curious Posted April 21 Author Posted April 21 7 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: They put 90 tonnes after the first abandoned meeting then when the next meeting was abandoned they put on another 900 tonnes. That of course doesn't count the original 12,000 tonnes. Well, regardless whether or not it was a good idea to add it, it surely needed 12-18 months for it to infiltrate and be bound by the root structure before it was raced on again. You get what you pay for I guess. Jockeys need windshields and wipers, but the poor horses are stuck with what they get chucked at them. Quote
curious Posted April 21 Author Posted April 21 26 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: Really? Who would have thought. I notice this posted just now on another channel which is consistent with JMO's perspective. Quote
Newmarket Posted April 21 Posted April 21 Waverley today was a complete bog…. I was waiting for meeting to be cancelled early on, but surprised it went ahead when you look at recent cancellations. I’m waiting for stipes report…. surely there would have been horses slipping?? Quote
Chief Stipe Posted April 21 Posted April 21 20 minutes ago, curious said: I notice this posted just now on another channel which is consistent with JMO's perspective. Which is exactly what I've been saying. If you listen to the Jockeys after a race in those conditions you hear that the horses look after themselves and hold back. Quote
Chief Stipe Posted April 21 Posted April 21 20 minutes ago, Newmarket said: Waverley today was a complete bog…. I was waiting for meeting to be cancelled early on, but surprised it went ahead when you look at recent cancellations. I’m waiting for stipes report…. surely there would have been horses slipping?? No because it is a track that horses get their hooves into it. Most of our tracks are like that. It is in the early spring and early autumn where issues with slipping occur. Where the weather goes from dry to wet and back again. There'd be no slipping at Waverley today - just tired horses. Quote
TAB For Ever Posted April 21 Posted April 21 On 4/20/2025 at 9:34 PM, Wingman said: It was a soft track, clods were flying through the air, therefore there will be splatter. Every horse that was capable of running a decent race on a soft track appeared to do just that. Bottom line a fair and safe autumn track. It may develop into a horses for courses track, that remains to be seen. Well this thread has ignited the tight five....they on fire ! Firstly they have fantasised something negative a winning jockey wanted to say.....why would she ......I wonder if she had ever rode on the track before. Can't remember seeing her at Group 1 days or at the recent trials when some 200 horses went around one day and a big crowd of horses 2 x days later after some very persistent rain. I noted the jockey not so prominent in her other rides , finishing 3 x lasts and a near last while in Easter the horse ran very well after being stuck 3 x wide ,no cover ,the trip ! During the day there was some steady drizzle so the ground did deteriorate as the day progressed,. But throughout the day partricipants generally were gobsmacked by the great condition of the track after some heavy rain overnight [34m] plus rain the day before too. Many compliments all round . I was staying nearby and I doubted that the day would go ahead ,though I expected $50mil plus would provide something better than a bog. But 1.10.4 secs..no way. Unfortunately our horse ,after me and a couple synd members had made the effort was scratched overnight as the trainer expected it to dislike any spit on ground a la Grey Way. The day produced 9 winners and 27 placegetters , all happy and there was some great racing.......the 2100 fillies race the race of the year. And yet again ,I made some money , as modest as I bet but at last I have learned to bet on Trainers and Jockeys. I overheard a lot [25 + ] of post race comments and only one excuse mentioned the track.It and one other appeared in the Stipes report plus one kick back excuse. Seemed fair as the amount of rain made it inevitable. Most had plenty of time to scratch ,so will know next time. Overall , an excellent days racing , which overcame the shocking wind and rain over Easter to stand up admirably. Much to enjoy in Racing currently. Attendance was poor , civil emergency kept telling us to go home , but the day played out [ no Grand tour ] Quote
Chief Stipe Posted April 21 Posted April 21 7 hours ago, TAB For Ever said: Unfortunately our horse ,after me and a couple synd members had made the effort was scratched overnight as the trainer expected it to dislike any spit on ground a la Grey Way. That's pure gold @TAB For Ever - did your trainer not get the memo? Quote
TAB For Ever Posted April 23 Posted April 23 On 4/22/2025 at 6:56 AM, Chief Stipe said: That's pure gold @TAB For Ever - did your trainer not get the memo? Gold indeed Chief....the trainer had used the 'unsuitable soft ground' excuse twice before so understandably not prepared to go for the Trifecta. One didn't have to be a rocket scientist to realise with the Easter rain , plus 34 m overnight.....it pissed down at times , the poor forecast and the verti draining .....a firm summer track was 100% impossible ! A bit of kick back......R E. A. L. L. Y. ! Quote
Chief Stipe Posted April 23 Posted April 23 1 minute ago, TAB For Ever said: Gold indeed Chief....the trainer had used the 'unsuitable soft ground' excuse twice before so understandably not prepared to go for the Trifecta. One didn't have to be a rocket scientist to realise with the Easter rain , plus 34 m overnight.....it pissed down at times , the poor forecast and the verti draining .....a firm summer track was 100% impossible ! A bit of kick back......R E. A. L. L. Y. ! Perhaps. But it wasn't a Heavy track according to your Koolaid post mentioning 1:10 for 1200m. You can't have it all ways. May I suggest the next time you stay at the Novotel you walk the track in the morning. Assuming the current management allow you to. Quote
TAB For Ever Posted April 23 Posted April 23 2 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: Perhaps. But it wasn't a Heavy track according to your Koolaid post mentioning 1:10 for 1200m. You can't have it all ways. May I suggest the next time you stay at the Novotel you walk the track in the morning. Assuming the current management allow you to. The track really was in amazingly good condition after the overnight rain and participants were blown away how well it played. But this is Horse Racing and most horses that run below it's connections expectations will reach , in the 'aftermath' , to the book of excuses. In my experience...and thats what I love to refer to , the most used excuses are the track conditions and the jockeys/drivers performance. Quote
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