whether they are breeding horses! Many times you can gauge that they are scaling back on owning and breeding horses , and without owners and PUNTERS there is not going to be a product! If these mile races or 1700m stands are that good then lets have them each and every week? Edited Monday at 06:59 AM by Brodie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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