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Well $10k wouldn't fix the public toilets let alone the electronic race timing. Trentham was doomed they stopped being a training centre.

Racing Taupo Races 6-8 Abandoned Meeting Newshttps://bitofayarn.com Racing Taupo Races 6-8 Abandoned Due to unsafe track conditions Races 6-8 at Racing Taupo Wednesday 17 September have been abandoned. More information to follow

That is a well thought out comment by you @Newmarket. Perhaps by your standards you should apply for his job.

Greyhound racing ban: Bid to stall work until judicial review denied www.rnz.co.nzhttps://bitofayarn.com A bid to stall work on implementing the ban on greyhound racing - pending the outcome of a judicial review - has been denied by the High Court in Wellington. Last December, Racing Minister Winston Peters announced the sport would be banned in 2026. In August lawyers for the Greyhound Racing Association (GRA) argued to the High Court the work of a ministerial advisory committee - tasked with implementing the ban - should be stopped, until a judicial review of the legislation was heard. https://bitofayarn.com They said the ban would have a devastating effect on the livelihoods of more than 1000 people and the minister had failed to consult with the Racing Integrity Board's (RIB) and to take into account measures to improve animal welfare in the industry. On Monday Justice Dale La Hood issued his ruling declining the application for interim relief. He said Cabinet's decision to ban greyhound racing was "not subject to any legal yardsticks" and there was no statutory duty to consult with the RIB. La Hood said the GRA had failed to make a strong case that the minister was required to go beyond the information provided by the RIB that was presented to Cabinet ahead of the decision. https://bitofayarn.com "The executive is not unlawfully implementing the ban without legislative authority by requiring members of greyhound racing clubs to cease greyhound racing while it is still lawful," La Hood concluded. He said evidence linking the consequences of the ban to the call for the work to be delayed was "weak". "Although there can be little doubt that participants in the industry are preparing for the fact that Parliament may ultimately enact the proposed legislation, there is no evidence specifically addressing whether the orders now sought (disavowing any attempt to delay the legislative process) would have any material effect on those consequences (logic and common sense would suggest not)," La Hood wrote.

How much did the Club contribute to that?

They don't even have enough money to fix the electronic timing. No doubt the soil structure is stuffed as well.

The UK is worse.

Really? Based on what? The rock hard shute? The inconsistent irrigation? Variable footing all round.

@curious and @Thomass can you take your purile whip counting games over to the Premier Anti-racing site? Thanks.

You are very adept at taking quotes out of context. I was referring to your statement about the Turkey case and the inference you made. Based on what? Again you haven't done any analysis just pulled a figure out of the air. You're as bad as @JJ Flash or are you one and the same? As a starting point and to simply things for you I suggest you compare the Sportsbet SOC and the outcome which was an agreement to an enforceable undertaking. No fine of any consequence. Take particular note of the turnover.

You have bothered to read much of the Statement of Claim. Yes there are some issues after ENTAIN bought Ladbrokes and Neds however they are a continuation of the issues identified starting much earlier i.e. before ENTAIN purchased. ENTAIN took and undertaking to address those issues So I wasn't incorrect. No I haven't left out anything. I've done the comparison and posted my analysis here. I'm asking for your analysis rather than an unjustified inference.

Obviously. How did you arrive at $250m? What AUSTRAC case penalty outcome are you comparing it to?

It is nothing like the Turkey case. That was an issue with bribery and corruption. How are the claims the same? If you haven't read the AUSTRAC vs ENTAIN tome then how do you draw the conclusions you do? Plus it appears that you haven't done any comparative analysis with other AUSTRAC case outcomes. In terms of claims the ENTAIN one is at the low end of the scale by comparison to the banks - WESTPAC, CBA and Casinos such as CROWN etc. You are scaremongering to the uninformed.

I might add that the ENTAIN share price is still significantly up over the last 6 months. 35% currently after a correction due to @curious 's profit taking. ENTAIN shares still have a BUY assessement by major investment advisers.

As I've repeatedly posted and which you repeatedly refuse to accept or cogently debate the Crown Casino cases were several quantum above the Statement of Claim (now diminished) filed against AUSTRAC. The accounting book entry at this stage is just that a book entry to represent a potential liability. That said if you look at comparative cases it is at the high end of potential liability. If you are willing to debate that point then please feel free to. But posting out of context quotes laced with supposition for whatever motivation is becoming boring. So here is a challenge to @Kit Walker based on your reading of the now diminished statement of claim when compared to the outcomes of previously completed AUSTRAC cases what penalty and/or enforceable action do you see ENTAIN facing at the conclusion of the legal process? NOTE: Saying I don't know or I'm not interested isn't an answer. I also say to @Kit Walker if you are going to quote from other publications please provide a reference cite so readers can assess the context more reliably than just reading your excerpts.

Well @Kit Walker that is a mishmash of out of context quotes for thw doomsayers to dine on. I see even @Freda has joined that team. I see mediation so far has been successful for ENTAIN with a significant part of the AUSTRAC claim being dropped. You haven't mentioned that. As has been pointed out many times the quantum of the remaining claims are comparatively less than the other cases AUSTRAC have taken. So to associate with the Turkish bribery and corruption case is disingenuous at best. The employees at the centre of that case have long been flushed out of the ENTAIN organisation. Although they are facing individually criminal charges in the UK.

If it is just for 1 year when will they announce the full renovation programme of work to bring Trentham up to scratch?

Well as some of us with eyes wide open have been saying for some time the Champagne Turf is more like a flat bottle of Lion Red opened a week ago.

Anyone with half a brain could see that Trentham was stuffed. The track is in very poor condition and no sign of remedial work being undertaken. No facilities for the general public and not enough funds to.even fuz the photo finish/electronic timing system for some years now. Only the die hard kept in the dark WRC members refused to see what was happening.

New Zealand Oaks moving to Ellerslie to save Group 1 status www.nzherald.co.nz https://bitofayarn.com Leica Lucy (right) and Craig Grylls won the NZ Oaks at Trentham in March. Photo/Peter Rubery Some because they can’t hold their form until its mid-March date, others because trainers prefer to head to the NZ Derby two weeks earlier or the ATC Oaks in Sydney three weeks after. Others trainers will, in slightly more hushed tones, suggest they don’t want their fillies to endure the road trip to Wellington and back from major horse centres like Cambridge and Matamata at the end of a long season or if they are considering future Australian options. Those factors all play a part in the Oaks not meeting the required ratings to satisfy the Asian Pattern Committee for the past three years, prompting them to vote on its future. The Oaks being demoted to Group 2 would be enormously embarrassing to the NZ industry and would devalue the race in the eyes of trainers, owners and future breeders looking to buy into the families of those who win it. The Oaks, sponsored by Al Basti Equiworld Dubai, will now be held at Ellerslie on February 21, two weeks before the NZ Derby, meaning fillies who perform well in the Oaks have the option to start in the Derby. It is also seen as a better pathway to races like the ATC Oaks held in Sydney in early April. While the decision will annoy or even anger trainers of some three-year-old staying fillies based in the Central Districts, recent moves of races like the weight-for-age Group 1 Proisir Plate to Ellerslie have proved popular with larger stables. One reason is Ellerslie is closer to the major training centres than Central Districts tracks such as Hastings or Trentham. Just as crucially, Ellerslie, after a rocky start with its new StrathAyr track, is seen as a reliable surface likely to race in the preferred Good 4 to Soft 6 range with less chance of a dreaded abandonment. NZTR have been vocal lately though of its continued support for Central Districts racing and are investigating the building of a new Greenfields track in Flaxmere, outside Hastings, to ensure the future of Hawkes Bay racing. It will not all be one-way traffic with the Group 1 changes next season too as the NZ Thoroughbred Breeders Stakes will move from Ellerslie to Awapuni. The race was held on Champions Day at Ellerslie last year but will now head to Awapuni as part of their Sires’ Produce meeting on March 28 next year. That is a return to its traditional position at the end of the summer racing season and back to being one of the last Group 1s of the term. It will create a mammoth meeting for the newly refurbished Awapuni track, with the Sires’ Produce and Breeders Stakes both Group 1s as well as three other black type races on the same card. There will be changes to lead-up races for the Oaks and the Breeders Stakes to provide the smoothest pathways for horses being aimed at them. The $150,000 Jennian Homes Lowland Stakes will now be held at Trentham on January 31, three weeks out from the Oaks. The $200,000 Wentwood Grange Cuddle Stakes will now be held at Awapuni on March 1, four weeks out from the NZ Breeders Stakes while the $600,000 Westbury Classic, which was held on Karaka Millions night this year, will move to Champions Day, three weeks before the NZ Breeders Stakes. The $90,000 Westbury Stud Royal Descent Stakes will move from Boxing Day to Karaka Millions night to provide mares with an opportunity at that meeting. NZTR chief executive Matt Ballesty said the Group 1 changes underline their commitment to safeguarding the strength of our elite racing. “Our Group 1 races are the pinnacle of the sport,” says Ballesty. “These decisions are not taken lightly but they are essential to keep NZ racing strong and competitive on the world stage."

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So you've had your wings clipped elsewhere AGAIN. I'm sure you can find somewhere else to post your dribble.

Why don't you ask your friends on NZ's Premier Anti-Racing Forum why they didn't question Opies ride on @nomates horse at Cambridge last week? Seems to be horses for courses this selective harassment of Jockeys.