Thomass Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 (edited) Oh yep... So app jockey Pinn weighs in 1 k overweight...costing Punters a fortune ...going down by 0.6L where H11 = 1kg to 1L And of course it's a mystery how it happened... Oatham went through Pinns movements with a fine tooth comb...nuttin ...when all he needed to ask was the burger bar man or Bazz's chippy... Bad news follows this kid around...after his "Somerville told me to thrash her" ...he got a scolding from Stewards who referred him to a re-education media training camp... ...the blardy media are largely to blame by putting him on a pedestil still "Billy" is being the class clown...don't put him on a pedestal is the thing...stop calling him Billy...just Silly will do Big Red needs to give him mucking out all day boxes duty ...oh and knock off the ciggies Edited July 16, 2018 by Thomass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brown fox Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 Michael Walkers mini me.Alright if he can emulate Micky Walkers achievements though? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted July 18, 2018 Author Share Posted July 18, 2018 It's something's about the family situation which is scarily similar... ...Pinn had no racing background but like many Maori...has great athletic ability... ...and like many young gees these days...a massive ego Big Red will be analysing every move Pinn made in misplacing the 1Kg though..... ...maybe attach a GPS system to his ass in future Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardigras Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 Were punters robbed? Maybe. But if they believe that, then I suspect they have been robbing themselves so much already, a little bit more probably shouldn't concern them. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted July 18, 2018 Author Share Posted July 18, 2018 Oh gee the ignorant triumvirate are out in force again... ...what's a kg in heavy H 11 ground then?? 0.1L still? no idea...just give up on trying to understand weights Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shad Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 Lets hope he is on song at oamaru on sunday, my bets on the hotdog caravan, that smell gets me every time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryb Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 8 hours ago, Thomass said: Oh gee the ignorant triumvirate are out in force again... ...what's a kg in heavy H 11 ground then?? 0.1L still? no idea...just give up on trying to understand weights Are you suggesting a kg weighs more in winter? Surely blinkers would negate that anyway if it does. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardigras Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 9 hours ago, Thomass said: Oh gee the ignorant triumvirate are out in force again... ...what's a kg in heavy H 11 ground then?? 0.1L still? no idea...just give up on trying to understand weights It's abundantly clear that you have been fed so much bullshit for so long, you are unable to differentiate fact from fiction. No wonder you are always wanting new information to be provided as you think you lose because you are missing the 'magic' piece of the puzzle. When the problem is, you are using the information that is available incorporated with some on old wive's tales. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted July 18, 2018 Author Share Posted July 18, 2018 It's information Australian Punters get....wtf is your problem with that? Besides you said we should get the pen readings after the Wangas debacle... where the 'experts' said the rail was the place to be on fresh ground...and it wasn't... Oatham's heard of the 1L as well...Pinn was actually 1.25kgs over FYI..you better put that in your algorithm system in case it explodes... Mr Oatham conceded there was no ready explanation for what had caused Mr Pinn to weigh in overweight as he did. He said both Mr Tapp and Mr Pinn had said Mr Pinn was correctly weighed out at 54.5kgs and nothing had been said during the hearing to indicate how the discrepancy in the weighing out and weighing weights occurred. He pointed out that Mr Pinn finished third in the Race with the margins back to third being a long neck and a long head. He submitted that the extra weight carried by “Rosewood” could have had a bearing on where the horse finished given those margins and the generally accepted fact that an additional kilogram of weight was equivalent to a 1 length margin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxie Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 Oatham doesn't seem that bright. "A generally accepted fact." I thought a fact was a fact - no question. Although he can be excused for being confused as "1kg equals 1 length" is garbage. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardigras Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 Oatham must have heard the same wive's tales as you and struggles to separate fact from fiction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted July 18, 2018 Author Share Posted July 18, 2018 Rosewood had hit the lead as well...with the extra 1.25Kgs obviously helping her hit the wall... ...and of course the dead lead weight makes a difference as well ..but you wouldn't take that into account either... Dead weight v 'live' weight = 0... in your ignorant world ...niller Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardigras Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 Yep- *obviously* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted July 18, 2018 Author Share Posted July 18, 2018 Yep...and the deadweight issue deadsheet?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxie Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 17 minutes ago, Thomass said: Yep...and the deadweight issue deadsheet?? So you will be asking for how much lead is carried to be declared in the interests of punters? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted July 18, 2018 Author Share Posted July 18, 2018 Punters know that now with all walking weights declared... ...are you saying it doesn't make a difference?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxie Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 I don't believe a kg equals a length. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted July 19, 2018 Author Share Posted July 19, 2018 Each to their own...I use 3kgs=2L...obviously superior riding styles correspond with successful apps and not all are the same... ..so what's your opinion on deadweight and what does a Kg = iyo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardigras Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 You should consider going on a roadshow giving talks on how punters can improve their punting. It would be a sellout. So long as the promoter advertised it as a stand up comedy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted July 19, 2018 Author Share Posted July 19, 2018 Coming from the Donald of 'analysis'... 1Kg=00000000000000000.1L Comedy Gold Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardigras Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 23 minutes ago, Thomass said: Coming from the Donald of 'analysis'... 1Kg=00000000000000000.1L Comedy Gold More like winning gold. And I think that 0.1L per kg 'generally' might be on the generous side. Very easy to model, but impossible for you to understand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryb Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 I am with M, its on the generous side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted July 19, 2018 Author Share Posted July 19, 2018 17 hours ago, barryb said: I am with M, its on the generous side. Methinks you do an awful lot of hunting with hares and Hounds bazz Bazz "and this neddy get 4kgs off...a big advantage...just get on" Next Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted July 19, 2018 Author Share Posted July 19, 2018 20 hours ago, mardigras said: More like winning gold. And I think that 0.1L per kg 'generally' might be on the generous side. Very easy to model, but impossible for you to understand. You need to convince an awful lot of industry heavyweights...you know those with a bit Of gravitas...like Waller ...ask him if he thinks importing Kiwi apps...with all that experience...then receiving back their allowances with fewer 'city' winners in Nz... ...makes a difference... Waller v Mardi grass mmmm...gee...hard call Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryb Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 22 minutes ago, Thomass said: Methinks you do an awful lot of hunting with hares and Hounds bazz Bazz "and this neddy get 4kgs off...a big advantage...just get on" Next Zero facts again from you Thomass to support any bullshit statement you create. You better get back to the princess, shes busy on tinder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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