curious Posted August 7, 2018 Posted August 7, 2018 3 hours ago, Thomass said: ...and do you treat '3 wide in the Open' the same as 'perfect trail' like your lovely Mardi does? No, I don't consider luck in the running at all sorry. If you have a reliable way of quantifying that the I'm all ears. 1 1 Quote
mardigras Posted August 7, 2018 Author Posted August 7, 2018 That last bit from the resident loser is classic. I'll guess this much here, this much for that. I'll add a bit for blinkers on, more if down in grade. And after all that, still can't work out why he has to keep putting more money in his betting account. No wonder he won't put any selections up on here. He's afraid because he knows he's thick when it comes to this stuff. 1 Quote
barryb Posted August 7, 2018 Posted August 7, 2018 (edited) This is getting real embarrassing for you now T, You are miles out of your depth & your heads bobbing afloat, just, no ones coming to save you. Edited August 7, 2018 by barryb Quote
mardigras Posted August 7, 2018 Author Posted August 7, 2018 6 minutes ago, barryb said: This is getting real embarrassing for you now T, You are miles out of your depth & your heads bobbing afloat, just, no ones coming to save you. He'll be using the princess as a flotation device. Better not get another puncture! Quote
FeelTheFear Posted August 7, 2018 Posted August 7, 2018 2 minutes ago, mardigras said: He'll be using the princess as a flotation device. Better not get another puncture! yes, don't want her going down on him again, does his head in 1 1 Quote
curious Posted August 7, 2018 Posted August 7, 2018 OH..... nice shot of the princess being rescued. Has Thommo drifted out beyond reach or have the rescuers just given up on him? Quote
Thomass Posted August 7, 2018 Posted August 7, 2018 1 hour ago, barryb said: The other issue is Mardigras, Curious and myself have told you countless times that you are not doing form analysis, you are doing nothing more that supposition, most of it is based on rumour, unquantifiable formulas (actually no formulas exist, its all a wild guess), silly theories that are not tested with any substance, pure guesswork & after the event selections. Otherwise known as dreaming. It's a mathematical constant called Pi... you f in bogan moron munter... What f in school did you go to?? Lets hope you and Rid aren't breeding....and if you is... ...I'm preying to sweet Jesus that they've thrown to the mother... ...now wipe your eye liner off after skipping school and promise you'll go tomorrow ...to kindy Quote
barryb Posted August 7, 2018 Posted August 7, 2018 Digging hard into the swearing and insults, looks like you just went under T. Quote
Thomass Posted August 7, 2018 Posted August 7, 2018 42 minutes ago, curious said: Haven't done that for about 4 years because I no longer have the necessary data sorry. At least you didn't tick the like box for "actually no quantifiable formulas exist" You maybe redeemable... But your whole philosophy of treating horses like robots ...and the fact they're always in form... ...and a last start average performance...read 'form' ...is the same as being caught wide without cover.. Is relly relly concerning... Quote
barryb Posted August 7, 2018 Posted August 7, 2018 1 minute ago, Thomass said: At least you didn't tick the like box for "actually no quantifiable formulas exist" They exist T, just not in anything you are doing or have displayed. Quote
mardigras Posted August 7, 2018 Author Posted August 7, 2018 9 minutes ago, Thomass said: It's a mathematical constant called Pi... Oh my god. You actually believe a horse travelling further like that equates to a loss of that distance in the race. You better not bet on European racing ever. This is just further evidence of how out of touch you are. Boy this is funny. 1 Quote
Thomass Posted August 7, 2018 Posted August 7, 2018 10 minutes ago, barryb said: Digging hard into the swearing and insults, looks like you just went under T. I hate f in ignorami like you and Rid Bazz... Now I'm a kind person and it's kind to dumb animals day... ...so I withdraw and apologise Quote
mardigras Posted August 7, 2018 Author Posted August 7, 2018 3 minutes ago, Thomass said: I hate f in ignorami It's not very nice that you hate yourself. Maybe seek help for that Quote
Poisoned Dwarf Posted August 7, 2018 Posted August 7, 2018 19 hours ago, Thomass said: I hate f in ignorami like you and Rid Bazz... Now I'm a kind person and it's kind to dumb animals day... ...so I withdraw and apologise Hope you don't get withdrawal symptoms Quote
curious Posted August 7, 2018 Posted August 7, 2018 59 minutes ago, Thomass said: At least you didn't tick the like box for "actually no quantifiable formulas exist" You maybe redeemable... But your whole philosophy of treating horses like robots ...and the fact they're always in form... ...and a last start average performance...read 'form' ...is the same as being caught wide without cover.. Is relly relly concerning... Have you just worked that out - that horses aren't robots? That's exactly what I don't treat them as! Isn't that why you need to assess the percentage chance of a horse actually running up to it's fitness and ability and back it if the market has underestimated that? Quote
Thomass Posted August 7, 2018 Posted August 7, 2018 Au contrare...YOU TREAT THEM LIKE ROBOTS... ...when some race in form...some out of form...through any type of variation bevit track...or caught wide without cover ...but you and your sycophants believe 3L from the winner is just that...and make no excuses for unlucky runs... ...it's just bizarre Quote
curious Posted August 7, 2018 Posted August 7, 2018 I'm actually not that interested in their margin from the winner if they were unlucky Thommo. Quote
mardigras Posted August 7, 2018 Author Posted August 7, 2018 21 minutes ago, Thomass said: Au contrare...YOU TREAT THEM LIKE ROBOTS... ...when some race in form...some out of form...through any type of variation bevit track...or caught wide without cover ...but you and your sycophants believe 3L from the winner is just that...and make no excuses for unlucky runs... ...it's just bizarre What is bizarre is that you can't comprehend that many punters do not evaluate the performance of a horse "relative" to those around it. I don't. I don't care where it finishes. I don't care who it raced against. I don't care about anything the horse has done in a race relative to any other horse. I care about what it did itself in each of its races. And I don't care about what you call luck, since I can't quantify the impact of it. Neither can you. That's why i don't care whether it was black type or a maiden. Whether it raced at Gundagai or Flemington. And the key difference between you and all your so called analysis, is that you keep losing - yet the people you say do bizarre things, don't. 1 Quote
barryb Posted August 7, 2018 Posted August 7, 2018 (edited) I will go even further than Mardi above Thommo & say the only reason why I care where it finishes, the further back in the last 3 starts the more its likely to pay, as spoons like you cannot assess form & are busy looking for blocked runs, 3 wide with no cover, blinkers on, 3yr olds after Xmas & any other shit that can't help you win. I am prepared to handle long runs of outs & huge draw downs, you don't even have a grasp on the topic. Whilst you are busy looking for 3yr olds full of Xmas pud with blinkers on first time, using some dream't up margin diff based on a calculation method you got off Wikipedia, I like Mardi & Curious understand that time is far better spend looking for the best possible price. Back you go to the Princess, her warranty runs out soon. Edited August 7, 2018 by barryb Quote
curious Posted August 7, 2018 Posted August 7, 2018 I notice that Chatauqua ran 90 lengths from the winner in his trial yesterday. You might also say he was unlucky in that he was a bit slow away. I'm not quite sure how I'm supposed to relate either of those facts to my assessment of his ability or fitness Thommo. Please help. Quote
mardigras Posted August 7, 2018 Author Posted August 7, 2018 2 hours ago, curious said: I notice that Chatauqua ran 90 lengths from the winner in his trial yesterday. You might also say he was unlucky in that he was a bit slow away. I'm not quite sure how I'm supposed to relate either of those facts to my assessment of his ability or fitness Thommo. Please help. He no doubt spends hours using guesses to work out relative performance of horse A versus the winner. Does his adjustments for unlikely, wide without cover, slow away. But is incapable of understanding whether the performance of the winner was any good compared to the horses, horse A is now racing against. Quote
mardigras Posted August 7, 2018 Author Posted August 7, 2018 Let's put this discussion into perspective. On one hand we have thomass. So Mr Fraud, ask yourself this. Of all the people that disagree with you, why is it that at least they have managed to put some selections up pre-race. Prepared to be judged by that. Yet you continue to assert how great you are, and how right you are - yet are too scared to do that. What's the matter, the princess couldn't find your balls? He lacks credibility 100%. He's just an ignorant loser. 1 Quote
barryb Posted August 7, 2018 Posted August 7, 2018 46 minutes ago, mardigras said: Let's put this discussion into perspective. On one hand we have thomass. So Mr Fraud, ask yourself this. Of all the people that disagree with you, why is it that at least they have managed to put some selections up pre-race. Prepared to be judged by that. Yet you continue to assert how great you are, and how right you are - yet are too scared to do that. What's the matter, the princess couldn't find your balls? He lacks credibility 100%. He's just an ignorant loser. Post of the Year. Quote
Thomass Posted August 7, 2018 Posted August 7, 2018 Oh moi gawd... It really is like dealing to a bunch of beying teenage girls comparing teet sizes... At least these teens were taught basic sheet like MATHMATICAL CONSTANTS... like the Pi thingy... Of course REAL LIFE Form Analysts know this formula so well it slips out like taking a dump... While Bazza the bogan and Woddy wank are feeding each other chups ...not Pi Wake up ignorami r us....go back to punting kindy And of course the punting niller mardi née woddy wank said " I dont punt Australiasian much...but I really can't wait until they get GPS into HK" So you can't use a simple formula to analyse individual performance as I do... youre too f in stupid Quote
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