NZTR expenditure ballooning out of control

[Chief Stipe]

23 minutes ago, Huey said:

Yes it they have a lot to answer for, why shouldn't the governing body be providing direction and assistance to the clubs on improving infrastructure it's one of the most important areas to get right , as we have seen.

Now you are contradicting yourself @Huey .  If the Clubs were run by experienced racing people surely they would know that they needed to maintain their very reason for being.  As it is when NZTR did offer advice the Clubs gave them the big finger and said "we know best"!  Anyway as you have argued time and time again NZTR doesn't (or didn't) own the track assets - perhaps you are now arguing they should have!

29 minutes ago, Huey said:

Certainly more important than Grand Tours , slot races , every Aus concept they have copied and everything else under the sun they have tried to trick the industry with.

That all got out of hand when Mckenzie did the sleight of hand with the TABNZ balance sheet and forced the marketing of racing onto each code individually.  Some of us warned you about what would happen.  Thankfully ENTAIN have stepped up now and even you would say that the marketing of the sport and wagering has taken a quantum leap forward.  ENTAIN must be spending millions on marketing and advertising which makes what the codes were doing look a pittance.

 

 

32 minutes ago, Huey said:

The trouble is they never did provide that assistance because just like now they are hiring a bunch of people (duplicating in many cases) with skill sets that don't match the needs of the industry i.e. Infrastructure  

 

Duplicating what skill sets?  It isn't apparent that any Club hired the right skill set and if they did adequately resource them. 

38 minutes ago, Huey said:

The present bunch of new hires will prove that , they've been bought in to babysit the new CEO lack of wagering / racing acumen & knowledge.

Or they have been hand picked to provide the expertise needed to drive NZ Racing in the right direction.  Ballesty is hardly without knowledge in the entertainment and gamblin sector (which is what racing is).  30 years running large clubs in NSW, small time race horse owner and senior executive roles at Crown Resorts, SkyCity Entertainment Group and at Gateway Casinos. If he is the right person for the job (presumably he was the best candidate that applied) time will tell.  But you must admit he is a step up from a banker!

[Huey]

1 hour ago, Chief Stipe said:

Now you are contradicting yourself @Huey .  If the Clubs were run by experienced racing people surely they would know that they needed to maintain their very reason for being.  As it is when NZTR did offer advice the Clubs gave them the big finger and said "we know best"!  Anyway as you have argued time and time again NZTR doesn't (or didn't) own the track assets - perhaps you are now arguing they should have!

That all got out of hand when Mckenzie did the sleight of hand with the TABNZ balance sheet and forced the marketing of racing onto each code individually.  Some of us warned you about what would happen.  Thankfully ENTAIN have stepped up now and even you would say that the marketing of the sport and wagering has taken a quantum leap forward.  ENTAIN must be spending millions on marketing and advertising which makes what the codes were doing look a pittance.

 

 

Duplicating what skill sets?  It isn't apparent that any Club hired the right skill set and if they did adequately resource them. 

Or they have been hand picked to provide the expertise needed to drive NZ Racing in the right direction.  Ballesty is hardly without knowledge in the entertainment and gamblin sector (which is what racing is).  30 years running large clubs in NSW, small time race horse owner and senior executive roles at Crown Resorts, SkyCity Entertainment Group and at Gateway Casinos. If he is the right person for the job (presumably he was the best candidate that applied) time will tell.  But you must admit he is a step up from a banker!

Stop mincing my words in effort to look like youre wining an arguement.

Of course NZTR should have provided some assistance in the infrastructure space, their entire reason for being is dependent on it.

You make frivolous claims like the clubs could trust NZTR when it came to anything, that in my experience has never been the case. That's created an issue for the industry that will likely never be over come.

NZTR have for a very long time been agenda driven , never able to grasp the bigger picture, always playing favourites based on their agenda and consistently underperforming or incompetent . This has contributed to the industry being in the dire state it is now with regards to infrastructure,

[Chief Stipe]

17 minutes ago, Huey said:

You make frivolous claims like the clubs could trust NZTR when it came to anything, that in my experience has never been the case. That's created an issue for the industry that will likely never be over come.

 

I haven't made any such claims.  Now who's "mincing"!  The Clubs OWNED the track assets - who's job in the first instance was it to look after their assets? 

Instead of looking for scapegoats (which seems to be a universal hobby in NZ) accept that ALL stakeholders are responsible for the state of the tracks.  The industry used and abused those tracks for decades and never put anything back in.  A collorary is the collapse of traditional farming systems throughout the country.  At least with those the land owners knew they had to change or they wouldn't eat!

17 minutes ago, Huey said:

NZTR have for a very long time been agenda driven , never able to grasp the bigger picture, always playing favourites based on their agenda and consistently underperforming or incompetent . This has contributed to the industry being in the dire state it is now with regards to infrastructure

Well the other side of the argument is that NZTR HAVE grasped "the bigger picture" however the Clubs dug their toes in and said "you can't touch our assets - we know best"!  That's why the industry is in the situation it is with the need to sell assets to bring what's left up to standard!!  Hell even one of you so called favoured Clubs had to sell its hill to fix it's track!!