Thomass Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 38 minutes ago, mardigras said: He certainly does in respect of training racehorses. I've never said otherwise. I'm not a horse trainer so that is to be expected. I'm a punter. Training horses is knowing what a horse requires for maximum performance ffs Youre telling him he's wrong in respect of needing Blinkers ffs man up and admit you know f all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 13 minutes ago, barryb said: No T, mine is not stabbing some random performance, its about looking at the total performance and looking at the rest of the fields as well, otherwise its just a pure gamble. A f--k stick like you focuses on the last couple of starts and declares it in form on that basis, fool. Black Type is not random Bazz... Thats why they catologue those races...they run faster times against stronger fields... Youre hoping a neddy's last 3 starts has a valid excuse....but you ignore excuses ...wtf would you price Yamato over a distance it's never placed before by 500M? And seek approval that you've priced it correctly?? Because you use inaccurate stab in the dark algorithms...unlike me I know what a valid excuse is and price every detail accordingly... I don't care if a horse has run fast time against my Black Typer...as the % is way on my side... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryb Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 2 minutes ago, Thomass said: Black Type is not random Bazz... Thats why they catologue those races...they run faster times against stronger fields... Youre hoping a neddy's last 3 starts has a valid excuse....but you ignore excuses ...wtf would you price Yamato over a distance it's never placed before by 500M? And seek approval that you've priced it correctly?? Because you use inaccurate stab in the dark algorithms...unlike me I know what a valid excuse is and price every detail accordingly... I don't care if a horse has run fast time against my Black Typer...as the % is way on my side... 1) Why is it then your theory cant turn a dime as per what Mardigras has posted?. 2) I ignore the last 3 starts as losers like you are obsessed with them, I look well into past performance and not just selective confirmation theories like you do based on its last couple of runs. 3) Yamato in that instance was well over its true price and I proved it a start later when again I had it at $30s, a dumb punter like you focuses heavily on 1 or 2 blind theories that consistently fail to produce results. 4) Never once have I mentioned algorithms, your inability to understand that plenty can win outside of lunatic theories like you subscribe too is your failing not mine, Mardi's or Curious's. 5) You are full of excuses, but you dont look at the field in its entirety so you honestly have no idea if your horse is value or not. You have not assessed its opposition therefore cannot conclude a thing. 6) I can hear the princess deflating, best you get back to her as the weekends patchwork appears shoddy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 35 minutes ago, barryb said: 1) Why is it then your theory cant turn a dime as per what Mardigras has posted?. 2) I ignore the last 3 starts as losers like you are obsessed with them, I look well into past performance and not just selective confirmation theories like you do based on its last couple of runs. 3) Yamato in that instance was well over its true price and I proved it a start later when again I had it at $30s, a dumb punter like you focuses heavily on 1 or 2 blind theories that consistently fail to produce results. 4) Never once have I mentioned algorithms, your inability to understand that plenty can win outside of lunatic theories like you subscribe too is your failing not mine, Mardi's or Curious's. 5) You are full of excuses, but you dont look at the field in its entirety so you honestly have no idea if your horse is value or not. You have not assessed its opposition therefore cannot conclude a thing. 6) I can hear the princess deflating, best you get back to her as the weekends patchwork appears shoddy. Oh f me So Grass has my Accounts has he?. How could you be so f in stupid to believe his crap? Im a professional punter...told both sites many times!! 2/ Ignoring Its last 3 starts confirms you think they're robots with none racing out of form...it's basic punting 101 that a horse is either in form or out...they don't suddenly improve lengths without some basis for improvement...you ignore that 3/ It was well over its price because it had never placed within 500M ffs...I was on next start due to its superior Nth Is. form...with the allowance... 4/ Exactly...stab in the dark processes...you need an accurate algorithmic process to avoid emotional torment...which is why you get pissed each weekend with statements like "f in useless weekend"...asking Grass for his useless opinion 5/ Of course I know a G3 performer's Rating value back in a Benchmark race...Its my whole basis...I know the value then incrementally increase the bet above my rated value price...told you that 6/ Go chug another Whakachunga Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryb Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 F in nutter, waste of space you are. You have NFI and are not worth energy being spent on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryb Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 Just on Yamoto looney, its previous 3 runs were below par, so you ignored them and looked into its past did you?. Fraud, bullshitartist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 1 minute ago, barryb said: F in nutter, waste of space you are. You have NFI and are not worth energy being spent on. Typical bogan response... Go get a room with grassi and smoke him.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryb Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 3 minutes ago, barryb said: Just on Yamoto looney, its previous 3 runs were below par, so you ignored them and looked into its past did you?. Fraud, bullshitartist. As above, you can't even get your own bullshit theories right. FRAUD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 8 minutes ago, barryb said: Just on Yamoto looney, its previous 3 runs were below par, so you ignored them and looked into its past did you?. Fraud, bullshitartist. Wtf...of course they were below par!! They were over a mile ffs...she had the excuse of racing prep runs over an unsuitable distance.. It had a trial and 3 runs over a mile to get it ready...I usually allow 3 runs over a shorter distance before accepting a neddy is ready to return to its previous good form on a Premier NRTH Is day... over a suitable distance...it was in training since May...a spell to get her starting correctly...trailed a number of times...then 3 mile races...without a slow start I believed it had enough prep runs to get it ready I valued the Northern Form on that at $12... It ain't hard Ein Stain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryb Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 Explain why it paid $30s then FRAUD? Surely if a spoon head like you can see it then everyone else must be able too?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryb Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Thomass said: I valued the Northern Form on that at $12... It ain't hard Ein Stain WTF, did you just pluck this figure out of thin air?. Are you for real?. Do you actually believe this shit that you type? Edited October 16, 2018 by barryb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 1 hour ago, barryb said: Explain why it paid $30s then FRAUD? Surely if a spoon head like you can see it then everyone else must be able too?. Are you a f in Cop? I ask the questions round here, ok? Clearly her form was average...OVER THE SHORTER DISTANCES... ...even if she'd been racing over the distances she requires....where you backed her over 1600M...never placed before at less than 2100M...2 hands bellend right there Richard And she'd failed 3 times over that distance...without an excuse like SLOW again...losing all chance You would have still been on her!!! EVEN THOUGH SHE WOULD HAVE BEEN OUT OF FORM... Cop the f on bogan hogan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 1 hour ago, barryb said: WTF, did you just pluck this figure out of thin air?. Are you for real?. Do you actually believe this shit that you type? Northern form is nothing short of spectacular down there Bogan... I price according to its form in the North...including strength of field...comparing the strength it's now racing in of course... Added extra for her Premier race..and of course the allowance... Its all been worked out bogan...by my outstanding alogarithmic system You take a wild stab...how the f can you price the opposition when you regard a 6L unlucky with an every chance 6L clueless as your bff...you deserve each other Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryb Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 OMG Fraud, you have ZERO idea. Now way you go, your princess is burning the Saveloy soup. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardigras Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 3 hours ago, Thomass said: Training horses is knowing what a horse requires for maximum performance ffs Youre telling him he's wrong in respect of needing Blinkers ffs man up and admit you know f all Now Mr Fraud, you won't mind me calling you that since we know you are. I stated the trainer knows more about training horses than I do. I never said the trainer was always right. And clearly they aren't. Your statement is so stupid. If a trainer (who knows what a horse requires for maximum performance), is putting blinkers on (or any other gear change for that matter), then answer these simple questions. 1) Why doesn't every horse improve from what it has done prior, when racing with the gear change? 1a) Further to 1), why do more horses perform worse following gear changes, than perform better? 2) Why does a trainer make a gear change and then the next week after a poor performance, make another gear change, and then next week after another poor performance, make another gear change. Each week, you are stating he knows what a horse requires for maximum performance. Yet something hasn't been working. 3) Why does a trainer make a gear change where the horse performs terribly, then takes the gear change off and never applies that change again? Looking forward to your answers Mr Fraud. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardigras Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 2 hours ago, Thomass said: Oh f me So Grass has my Accounts has he?. How could you be so f in stupid to believe his crap? Im a professional punter...told both sites many times!! I don't need your accounts. You're a fraud. Why do you write so many fairytales? Does no one like you and you want to feel appreciated? Get help. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 3 hours ago, Thomass said: It had a trial and 3 runs over a mile to get it ready...I usually allow 3 runs over a shorter distance before accepting a neddy is ready to return to its previous good form on a Premier NRTH Is day... Can you add that to the blue print Mardi?..three runs over a shorter distance and preferably a trial. Hadn't picked that up before as part of the plan. Insert other media 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardigras Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 1 minute ago, curious said: Can you add that to the blue print Mardi?..three runs over a shorter distance and preferably a trial. Hadn't picked that up before as part of the plan. Insert other media Can't do the trial part. But it makes no difference. I'd expect that nearly every winner can be written about as to why it was a selection. After the race of course. I could write about a 100-1 winner easily as to what made it a 15-1 chance and great value. Let's not forget, back in racechat days, he claimed similar stuff. When asked to produce something, over the course of 9 months he gave out selections ranging in price from $3 - $5. 8 of them. Not a single winner. Nine months of nothing and one day he shows some wins. And now we have the same scenario from Mr Fraud. He'll one day possibly show some wins and claim he is a punter of success. But the facts are obvious. The blue print is flawed and he is a fraud. He'd make an interesting case for a psychologist and also a brain specialist wanting to work out what makes some brains so dysfunctional. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardigras Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 (edited) 15 minutes ago, curious said: Can you add that to the blue print Mardi?..three runs over a shorter distance and preferably a trial. Hadn't picked that up before as part of the plan. Insert other media Meant to add - that's because the 'plan' forever evolves. If you followed all aspects of the plan, you end up with most runners giving plenty to choose from on Sunday for the brunch write up. Edited October 16, 2018 by mardigras 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 17 minutes ago, mardigras said: Meant to add - that's because the 'plan' forever evolves. If you followed all aspects of the plan, you end up with most runners giving plenty to choose from on Sunday for the brunch write up. It's definitely made Sunday brunch more exciting and anticipatory .... even when I have to wait till Monday presumably due to more extensive Princess repairs. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryb Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 Its laughable for sure, but unfortunately for him & fortunately for us I think he genuinely believes the crap he posts. Idiots like him keep the TAB and bookies alive and as much as hes a fool, hes needed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardigras Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 4 minutes ago, barryb said: Its laughable for sure, but unfortunately for him & fortunately for us I think he genuinely believes the crap he posts. Idiots like him keep the TAB and bookies alive and as much as hes a fool, hes needed. The industry relies on losers. Winners aren't much use - especially those betting on NZ TAB. So luckily NZ TAB has Mr Fraud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 On 14/10/2018 at 3:16 PM, barryb said: "Go outside and dampen yourself with petrol." So do you want me to breath the fumes in and succumb that way Bazz... ...maybe get 1st degree burns by just taking it... Or would you like me to turn up outside yours so you can light the light? You really are a sick puppy... You take things way too seriously and I think you need help posting shit like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wally Posted October 16, 2018 Author Share Posted October 16, 2018 7 minutes ago, Thomass said: On 14/10/2018 at 12:16 PM, barryb said: "Go outside and dampen yourself with petrol." So do you want me to breath the fumes in and succumb that way Bazz... ...maybe get 1st degree burns by just taking it... Or would you like me to turn up outside yours so you can light the light? You really are a sick puppy... You take things way too seriously and I think you need help posting shit like that. whats the go today tommy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wally Posted October 16, 2018 Author Share Posted October 16, 2018 any tips for today team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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