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Rule Number(s): 642(1)Folllowing the running of Race 3, "The Bidding Ends at 3pm on Gavelhouse Plus 3yo" an Information was filed by Mr Marsh instigating a protest pursuant to Rule 642(1). The Informant alleged that the horse CAPTAIN TOM provisionally placed 1st by the Judge interfered with the chances of DARCI DIVA placed ... (Feed generated with FetchRSS)View the full article

Lead tends to slow you down.

What the hell are you on about Forbury?

For a start the second study was an analysis of Stewards reports which are subjective in themselves. They also compared the non-whip races ridden by Apprentices vs whip races ridden by some Apprentices and fully fledged Jockey's.

Spot the flaws in the research methodology.

We were talking about banning whips completely. However the rules vary between jurisdictions. These are the rules in the UK: https://www.thepja.co.uk/service/whip-use/#:~:text=Whip Rules,whip in some other way. UK Whip Rules The permitted number of uses of the whip with hands off the reins is 7 times for Flat races and 8 times for Jumps race. Stewards will consider whether to hold an enquiry if a rider has used his whip 8 times or more in a Flat race or 9 times or more in a Jump race or misused the whip in some other way. When deciding whether or not to hold an enquiry, Stewards will consider how the rider has used the whip during the course of the entire race, with particular attention to its use in the closing stages, and relevant factors such as: The manner in which the whip was used, including the degree of force The purpose for which the whip was used The distance over which the whip was used and whether the number of times it was used was reasonable and necessary Whether the horse was continuing to respond. Provided that the manner in which the whip had been used was measured, Stewards may choose to disregard occasions when the whip has been used in the following circumstances: All Races To keep a horse in contention or to maintain a challenging position prior to what would be considered the closing stages of a race To maintain a horse’s focus and concentration To correct a horse that is noticeably hanging Where there is only light contact with the horse Jump Races Following a mistake at an obstacle To correct a horse that is running down an obstacle. Stewards may be less tolerant about should a rider use the whip 8 times or more in a Flat race or 9 times or more in a Jump race: When the horse is young or inexperienced When a rider continues to use the whip when not being directly challenged for a finishing position When a rider fails to recognise that his use of the whip is not having the intended effect.

Did you get Black Balled from the BGP Thomarse?

Geez you are the master of obfuscation! I asked for links to the science that show horses experience pain. Once you have done that can you then provide us with some evidence that there is a causative link between the whip, pain and horses going faster. With regard to your "Dan the Punting Expert" - can you provide us with links to his data that provides evidence to support his assertion that whipping makes horses go faster.

I mean "scientific research" not some punter's musings!

I said Matamata but you asked for a race meeting not a trial meeting. As mentioned in another thread most of the Cambridge trainers pitched up at Matamata instead of the their own AWT.

What's your point? At least Hart tendered for the purchase of Government Print which like a lot of Government "assets" at the time was underperforming in terms of return on capital. Hart paid the Government $12m for it. Compare that to the steal by NZ Racing of $100m in handouts from the Government in the last 12 months alone! I don't see NZ Racing multiplying that "investment" by a comparable amount to what Hart has done! More than likely they'll be back within a year asking for more!

What's the point when the main racing surface is stuffed? If Riccarton trainers are taking their horses elsewhere at the moment to gallop them what does that tell you about the main turf track? Where is the funding coming from to fix that? Is there a strategic plan to do that? Or will Riccarton become solely an AWT racing venue?

Nor is the PGF the complete funder of any of the three. Up to $6m needs to be found from the each club. That $6m would have gone a long way to fix the Riccarton Turf track which as you know is a complete disaster zone at the moment. We have traversed the Cambridge Jockey Club AWT funding at length before. The Cambridge Jockey Club is not the majority funder of their AWT the PGF is. NZTR underwrote them initially by $400k so they could secure funding. If the cost exceeded $12.7m then NZTR promised to pitch up with $700k. Will be interesting to see in the accounts what the transactions ended up being unless of course if they are hidden within a particular account. If anyone could have funded their own AWT it was the Cambridge Jockey Club with the number of horses that are trained there - 1,200. Not only did they not completely fund it they ended up turning their "training facility" into a new racing venue!

You still haven't posted any links to any reputable research.

Rule Number(s): Rule 638(3)(b)(ii)Following the running of the DUNSTAN HORSEFEEDS 1600 an Information was lodged by Senior Stipendiary Steward Mr M Williamson against Rider Mr S Weatherley alleging that Mr Weatherley (the Rider of WATCH THIS SPACE) used his whip excessively prior to the 100 metres mark. Rule 638(3)(b)(ii) provides : ... (Feed generated with FetchRSS)View the full article

Hardly a gift. It wasn't exactly a profitable business at the time. He borrowed $12m to buy it - sold it. Invested elsewhere and is now worth $12 Billion. I guess he didn't invest in racehorses or All Weather Tracks.

Ash Vegas?

From my personal perspective it isnt about supporting a particular party it is about supporting what works. At the moment NZ'S political party's are just playing the polls.

Well this Government is coming for it.

Well it is going to get a whole lot worse. So how bad was your "life" under National?

NO! Under a Labour Government?!

$9 here

So more than one meeting? Shit if they don't put out after the second there is no third!

Has to be Ruakaka then. Verry Elleegant and Catalyst and..

Te Akau Shark Te Akau Shark has died in New Zealand. Photo: Mark Evans/Getty Images HORSES Star galloper Te Akau Shark put down in NZ Article Author Mitch Cohen 11:01AM04 February 2021 0 Comments Kiwi cult hero Te Akau Shark has been humanely put down following complications from a rare eye condition. The gun son of Rip Van Winkle had to be put down after becoming blind in both eyes following a difficult health battle. Te Akau Shark went blind in one eye after surgery in Australia last year before contracting pneumonia which unfortunately resulted in the condition spreading. Te Akau Shark (orange) winning the Chipping Norton Stakes. Photo: AAP Image/Simon Bullard) Te Akau Racing made the decision to euthanise their star galloper and confirmed the tragic news on Thursday morning. “It is with immense pain and sadness that we announce that our beloved Te Akau Shark has lost his brave health battle,” a statement read. “A true warrior, Darryl (stable name) your heart and courage, your determination and kindness, lit up the lives of everyone privileged to know you – as well as those who admired you from afar. Te Akau Shark with connections. Photo: Jenny Evans/Getty Images “You made us laugh, you made us proud, you brought so much joy – we fell in love with you over and over again, every single day with your quirky personality. Your owners, our team, the racing world. “You changed lives and left your inedible hoof prints stamped all over our hearts. Our grief has no words.” Te Akau Racing announced just days before Christmas that the talented five-year-old had been retired after the popular gelding failed to make a full recovery from a rare eye condition. He has been off the scene since a fifth placing in the Group 1 Queen Elizabeth Stakes at Randwick last April when he narrowly beat home star stablemate Melody Belle. Te Akau Shark in the lead up to the Cox Plate. Photo: AAP Image/Vince Caligiuri The six-year-old was a Group 1 winner in both New Zealand and Australia, claiming the BCD Sprint at Te Rapa before winning the Chipping Norton Stakes at his next start at Randwick. Perhaps his best performance on the big stage came when Te Akau Shark finished third in the 2019 Cox Plate behind Lys Gracieux and Castelvecchio. Te Akau Shark banked $1.5 million in prizemoney for connections, which included former Cronulla Sharks captain-turned-heavyweight boxer Paul Gallen, with the outstanding record of seven wins and five placings from just 14 starts.