Scabby Doo stole my IP!!! As in the Flank Debate!

[Chief Stipe]

1 hour ago, curious said:

Here's one for you in the first today to keep you going. I backed it too

That picture proves SFA but I see @Comic Dog stole it so he can sing to the crickets.

[Chief Stipe]

Define flank?  Between the ribs and the hip?

[Freda]

2 hours ago, Chief Stipe said:

That picture proves SFA but I see @Comic Dog stole it so he can sing to the crickets.

It proves that the whip is being used incorrectly.   You can argue all you like, but the fact remains that our riders aren't being taught correctly and nor is the misuse being dealt with.

Joe Doyle has appeared in a few pics..do you seriously think he'd get away with that at home?  He knows he can get away with it here, is all.

[Chief Stipe]

10 minutes ago, Freda said:

proves that the whip is being used incorrectly. 

In my opinion it proves nothing.  A high definition slow motion replay may very well do that.  But a screen shot of one video frame or part of a frame doesn't prove Jack.  We don't even know the source of the video.

What's more what is the Jockey doing with his or her whip in the other hand?

I gather you and @curious won't be putting Joe Doyle up anytime soon?

[Thomass]

13 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said:

In my opinion it proves nothing.  A high definition slow motion replay may very well do that.  But a screen shot of one video frame or part of a frame doesn't prove Jack.  We don't even know the source of the video.

What's more what is the Jockey doing with his or her whip in the other hand?

I gather you and @curious won't be putting Joe Doyle up anytime soon?

It shows JKB striking the flank with the non padded polymer/handle and the resultant indentation/welt left 

VERBOTEN 

[Chief Stipe]

9 minutes ago, Thomass said:

It shows JKB striking the flank with the non padded polymer/handle and the resultant indentation/welt left 

VERBOTEN 

Here we go again...sigh.  What is the definition of flank in the rules?

[curious]

41 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said:

In my opinion it proves nothing.  A high definition slow motion replay may very well do that.  But a screen shot of one video frame or part of a frame doesn't prove Jack.  We don't even know the source of the video.

The source of mine is the NZTR race replay on their website. The stewards have the HD slo mo vid to inspect don't they? It's a part frame because I don't want to show 2 violations in one pic.

43 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said:

I gather you and @curious won't be putting Joe Doyle up anytime soon?

No biggie. There's plenty who use it correctly or are trying to learn.

[Thomass]

1 hour ago, Chief Stipe said:

Define flank?  Between the ribs and the hip?

The flank of a horse is located on the side of the horse, behind the rib cage and in front of the hind legs, specifically, the area between the barrel (ribcage) and the hindquarters. It's a sensitive area and is often described as a slightly indented space. 

Edited 5 hours ago by Thomass

[Chief Stipe]

Apparently @curious you are "giving the crazies ammunition.  What do you say to that?

[Chief Stipe]

3 minutes ago, Thomass said:

The flank of a horse is located on the side of the horse, behind the rib cage and in front of the hind legs, specifically, the area between the barrel (ribcage) and the hindquarters. It's a sensitive area and is often described as a slightly indented space. 

Is that from the rules?

[Chief Stipe]

5 minutes ago, Thomass said:

The flank of a horse is located on the side of the horse, behind the rib cage and in front of the hind legs, specifically, the area between the barrel (ribcage) and the hindquarters. It's a sensitive area and is often described as a slightly indented space. 

So on that basis some of the photos posted are misleading at best.  But let's not drum up traffic with emotion.  

[curious]

8 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said:

Apparently @curious you are "giving the crazies ammunition.  What do you say to that?

He said "unless we as an industry address this we are just giving the crazies ammunition" 

[Chief Stipe]

45 minutes ago, curious said:

He said "unless we as an industry address this we are just giving the crazies ammunition" 

But you are producing the ammo?

[curious]

The ammo is aimed to get it addressed since direct attempts fall on deaf ears.

[Chief Stipe]

1 minute ago, curious said:

The ammo is aimed to get it addressed since direct attempts fall on deaf ears.

Fair enough.  I don't agree with the base supposition but if you want to address it then don't do it on an online forum.  You are just feeding the "Crazies" as @Comic Dog says.  And the Journalists!  

I've seen that happen on BOAY's Greyhound forum.  

KEEP TALKING TO THOSE THAT ENFORCE THE RULES.