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I've seen some flighty fillies in my time but this Colt at the recent Karaka sales beats any filly hands down Savabeel colt made 240k with TA buying, vet check ongoing -
So that would rule out clubs like the CJC because it doesn't operate on freehold land of its own? Aside from that though, how do you see that your proposal would improve industry revenue? -
By Chief Stipe · Posted
I don't believe it is hindsight more head in the sand and Clubs running as Clubs not businesses. The Clubs that will surivive will have freehold land, low cost structures and the ability to earn other streams of revenue. Ideally they will have training facilities. They will be able to support at least 12 race meetings a year. I thought the Mesara Report was close but too harsh. Now after seeing the financials for the TAB and what was needed to bail it out coupled with visiting a few more racecourses in the last year I don't believe the Mesara Report went far enough. I did think at one stage the industry could work a rotation model of racing but the fact is that Clubs are not cooperative enough and are too financially constrained to work like that. -
Hindsight is always 20/20. So, what is you better model for the next decade or two? Put it up so we can consider and debate it. I think you'd agree that the current and proposed ones don't and won't work.
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the harness 5000 concept. i understood that was the concept, where they have a raceday with 60,000 finals, for horses 3 years and older, whose sire was a stallion who had a stud fee that cost $5000 or less. so what your saying is, theres breeders out there who have factored in king of swings stud fee making their mares foals eligible, in a minimum of 4 years time ,for a one off race day,as the reason why they chose king of swing. look,hey,you may be right. But are breeders who actually thought like that being smart or just a bit gullible? Would they be the same breeders who bred to nz stallions 2 or 3 years ago on the promise they would be paid a 10% bonus for stakemoney earned when their progeny, by nz bred stallions,raced in years to come.Now scrapped. or would they be the same people who factored in their progeny getting paid $12,000 bonuses when they had their first 2 year old win. That also doesn't apply anymore. I don't really keep up with the different bonuses that get announced each year ,just the ones that are announced with much fanfare,but i've noted the obvious,some are quietly scrapped 2 or 3 years later,without any chance of those who factored them in the year they bred,ever getting a chance to have an opportunity to earn them. so ,while i don't want to put a dampener on anyone who may think the big stakes and the big bonuses will still be around in 4 years, shouldn't they at the very least use some common sense thinking and take a very cautious approach to such hrnz promises. yes,i know,mr steele has assured everyone that things are looking really positive and are on the right track and there will continue to be all this cash just sloshing around to be paid for the likes of bonuses,after the entain money has been spent,but wheres that money coming from and is that realistic thinking? i mean,for a stud it may be a good marketing ploy to promote the harness 5000 factor to breeders considering a sire,but have i missed something,as its it appears nothing more thanwishful think on the part of brrders. My guess would be,maybe there will be a harness 5000 in 4 years,maybe not,but the stakes will be reduced significantly if they still exist.
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