Waller wants Randwick All to himself

[Gammalite]

After the first up wins ( of many this Season ) for Autumn Glow and Via Sistina. All Chris Waller could do was Moan and groan about the track at Randwick.

saying shite like "Shouldn't be used during Winter for 'Inferior' horse" s . should be kept well for Only his good ones coming back in the Spring  lol.

Walked the track yesterday and was' Scared' for his horses chances today he said on the Heavy 10. wanted them to go on Monday instead. 

Well  Mr Waller, August set records for the wettest Winter Sydney ever. So the track was gunna be Wet.  you just have to get on with it or scratch mate. Or go back to NZ and get used to it again 😅😋

BUT we can't keep it just for you Mr Waller. there are OTHER trainers , even though he Rarely recognizes them with any credits at all.  Maybe he wants to be a Ben Yole and have the entire Field in races? . 

The bloke is under so much pressure that he barely smiled after Autumn Glow and Via Sistina's wins today . Just expects to win All the time now.

And the track should just have to race when he says? to suit his 100's of horses . Probably the worst interviews i've seen ever Post race after big races. 

 

[MaltedMilkshake]

They were coming home in 34 and change, poor judge of a track, hope he wore gum boots when he walked the track, hate to think he got his designer shoes tacky.......

[Chief Stipe]

1 hour ago, MaltedMilkshake said:

They were coming home in 34 and change, poor judge of a track, hope he wore gum boots when he walked the track, hate to think he got his designer shoes tacky.......

Do you have the sectionals for each horse?  There was only one race that they went "34 and change" and that was Autumn Glow who is a very very good horse.

Are you suggesting the track wasn't a Heavy 10?  Not surprsing after 200mm of rain during the week.  No doubt the track will start falling apart as it always does as the season progresses.  Perhaps Waller has a point in that regard and that the track should be rested and maintenance work done during winter much like they do at Flemington.

[MaltedMilkshake]

Most races Sat they were able to run 35 and shrapnel last 600, even the 2000m horses, that's not a H10......NO......

Gamma is correct, Waller is NOT the Messiah, and his say has no more sway than the 'other' trainers.

 

[Chief Stipe]

2 minutes ago, MaltedMilkshake said:

Most races Sat they were able to run 35 and shrapnel last 600, even the 2000m horses, that's not a H10..

That is what it was officially rated at.  A Heavy 10.

Initially you said 34 and change now 35 and shrapnel.

They couldn't break 1:12.5 for 1200m and the last over 1600m was 1:42!  Hardly a good track - closer to a Heavy 10 than Good!

Via Sistena ran 1:26 which is 24 lengths slower than Fangirl did on a G4 at Randwick when winning the Apollo.

Although Autumn Glow's win over 1100m was phenomenal.

[MaltedMilkshake]

One race the last 600 was 34+, most of the others in 35+..........if you think that's a H10,.......you've never ridden a gallop. Tempo dictates all races, on Sat they ran moderate early doors, but as in ALL races the brakes are released last 600.......

Waller's secret is in fact no secret at all.......he surrounds himself with staff that are 'best money can buy' a recipe for success more often than not, hence the arrival of Beadman.

[Chief Stipe]

59 minutes ago, MaltedMilkshake said:

One race the last 600 was 34+, most of the others in 35+..........if you think that's a H10,.......you've never ridden a gallop.

You've now modified you comment yet again.

So Rosehill wasn't a Heavy 9 the previous week either?  Are you suggesting the official track rating of Heavy 10 was BS?

I gather from your track work remark that you have ridden track work but I would suggest that based on your remarks you haven't ridden any in recent times the class of those going around at Randwick on Saturday.

But back to the Topic - Waller's comments weren't about the track on Saturday but that it should have not been raced on in the middle of winter.  The two Sydney tracks are mess half way through the Spring and I doubt this year will be any different.   

[Gammalite]

14 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said:

You've now modified you comment yet again.

So Rosehill wasn't a Heavy 9 the previous week either?  Are you suggesting the official track rating of Heavy 10 was BS?

I gather from your track work remark that you have ridden track work but I would suggest that based on your remarks you haven't ridden any in recent times the class of those going around at Randwick on Saturday.

But back to the Topic - Waller's comments weren't about the track on Saturday but that it should have not been raced on in the middle of winter.  The two Sydney tracks are mess half way through the Spring and I doubt this year will be any different.   

Well the Golden Slipper usually run with a bit of rain about in the Autumn each year.

Is a good thing . The heavy tracks used to mean upsets were possible . The best horses can't use their absolute speed to win and it slows them up a bit . Gives others a chance. People used to enjoy the odd Bog as could back a few 'Mudders' . Not any more by the sound of it 😂

If you had your way Chief , the Tracks would be manicured to the nth degree , and racing would only be Won by the best horse Every race everywhere. No doubt Mr Waller probably agrees with you.  

Mr Waller has a superior outfit though , and is excellent trainer, so coped ok, so wins anyway with Via Sistina and Autumn Glow. and other stable reps went good as well in their races. Even not on their favoured track surfaces or distance. and they still ran good sectionals you blokes are saying , as are the best in the land.

So I still say he should be appreciating it (Royal Randwick and winning Races) instead of groaning , and trying to 'doctor' things in his favour. and saying he felt for the safety of his horses and rubbish like that , to try and get his way. Just getting too Precious in his old age. Hope you not as well Chief lol 😎😂🍾

 

But really ? Royal Randwick just kept for certain times of year? , just so there's a few less clods potentially ?? com'on mate. it's one of the great tracks of the world. Professional people prepare it for a Lot of Money. It's like saying Don't use Ellerslie in case a horse leaves on hoofmark on it or something 😉

[Chief Stipe]

10 minutes ago, Gammalite said:

If you had your way Chief , the Tracks would be manicured to the nth degree , and racing would only be Won by the best horse Every race everywhere. No doubt Mr Waller probably agrees with you.

Isn't that the objective - the best horses winning fair and square?

[Chief Stipe]

11 minutes ago, Gammalite said:

So I still say he should be appreciating it (Royal Randwick and winning Races) instead of groaning , and trying to 'doctor' things in his favour. and saying he felt for the safety of his horses and rubbish like that , to try and get his way. Just getting too Precious in his old age. Hope you not as well Chief lol

I strongly disagree.  Waller has a responsibility to his owners, his staff and the welfare of his horses.  He has every right to express his opinions.  Every one benefits from better safer tracks including Waller's competitors so I also disagree that he is trying to swing things in his favour.  Not as if he is Lee Freedman getting the track watered before the Melbourne Cup for the Diva.

I wish a few more NZ trainers would speak up and express their views about the tracks here in NZ if not individually at least collectively.  However they tend to do what you want and that is to keep their mouths shut.

[Gammalite]

23 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said:

Isn't that the objective - the best horses winning fair and square?

 Tick . yes.  It's why we have Handicaps to slow the best down a tickle compared to their opponents lol.  don't know if it's 'fair' or not lol. it's up to the Handicapper.

as far as track conditions go, I realize you are an expert on it, but still YOU CAN't CONTROL the WEATHER. it's an outdoor sport . so is affected by weather time to time. Melbourne Cup has had many 'soggy' editions. 

28 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said:

I strongly disagree.  Waller has a responsibility to his owners, his staff and the welfare of his horses.  He has every right to express his opinions.  Every one benefits from better safer tracks including Waller's competitors so I also disagree that he is trying to swing things in his favour. 

well yes Waller has absolutely MILLIONS of dollars of stock . Doesn't Mean he should call the shots as when they should race the meetings ? . He accepts for races SLATED for certain dates . He has to have them ready for them dates or scratch if he's 'Unhappy' with the conditions on the day. MANY many have scratched in the past with downgrades. Owners or trainers concerned their horse wouldn't perform or whatever. it was a sunny day there at Randwick Saturday.  him being 'Scared' , was just of Losing those races with his gazillion dollar horses.

 Of course he is trying to swing things in his favour. Is only natural for a person in that position with all that 'responsibility' you mention. Mr Zhang really needs the money Chief. 😅. worth 1/2 a Billion at last look. so Mr Waller probably wants to look out well, for his purchases. He paid $ AUS 5.9 million for Via Sistina even.  

We used to just try and a few 2nds at the Trots and get $1000 each time (for 2nd place) for the owners to cover their next month of training fee  🤣😉 . for the baker, or the muffler man , otr the cabinet maker owners.  their pride and joy horse they would get Photos with on Sundays at home, the horse worth about between $1000 and $5000 lol 🤣. unlikely to hurt themselves anyway. 

If Sydney raced today Monday  ( a POOR thing for betting agencies and Punters ) just to suit Waller groaning about a wet track , that would totally ridiculous. he's not that special to make a call like that ? . The TRACK would race the Same today as it did Saturday anyway . wouldn't of dried up heaps this time of year as is still WINTER. air temp fairly cool . (Bris is nice though 👍😉 24 today and beautiful 27 tomorrow.  great stuff 🌞) 

 

 

[Chief Stipe]

This is what he actually said.  I can relate to what he says.  I've walked a few tracks before horses I've had an interest in raced on them.  I remember vividly one particular case at Ellerslie around 2007 where early in the morning several of us walked the track with the Trainer.  His words were "well if we hadn't travelled all this way and it wasn't a Grp race I would be scratching" due to the state of the track.