kaikoura meetings

[the galah]

There was a story on the hrnz website discussing this years turnovers.

it noted turnover was down from 2.53 million in 2023 to 2.265 this year.

it quoted brad steele,head man at hrnz,who said they had modelling which said it can be a 3 million dollar turnover 2 day meeting.

then he went on to say the numbers were ok,but they needed to attract more and that putting a camber on the bend was one way of doing so.

So where did the modelled 3 million figure come from.

Sounds like a john allen type prediction.

In my opinion this is just more,pick a figure from the air,talk that you get from current leadership.

And where is the evidence that putting a camber on the bend would help attract any more starters or generate any more turnover.

Thats like saying,the nz cup being worth a million,instead of $631,000,will generate more turnover. Like,you can have the same field,but the stake is higher so punters will bet more.There are people at hrnz that think like that.

Just for the record the 2022 nz trotting cup was worth $631,000 and turned over 2.1 million whereas the 2024 was worth 1,000,000 and turned over 1.8 million.Both had 2 starters from australia.Actually no horse that started in the cup 2 years ago,started this year.

i mean,do people actually believe some of the things they read coming out of hrnz and do those at hrnz actually believe it?

Kaikoura may be HRNZ's focus,but what about what they allowed the methven club to do ,when methven shafted those that support them at their  just a couple of days before kaikoura.

That was very poor form by the methven club,yet methven do it every year.

Just look at the stakes this week at methven when they have to compete against motukarara for horses.

Methven non win stakes 25% more than their meeting in november.

reality is thats yet another example of HRNZ talking the talk,thinking people are stupid enough not to realise that to gain something often comes with a price to others. Maybe hrnz is right and they can fool a lot of people with all their positive talk.

HRNZ went full crow on the turnover figures for this years nz cup meeting. Fair enough,it was great to see the increase that was good if you compared them to 2023. But for perspective, then the 2023 figures had been down on the 2022 figures. The 2022 cup meeting turnover was actually greater than 2024.

Edited November 25 by the galah

[the galah]

2 hours ago, the galah said:

 

Just look at the stakes this week at methven when they have to compete against motukarara for horses.

Methven non win stakes 25% more than their meeting in november.

 

This weeks stakes at methven for non win horses i think you could view in 2 different ways.

It highlights Methven can often reward those that support them, if they put their minds to it. So well done to them this week.

but also,isn't methvens varying stakes an example of double standards of how they treat  the akaroa club and the kaikoura clubs?

Then again,maybe no one,apart from those who won the non winners races in november actually care.I don't think punters care,hrnz obviously doesn't. Maybe its all just another symptom of an industry with double standards,which i often point out.

Edited November 25 by the galah

[Westview]

13 hours ago, the galah said:

This weeks stakes at methven for non win horses i think you could view in 2 different ways.

It highlights Methven can often reward those that support them, if they put their minds to it. So well done to them this week.

but also,isn't methvens varying stakes an example of double standards of how they treat  the akaroa club and the kaikoura clubs?

Then again,maybe no one,apart from those who won the non winners races in november actually care.I don't think punters care,hrnz obviously doesn't. Maybe its all just another symptom of an industry with double standards,which i often point out.

As we all know Kaikoura struggle for numbers on both their day's, in a effort to elevate the problem Methven targeted low rating horses,  ran race's over short distances,  gave the option to Kaikoura to close off their fields before Methven, reduced stakes. I'm not really sure what else we could do other than not racing on the Friday night but where would all the horses go that wouldn't get a start. There is currently a hrnz survey out to find out why  trainers don't what to race there they should be asking the owners as well in my opinion  but unfortunately they don't seem to get consulted on anything. 

[the galah]

6 hours ago, Westview said:

As we all know Kaikoura struggle for numbers on both their day's, in a effort to elevate the problem Methven targeted low rating horses,  ran race's over short distances,  gave the option to Kaikoura to close off their fields before Methven, reduced stakes. I'm not really sure what else we could do other than not racing on the Friday night but where would all the horses go that wouldn't get a start. There is currently a hrnz survey out to find out why  trainers don't what to race there they should be asking the owners as well in my opinion  but unfortunately they don't seem to get consulted on anything. 

It took a bit of extracting,but youv'e given me the answer that i was sure was there.

that is,methven went out of their way to assist the kaikoura club run a successful meeting, by attracting greater numbers.

In other words,methven always want to support those that support them,by paying good stakes, but after discussions with hrnz they did what they did.

so,to me,thats yet another example of HRNZ pushing an agenda,in this case favoring kaikoura,to the detriment of the connections of horses that raced at the methven meeting.

I mean,can't people tell who says they are on the their side,when in reality their actions say otherwise.