Chief Stipe Posted June 20 Posted June 20 23 hours ago, curious said: Here's one for you in the first today to keep you going. I backed it too That picture proves SFA but I see @Comic Dog stole it so he can sing to the crickets.
Freda Posted June 20 Posted June 20 2 hours ago, Chief Stipe said: That picture proves SFA but I see @Comic Dog stole it so he can sing to the crickets. It proves that the whip is being used incorrectly. You can argue all you like, but the fact remains that our riders aren't being taught correctly and nor is the misuse being dealt with. Joe Doyle has appeared in a few pics..do you seriously think he'd get away with that at home? He knows he can get away with it here, is all. 2
Chief Stipe Posted June 20 Posted June 20 10 minutes ago, Freda said: proves that the whip is being used incorrectly. In my opinion it proves nothing. A high definition slow motion replay may very well do that. But a screen shot of one video frame or part of a frame doesn't prove Jack. We don't even know the source of the video. What's more what is the Jockey doing with his or her whip in the other hand? I gather you and @curious won't be putting Joe Doyle up anytime soon?
Thomass Posted June 20 Author Posted June 20 19 hours ago, Chief Stipe said: In my opinion it proves nothing. A high definition slow motion replay may very well do that. But a screen shot of one video frame or part of a frame doesn't prove Jack. We don't even know the source of the video. What's more what is the Jockey doing with his or her whip in the other hand? I gather you and @curious won't be putting Joe Doyle up anytime soon? It shows JKB striking the flank with the non padded polymer/handle and the resultant indentation/welt left VERBOTEN 1
Chief Stipe Posted June 20 Posted June 20 19 hours ago, Thomass said: It shows JKB striking the flank with the non padded polymer/handle and the resultant indentation/welt left VERBOTEN Here we go again...sigh. What is the definition of flank in the rules?
curious Posted June 20 Posted June 20 41 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: In my opinion it proves nothing. A high definition slow motion replay may very well do that. But a screen shot of one video frame or part of a frame doesn't prove Jack. We don't even know the source of the video. The source of mine is the NZTR race replay on their website. The stewards have the HD slo mo vid to inspect don't they? It's a part frame because I don't want to show 2 violations in one pic. 43 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: I gather you and @curious won't be putting Joe Doyle up anytime soon? No biggie. There's plenty who use it correctly or are trying to learn.
Thomass Posted June 20 Author Posted June 20 (edited) 1 hour ago, Chief Stipe said: Define flank? Between the ribs and the hip? The flank of a horse is located on the side of the horse, behind the rib cage and in front of the hind legs, specifically, the area between the barrel (ribcage) and the hindquarters. It's a sensitive area and is often described as a slightly indented space. Edited June 20 by Thomass
Chief Stipe Posted June 20 Posted June 20 Apparently @curious you are "giving the crazies ammunition. What do you say to that?
Chief Stipe Posted June 20 Posted June 20 3 minutes ago, Thomass said: The flank of a horse is located on the side of the horse, behind the rib cage and in front of the hind legs, specifically, the area between the barrel (ribcage) and the hindquarters. It's a sensitive area and is often described as a slightly indented space. Is that from the rules?
Chief Stipe Posted June 20 Posted June 20 5 minutes ago, Thomass said: The flank of a horse is located on the side of the horse, behind the rib cage and in front of the hind legs, specifically, the area between the barrel (ribcage) and the hindquarters. It's a sensitive area and is often described as a slightly indented space. So on that basis some of the photos posted are misleading at best. But let's not drum up traffic with emotion.
curious Posted June 20 Posted June 20 8 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: Apparently @curious you are "giving the crazies ammunition. What do you say to that? He said "unless we as an industry address this we are just giving the crazies ammunition"
Chief Stipe Posted June 20 Posted June 20 45 minutes ago, curious said: He said "unless we as an industry address this we are just giving the crazies ammunition" But you are producing the ammo?
curious Posted June 20 Posted June 20 The ammo is aimed to get it addressed since direct attempts fall on deaf ears. 2
Chief Stipe Posted June 20 Posted June 20 1 minute ago, curious said: The ammo is aimed to get it addressed since direct attempts fall on deaf ears. Fair enough. I don't agree with the base supposition but if you want to address it then don't do it on an online forum. You are just feeding the "Crazies" as @Comic Dog says. And the Journalists! I've seen that happen on BOAY's Greyhound forum. KEEP TALKING TO THOSE THAT ENFORCE THE RULES.
Thomass Posted June 20 Author Posted June 20 And Bruno in the 2nd race with the final strike before he gets up in the last few strides, the ultimate stinging 90 degree flex using all the muscle he can muster...into the flank And 'they'say "it's all about the noise not the hurt' #pfftt 1
Chief Stipe Posted June 20 Posted June 20 Even the great Cassidy couldn't get it right! Jim Cassidy rides four winners at Rosehill before copping five-week suspension for whip offences www.foxsports.com.au @Comic Dog Jim Cassidy came crashing back to earth with a five-week suspension for whip offences after dominating the day at Rosehill with four winners on Saturday. The champion jockey brought up his fourth win on the John O'Shea-trained Lightinthenite to move to the top of the Sydney premiership but was later hit with a two-week suspension for his overuse of the whip in winning the event. Cassidy used the whip on 12 occasions before the 100m mark on Lightinthenite which was seven more than permitted, including seven times in consecutive strides. It only got worse from there with the jockey also outed for another three weeks for striking fourth-placed Zara Dancer on 17 occasions prior to the 100-metre mark in the final race of the day which was 12 more than permitted, including 11 times in consecutive strides. "I'm disappointed in myself. I had a blackout," Cassidy told stewards before pleading guilty to four whip offences. The 48-year-old's suspension is set to start immediately and he can return to the saddle on December 18, the day after the Villiers Stakes meeting at Warwick Farm. It was Cassidy's fifth offence since March for using the whip more than five times before the 100m mark and his sixth and seventh offences for using the whip in consecutive strides. Chief steward Ray Murrihy said it was "quite a blatant disregard of the whip rule". "We can't have a situation where someone decides they don't apply," Murrihy said. "I'm at a loss to understand the most senior rider here showing a blatant disregard for the rule." Earlier, Cassidy said he was proud of himself for being able to ride through the pain barrier after struggling with rib cartilage damage that forced him to stand down after one race the previous Saturday. Cassidy opened his day with victory on the John O'Shea-trained Golden Slipper prospect Faustus in the Nova 969 Fitzy & Wippa Handicap (1100m). Colorado Claire gave Cassidy and O'Shea an early double when she maintained her unbeaten record with a third straight win in the Bacardi Handicap (1400m). Cassidy made it three on the Darren Smith-trained Oakfield Beauty before combining again with O'Shea on Lightinthenite in the Jacob's Creek Sparkling Moscato Handicap (1500m). "I'm proud of myself and proud of Vic (wife Vicki) because she has babysitted me all week and helped with icing the injury every night to make sure we were here today."
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