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So @TAB For Ever how did Mesara come to the conclusions he did?

You obviously know SFA about horses and racing.

So what would have Quintessa done if it hadn't been whipped 2 extra times? Stop? Lose all momentum?

I didn't use a watch I looked at the official sectionals which are available to all. But as with most of what you write it is laced with hyperbole and fluff rather than factual substance. I don't know what planet the Judge was on or whether you were pissed by race 5 but the official sectionals are not those. Maybe the Judge doesn't have access to the app that gives the accurate measurements or he doesn't know how to use it. I only get grumpy with the fluff merchants such as yourself that make things up and belt out the same old marketing propaganda hype while avoiding the real issues. As for times - correct me if I'm wrong but in one of your marketing pieces on this thread you mentioned them first. But times are important and until the majority of our Jockeys can assess pace and tempo then we are going to sit and sprint races. Mind you the contour and shape of Ellerslie is conducive to that! I guess you were at the ENTAIN tables at The Winning Post bar on Saturday?

Iconic my arse. Once the hill was gone all sense of iconism went with it. What do the contours and shape of the track do for the horses and punting? That's the key metric to measure against not some long lost nostalgia! Who made the descision to experiment with 300mm of sand rather than go with the tried and true Strathayr forumla? He was wrong. But in saying that on what page does he say that? I've attached the report for your convenience. Regardless $50 spent at Ellerslie and still not a decent track. Foxton is a decent track. So you admit after three meetings it isn't great. When can we expect the turn around? Given they don't appear to have fixed the fundational structural issues with the track in order to maintain iconism how is it ever going to be great? Review-of-the-NZ-Racing-Industry-Report.pdf

How many riders would you put in front of her in NZ?

Ever heard of do it once do it well? Saves time and money in the long run. Why change a tried and true method? I can's see how 300mm of sand is going to improve much. Grass grows in clumps on sand dunes and a racecourse isn't a links golf course. Really? They've just laid what is an experimental track on the same contours of the old track with all its deficiencies!! Where from? Stop moth ballling decent tracks and when you do build a new track makes sure you fix the deficiencies of the previous one and use a tried and true method NOT reinvent the wheel to save $4m.

Very rarely do you see her make a huge error in judgement on the track.

So in the context of Kah given she rides for all the top stables?

So you are barking at the wind?

I'm not upset at all. But you are the one with a new bone.

Kowhitirangi. I think you'll find the pub was the Kokatahi Hotel in Kokatahi. My family were the first settlers in the area - hence having a mountain named after us. The Kokatahi Hotel not to be confused with the Longford.

Hell you are an arrogant sod. WHY should ANYONE reach out to you? Try reaching out to THEM - you can even do it anonymously! GET IN TOUCH Contact Us General Enquiries info@racingintegrityboard.org.nz 04 499 1090 or 0800 100 313 Postal Address Racing Integrity Board Private Bag 17902 Greenlane Auckland 1546 Integrity Line Make an anonymous report about integrity issues in the racing industry by contacting the independent Integrity Line on 0508 RIB 123 (0508 742 123) or by completing an online form.

You're the one making the accusations - you ring him. Quite frankly I don't believe anything you write.

Chazza this is about as much heat you are able to put on:

Exactly which is why you published it. Why don't walk the walk instead of just talking the talk and lay a complaint? https://www.bsa.govt.nz/complaints/make-a-complaint

Right and you re-publish it. If you have an issue with it there are other avenues to formally object.

Running 1:12 for a 1200m Grp1. What's that tell you about the track and or tempo.

Only 2 of the winners ran home in under 34 seconds.

I'm not sure what races you were watching but it wasn't Ellerslie. Many races dictated by slow early tempos and sprint home. I suspect the Jockey's were psyched out by the rail being out 5m from the 1000m resulting in a poorly cambered 600m+ sweeping bend with variable surface conditions.

I hope the others learn from the mistakes Ellerslie has made with their $50m effort.

Your anti-Kah bias clouds your judgement. Her strike rate is currently better than JMac.

I disagree. The biggest issue is the fact most races are slow early tempo and sprint home. That has very little to do with the track That said the track surface isn't holding up as well as it should and there are definitely good and bad lanes.

Why anyone would bother responding to Chazza online I have no idea.

Have you given Kingston a call yet?