Chief Stipe Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago Some very handy horses have won the Matamata Slipper and many have gone on to be decent Stallions at Stud: Previous Matamata Slipper Winners Date Horse Jockey WT Trainer BP 24 Feb 2024 SAVAGLEE (NZ) 2C SAVABEEL (AUS) - GLEE (NZ) O'REILLY (NZ) S C SPRATT 57.0 MICHAEL MORONEY & PAM GERARD 3 25 Feb 2023 TOKYO TYCOON (NZ) 2G SATONO ALADDIN (JPN) - ALL ABOUT THE COIN (AUS) STARCRAFT (NZ) CRAIG ZACKEY 57.0 MARK WALKER 5 26 Feb 2022 ALABAMA GOLD (NZ) 2C TURN ME LOOSE (NZ) - ATTALLA (NZ) VOLKSRAAD (GB) SAM WEATHERLEY 56.5 STEPHEN AUTRIDGE & KRIS SHAILER 7 27 Feb 2021 SWORD OF STATE (AUS) 2C SNITZEL (AUS) - IN THE VANGUARD (AUS) ENCOSTA DE LAGO (AUS) T N HARRIS 56.5 JAMIE RICHARDS 2 22 Feb 2020 SPIRITED EXPRESS (AUS) 2G NO NAY NEVER (USA) - BO BARDI (AUS) FASTNET ROCK (AUS) C J GRYLLS 56.5 JAMIE RICHARDS 2 23 Feb 2019 MINI FORCE X (NZ) 2G DUNDEEL (NZ) - MISS ZAPPER (AUS) RED RANSOM (USA) M CAMERON 56.5 JAMIE RICHARDS 1 24 Feb 2018 SWORD OF OSMAN (NZ) 2G SAVABEEL (AUS) - BUNYAH (IRE) DISTANT VIEW (USA) O P BOSSON 56.5 STEPHEN AUTRIDGE 3 25 Feb 2017 SUMMER PASSAGE (AUS) 2C SNITZEL (AUS) - SUBSEQUENT (AUS) ENCOSTA DE LAGO (AUS) C J GRYLLS 56.5 LANCE O'SULLIVAN & ANDREW SCOTT 2 27 Feb 2016 HEROIC VALOUR (AUS) 2C FASTNET ROCK (AUS) - MYRRH (NZ) NASSIPOUR (USA) M CAMERON 56.5 STEPHEN AUTRIDGE 3 21 Feb 2015 ROCANTO (NZ) 2C PER INCANTO (USA) - ROMANTIC LIAISONS (NZ) DANASINGA (AUS) MARK DU PLESSIS 56.5 STEPHEN MARSH 3 22 Feb 2014 PRINCE MAMBO (NZ) 2G THEWAYYOUARE (USA) - GRACE PARK (NZ) DANSKE (NZ) S C SPRATT 56.5 STEPHEN MCKEE 6 23 Feb 2013 TWIN DELIGHT (NZ) 2G PERFECTLY READY (AUS) - PENNY ARCADE (NZ) STRAUSSBROOK (AUS) B R JONES 56.5 JASON PRICE 1 25 Feb 2012 MAGIC SHAFT (AUS) 2G SHAFT (AUS) - ADAPTABLE LASS (AUS) MARAUDING (NZ) M T COLEMAN 56.5 J G SARGENT 10 26 Feb 2011 HAPPY HA HA (NZ) 2G SAVABEEL (AUS) - ILLUMINATE (NZ) DESERT SUN (GB) H S TINSLEY 56.0 J G SARGENT 6 21 Feb 2009 KING'S RANSOM (NZ) 2G KING'S CHAPEL (AUS) - JOAN (NZ) COLONEL COLLINS (USA) M J WALKER 56.0 MARK WALKER 5 23 Feb 2008 MINSTREL COURT (AUS) 2C DANEHILL DANCER (IRE) - TREGURRIAN (AUS) RORY'S JESTER (AUS) O P BOSSON 56.0 MARK WALKER 8 24 Feb 2007 FLORAL EL CUENTO (AUS) 2C TALE OF THE CAT (USA) - ROYAL CELEBRITY (AUS) ROYAL ACADEMY (USA) J C COLLETT 56.0 JIM COLLETT 7 25 Feb 2006 JOKERS WILD (NZ) 2C BLACK MINNALOUSHE (USA) - MISS RORY (AUS) RORY'S JESTER (AUS) M T COLEMAN 56.0 M MORONEY & A SCOTT 3 19 Feb 2005 DARCI BRAHMA (NZ) 2C DANEHILL (USA) - GRAND ECHEZEAUX (NZ) ZAFONIC (USA) H S TINSLEY 55.0 MARK WALKER 6 14 Feb 2004 KEENINSKY (NZ) 2C STRAVINSKY (USA) - SO KEEN (NZ) JADE HUNTER (USA) A C PEARD 55.0 GRAEME ROGERSON & STEPHEN AUTRIDGE 5 15 Feb 2003 MR UBIQUITOUS (NZ) 2G TALE OF THE CAT (USA) - ZAHRA (NZ) ZAFONIC (USA) M T COLEMAN 55.0 M MORONEY & A SCOTT 1 23 Feb 2002 DANROAD (AUS) 2C DANEHILL (USA) - STRAWBERRY GIRL (USA) STRAWBERRY ROAD (AUS) L A O'SULLIVAN 55.0 C MCNAB 6 24 Feb 2001 VINAKA (NZ) 2G VOLKSRAAD (GB) - SHEPHERD'S DELIGHT (NZ) FAMOUS STAR (GB) L G INNES 55.0 JIM GIBBS & ERIC BET 6 26 Feb 2000 PALLADIO (NZ) 2G VOLKSRAAD (GB) - PALMETTO (NZ) PALM BEACH (FR) B R JONES 55.0 JIM GIBBS 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago Likewise with the Matamata Breeders Stakes: Previous Matamata Breeders' Stakes Winners Date Horse Jockey WT Trainer BP 24 Feb 2024 CAPTURED BY LOVE (AUS) 2F WRITTEN TYCOON (AUS) - MOLDOVA (AUS) SNITZEL (AUS) O P BOSSON 56.5 MARK WALKER & SAM BERGERSON 2 25 Feb 2023 ZOURION (NZ) 2F ZOUSTAR (AUS) - IRION (NZ) DANROAD (AUS) O P BOSSON 56.5 MARK WALKER 5 26 Feb 2022 MAVEN BELLE (NZ) 2F BURGUNDY (NZ) - DOYENNE (NZ) KILIMANJARO (GB) RYAN ELLIOT 56.5 JAMIE RICHARDS 6 27 Feb 2021 BONNY LASS (NZ) 2F SUPER EASY (NZ) - POSH BEC (NZ) LE BEC FIN (NZ) C J GRYLLS 56.5 GRAHAM RICHARDSON & ROGAN NORVALL 6 22 Feb 2020 VERNAZZA (NZ) 2F MORE THAN READY (USA) - ZONZA (NZ) ZABEEL (NZ) M T COLEMAN 56.5 L NOBLE 9 23 Feb 2019 ARETHA (NZ) 2F CHARM SPIRIT (IRE) - TSIKORY (NZ) STRAVINSKY (USA) J K RIDDELL 56.5 MURRAY BAKER & ANDREW FORSMAN 1 24 Feb 2018 SPANISH WHISPER (AUS) 2F LOPE DE VEGA (IRE) - CUTTING REMARK (AUS) ENCOSTA DE LAGO (AUS) V A COLGAN 56.5 PETER & DAWN WILLIAMS 7 25 Feb 2017 GOLD FEVER (NZ) 2F SAVABEEL (AUS) - GOLD ROCKS (AUS) ORATORIO (AUS) O P BOSSON 56.5 STEPHEN AUTRIDGE 7 27 Feb 2016 GOLD RUSH (NZ) 2F SO YOU THINK (NZ) - GOLD ROCKS (AUS) ORATORIO (AUS) C J GRYLLS 56.5 LANCE O'SULLIVAN & ANDREW SCOTT 5 21 Feb 2015 SERENA MISS (NZ) 2F IFFRAAJ (GB) - GIFTED LASS (AUS) MORE THAN READY (USA) L G INNES 56.5 GRAEME & DEBBIE ROGERSON 5 22 Feb 2014 LADY ROYALE (NZ) 2F CAPTAIN RIO (GB) - CACKLES (AUS) CATBIRD (AUS) S C SPRATT 56.5 RICHARD COLLETT & GARETH MCRAE 6 23 Feb 2013 RECITE (NZ) 2F DARCI BRAHMA (NZ) - CHANT (NZ) TRADITIONALLY (USA) MARK DU PLESSIS 56.5 JOHN BARY 1 26 Feb 2011 ANABANDANA (AUS) 2F ANABAA (USA) - GREAT NOTICE (USA) NUREYEV (USA) O P BOSSON 56.0 D SELLWOOD 1 27 Feb 2010 BANCHEE (NZ) 2F ORATORIO (IRE) - MISS JESSIE JAY (NZ) SPECTACULARPHANTOM (USA) L G INNES 56.0 J G SARGENT 14 21 Feb 2009 TE AKAU ROSE (NZ) 2F THORN PARK (AUS) - STRAUSSBRIDGE (NZ) STRAUSSBROOK (AUS) T N HARRIS 56.0 MARK WALKER 2 23 Feb 2008 TE AKAU COUP (NZ) 2F THORN PARK (AUS) - BEYOND THE SUNSET (USA) GONE WEST (USA) J L WADDELL 56.0 MARK WALKER 1 24 Feb 2007 SATINKA (NZ) 2F STRAVINSKY (USA) - MISS SAIGON (NZ) KINGS ISLAND (IRE) MARK DU PLESSIS 56.0 LANCE O'SULLIVAN & ANDREW SCOTT 6 25 Feb 2006 NATURO (NZ) 2F POSTPONED (USA) - RUBITON'S BEST (AUS) RUBITON (AUS) J L WADDELL 56.0 J G SARGENT 1 19 Feb 2005 MI JUBILEE (NZ) 2F HOWBADDOUWANTIT (USA) - MI STEEL (NZ) MI PREFERIDO (USA) DAVID WALKER 55.0 STEPHEN CRUTCHLEY 8 14 Feb 2004 VELASCO (AUS) 2F FLYING SPUR (AUS) - VITAL CURVES (NZ) MCGINTY (NZ) A CALDER 55.0 B TANKARD 8 15 Feb 2003 KATANA (NZ) 2F VOLKSRAAD (GB) - TRISTEAN (NZ) SIR TRISTRAM (IRE) M T COLEMAN 55.0 M MORONEY & A SCOTT 10 23 Feb 2002 LADY DEHERE (NZ) 2F DEHERE (USA) - EXPRESS A SMILE (AUS) SUCCESS EXPRESS (USA) M C SWEENEY 55.0 GRAEME & DEBBIE SANDERS 8 24 Feb 2001 FLYING BABE (AUS) 2F FLYING SPUR (AUS) - CAST YOUR FATE (AUS) BLETCHINGLY (AUS) L A O'SULLIVAN 55.0 COLIN & RICHARD YUILL 3 26 Feb 2000 CONQUISTAR (NZ) 2F DANASINGA (AUS) - THE STREET (NZ) AMYNTOR (FR) M T COLEMAN 55.0 MICHAEL MORONEY 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago 26 minutes ago, Huey said: Nearly $400k in stakes getting thrown at 12 runners at Matamata this weekend , 5 in Slipper & 7 in the Breeders (the Breeders yeah right 6 are by Aus based Sires) We realise @Huey that you are a strong proponent of "in-breeding" and can count to 12 using the fingers on your two hands so you must be bitterly disappointed that none of the 12 are by NZ bred sires. That's a good sign in my opinion that new blood is being introduced into NZ Thoroughbred breeding. Although in saying that the three Snitzel colts are going places and will likely be lost to NZ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huey Posted 5 hours ago Author Share Posted 5 hours ago 1 hour ago, Chief Stipe said: We realise @Huey that you are a strong proponent of "in-breeding" and can count to 12 using the fingers on your two hands so you must be bitterly disappointed that none of the 12 are by NZ bred sires. That's a good sign in my opinion that new blood is being introduced into NZ Thoroughbred breeding. Although in saying that the three Snitzel colts are going places and will likely be lost to NZ. Well at least I can count , 3 of the 12 are by NZ sires SS & Sav. they are not all by Aus sires , have a look again and let me know if you need a hand to work that out. Absolute rubbish about new blood being introduced, any good fillies will likely be sold for large sums o'seas & the colts well we can only hope they stay colts on these shores. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huey Posted 5 hours ago Author Share Posted 5 hours ago 2 hours ago, Chief Stipe said: Some very handy horses have won the Matamata Slipper and many have gone on to be decent Stallions at Stud: Previous Matamata Slipper Winners Date Horse Jockey WT Trainer BP 24 Feb 2024 SAVAGLEE (NZ) 2C SAVABEEL (AUS) - GLEE (NZ) O'REILLY (NZ) S C SPRATT 57.0 MICHAEL MORONEY & PAM GERARD 3 25 Feb 2023 TOKYO TYCOON (NZ) 2G SATONO ALADDIN (JPN) - ALL ABOUT THE COIN (AUS) STARCRAFT (NZ) CRAIG ZACKEY 57.0 MARK WALKER 5 26 Feb 2022 ALABAMA GOLD (NZ) 2C TURN ME LOOSE (NZ) - ATTALLA (NZ) VOLKSRAAD (GB) SAM WEATHERLEY 56.5 STEPHEN AUTRIDGE & KRIS SHAILER 7 27 Feb 2021 SWORD OF STATE (AUS) 2C SNITZEL (AUS) - IN THE VANGUARD (AUS) ENCOSTA DE LAGO (AUS) T N HARRIS 56.5 JAMIE RICHARDS 2 22 Feb 2020 SPIRITED EXPRESS (AUS) 2G NO NAY NEVER (USA) - BO BARDI (AUS) FASTNET ROCK (AUS) C J GRYLLS 56.5 JAMIE RICHARDS 2 23 Feb 2019 MINI FORCE X (NZ) 2G DUNDEEL (NZ) - MISS ZAPPER (AUS) RED RANSOM (USA) M CAMERON 56.5 JAMIE RICHARDS 1 24 Feb 2018 SWORD OF OSMAN (NZ) 2G SAVABEEL (AUS) - BUNYAH (IRE) DISTANT VIEW (USA) O P BOSSON 56.5 STEPHEN AUTRIDGE 3 25 Feb 2017 SUMMER PASSAGE (AUS) 2C SNITZEL (AUS) - SUBSEQUENT (AUS) ENCOSTA DE LAGO (AUS) C J GRYLLS 56.5 LANCE O'SULLIVAN & ANDREW SCOTT 2 27 Feb 2016 HEROIC VALOUR (AUS) 2C FASTNET ROCK (AUS) - MYRRH (NZ) NASSIPOUR (USA) M CAMERON 56.5 STEPHEN AUTRIDGE 3 21 Feb 2015 ROCANTO (NZ) 2C PER INCANTO (USA) - ROMANTIC LIAISONS (NZ) DANASINGA (AUS) MARK DU PLESSIS 56.5 STEPHEN MARSH 3 22 Feb 2014 PRINCE MAMBO (NZ) 2G THEWAYYOUARE (USA) - GRACE PARK (NZ) DANSKE (NZ) S C SPRATT 56.5 STEPHEN MCKEE 6 23 Feb 2013 TWIN DELIGHT (NZ) 2G PERFECTLY READY (AUS) - PENNY ARCADE (NZ) STRAUSSBROOK (AUS) B R JONES 56.5 JASON PRICE 1 25 Feb 2012 MAGIC SHAFT (AUS) 2G SHAFT (AUS) - ADAPTABLE LASS (AUS) MARAUDING (NZ) M T COLEMAN 56.5 J G SARGENT 10 26 Feb 2011 HAPPY HA HA (NZ) 2G SAVABEEL (AUS) - ILLUMINATE (NZ) DESERT SUN (GB) H S TINSLEY 56.0 J G SARGENT 6 21 Feb 2009 KING'S RANSOM (NZ) 2G KING'S CHAPEL (AUS) - JOAN (NZ) COLONEL COLLINS (USA) M J WALKER 56.0 MARK WALKER 5 23 Feb 2008 MINSTREL COURT (AUS) 2C DANEHILL DANCER (IRE) - TREGURRIAN (AUS) RORY'S JESTER (AUS) O P BOSSON 56.0 MARK WALKER 8 24 Feb 2007 FLORAL EL CUENTO (AUS) 2C TALE OF THE CAT (USA) - ROYAL CELEBRITY (AUS) ROYAL ACADEMY (USA) J C COLLETT 56.0 JIM COLLETT 7 25 Feb 2006 JOKERS WILD (NZ) 2C BLACK MINNALOUSHE (USA) - MISS RORY (AUS) RORY'S JESTER (AUS) M T COLEMAN 56.0 M MORONEY & A SCOTT 3 19 Feb 2005 DARCI BRAHMA (NZ) 2C DANEHILL (USA) - GRAND ECHEZEAUX (NZ) ZAFONIC (USA) H S TINSLEY 55.0 MARK WALKER 6 14 Feb 2004 KEENINSKY (NZ) 2C STRAVINSKY (USA) - SO KEEN (NZ) JADE HUNTER (USA) A C PEARD 55.0 GRAEME ROGERSON & STEPHEN AUTRIDGE 5 15 Feb 2003 MR UBIQUITOUS (NZ) 2G TALE OF THE CAT (USA) - ZAHRA (NZ) ZAFONIC (USA) M T COLEMAN 55.0 M MORONEY & A SCOTT 1 23 Feb 2002 DANROAD (AUS) 2C DANEHILL (USA) - STRAWBERRY GIRL (USA) STRAWBERRY ROAD (AUS) L A O'SULLIVAN 55.0 C MCNAB 6 24 Feb 2001 VINAKA (NZ) 2G VOLKSRAAD (GB) - SHEPHERD'S DELIGHT (NZ) FAMOUS STAR (GB) L G INNES 55.0 JIM GIBBS & ERIC BET 6 26 Feb 2000 PALLADIO (NZ) 2G VOLKSRAAD (GB) - PALMETTO (NZ) PALM BEACH (FR) B R JONES 55.0 JIM GIBBS 3 What's that got to do with the field sizes and the $$ being thrown at them? I know your idols have huge participation in these races and the 2yo scene so it may be difficult for your to be partisan in your opinions , but at least try! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago 15 minutes ago, Huey said: What's that got to do with the field sizes and the $$ being thrown at them? I know your idols have huge participation in these races and the 2yo scene so it may be difficult for your to be partisan in your opinions , but at least try! For a start it isn't $400k as you stated it is $375k. One is a Grp 3 ($150k - boys) the other is a Grp 2 ($225k - girls). Is your main beef the field size? It can't be the quality of the entrants as that is outstanding. Two years ago the stakes were $85k and $120k which quite frankly well short of what they should have been. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huey Posted 5 hours ago Author Share Posted 5 hours ago 6 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: For a start it isn't $400k as you stated it is $375k. One is a Grp 3 ($150k - boys) the other is a Grp 2 ($225k - girls). Is your main beef the field size? It can't be the quality of the entrants as that is outstanding. Two years ago the stakes were $85k and $120k which quite frankly well short of what they should have been. Did you fall and knock your head on the kitchen counter last night CS? I said near $400k . Yes its the fields sizes they are pathetic for the $$$ being thrown around, how do you know the quality is good especially in the boys race as they are winning more weak small field sized 2yo races to get to this point , any of them win the Pierro Plate at Randwick this weekend any of them on the way to the real Slipper? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago 23 minutes ago, Huey said: any of them win the Pierro Plate at Randwick this weekend I think any of the top 3 in each of the races would aquit themselves well in the Pierro Plate. Which BTW isn't black type and is worth NZ$176k. Is there anything you like about NZ Racing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huey Posted 4 hours ago Author Share Posted 4 hours ago 8 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: I think any of the top 3 in each of the races would aquit themselves well in the Pierro Plate. Which BTW isn't black type and is worth NZ$176k. Not Black Type , my point exactly , do you think they would win that race? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago 1 minute ago, Huey said: Not Black Type , my point exactly , do you think they would win that race? Absolutely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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