Chief Stipe

Only Trainers would. The Owners paid for that. Te Akau have 8 times that in Stakes winnings for only twice as many starts. But let's not talk about that. Given I'm apparently a TA Idol.

That wasn't the point. They trainers listed are all within 5 wins of each other. @Pitman has had 370 starts - 200 more than Furlong. Both have the same number of wins.

Actually I'll answer my own question. @Pitman is at 12 (11.97 R. Dennis 7.7 Parson's 7.2 Tyler 8.1 Furlong 5.55 Anderton 8.46.

Which one is at 11?

So you'd be quite happy being referred to as a "horsewoman"?

Great promotion and photo.

Yes well it takes another woman to understand a woman.

It would be interesting though.

Perhaps you should also list the strike rates by Trainer.

Obviously not which I also understand. Tracks are going to be all consuming for some time and from my perspective that's the priority rather than virtue signalling. I'd rather have a horse with a sore arse than a stuffed leg.

FFS @Huey it was just a circular notifying that the non-inclusive language had been removed. For example horseman has probably been changed to horseperson or licensed trainer etc. From a legal perspective it makes sense. No big deal. But I guess it is something else for the disenfranchised GOM's to moan about online.

Do they? I doubt you view every race in the world let alone any inside view which very few jurisdictions do or can afford to do. This crusade of yours only feeds the minority. A bigger concern in my opinion is the safety of the tracks and I find it ironic that @Thomass has very little or anything to say on that subject especially his beloved Trenthan. But then who am I other than a narcissistic know all that provides a forum where you can have an anonymous identity to express your views.

@Thomass I've told you I don't want photos like this published as they are misleading at best. It is a bit like slo-mo in High Definition on the Rugby field. In real time the average viewer doesn't see anything. Let alone the anti-racing minority who don't even watch the races because it is so appalling to their senses.

The point is the other Jockey may have as well but it can't be policed. Therefore if the rule can't be enforced evenly it is an arse.

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Take this image for example what does it prove? Nothing. However in the context of the Topic it was posted under it infers a lot. That's misinformation. Of course you can't see where the other Jockey was whipping their horse because there is no vision of it even for the Stewards. A rule that can't be accurately enforced.

On BOAY these posters would be warned (as they should be under @Comic Dog rules) for stating things out of context and without proof. However I guess the quest for traffic out weighs principles. Of course BUCKY hasn't got the spine to state who he is referring to but just tells a story full of inferences. @Comic Dog if you are following your own rules then where is the "proof" that there are rules for some and not others?

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@Comic Dog I HAVEN'T closed the debate down here. My objection is the selective snap shots of TV video to depict something that may or may not have happened as described. @nomates that isn't an accusation of Photo Shopping not that you would know what photo shopping is let alone know how to do it (how's that for "know all narcissim" for you? BTW you've been warned). So if in the quest for more traffic you are willing to allow misinformation to be posted (selective at that as you are inconsistent in your application of YOUR rules) then go for it @Comic Dog. Not that you have the intelligence or the nous to know what is or isn't misinformation or image manipulation. BOAY WILL allow debate on the whip rules and their enforcement but draw the line at images being posted that are out of context. I note that the only person to identify the alleged flank hitting was @Thomass - no one else saw it or even commented on it. As I have said before I've drawn the line at BOAY being used for misinformation that weaponises the anti-racing brigade with it. The Greyhound industry had individuals doing that and look where that ended up.

Yep that makes sense no conspiracy. $1,334 x$2.5 = $3,335 Subtract $2,000 and you get $1,335 which is close enough.

Then get your camera out and take those birdcage photo's and send them privately to the Stewards!!! Ask for a response! To do anything else is just feeding the active anti-racing minority!! The rules can't effectively be enforced because the Stewards can only see one side of the horse if there are no horses outside it! Good luck looking for where the whip lands from the head on!

No but I don't take too much of the one's provided by ENTAIN either. You can see that in other posts I've made for example not only are the form lines wrong but the stats are too. A few weeks ago they had a horse with heavy track form and it had never raced past Soft. That was because the Racing and Sports system doesn't pick up upgrades it only uses that notified at the beginning of the day. Further to we all know that the track rating before Race 1 is a nonsense at Trentham and Riccarton.

Last throw of the dice by a punter? Or the last leg of a multi?

I'm not into censorship at all - the Comic Dog's site is - I've got many examples of that sent to me where posts have been deleted or refused for no other reason than who posted them i.e. no rules broken - no abuse etc. However I don't want BOAY to become a vehicle for the anti-racing mob as the BOAY Greyhound forum did driven by the likes of @Yankiwi. So a Topic where out of context snapshots of whip strikes are posted is something I don't want. Yes debate the rules and their enforcement but snapshot photos from a TV are out of context. For example - yes a Jockey may have hit a horse on the flank and there may well be the appearance of a welt but it isn't necessarily fact. The picture will be a millisecond in time and yes there could well be an indentation just like when you push your finger into your arm but it is gone just as instantly or certainly isn't a visible welt when back in the birdcage. The Anti-racing brigade have no hesitation in taking such a photo and going "Look!!! Animal abuse..." I know for a fact they did that with @Yankiwi 's material which was circulated to certain anti-racing Journalists. The material was false. The small percentage of active anti-racing types are too lazy to do it themselves. So create rules we can't enforce and KPI metrics that we can't manage? We shoot ourselves in the feet enough as it is.

Isn't that how Sleeper selling works or even a bakery? The bakery isn't worried about your obesity - "would you like another cream donut with that custard square?"