Chief Stipe

I read the annual report and provided the correct figure.

Why didn't you get it right the first time?

Perhaps it would have been worse. You obviously didn't understand consolidated accounts. For all you know the first 5 months might have been crap and the last month more than "creaming it".

So where did you get the $10.8m personnel and associated cost from?

In my opinion what I think you are advocating will do the opposite i.e. will be worse for "horse and human welfare". We are about to see thousands of Greyhounds cast out to a life that will be far worse for their health and welfare. So a big YES to your question - what you are advocating will eventually achieve the opposite. Perhaps that is what you want. At the end of the day if you, @Freda , @Thomass and the @Comic Dog were honest you would admit you are Anti-Racing and late to that party by decades.

No. The UK is a basket case financially and the Government has to find revenue from everywhere. From what I've read the UK is close to flash point and significant civil unrest. I wouldn't be quoting anything from that hell hole at the moment. Go Woke You Go Broke. You should take heed of that @curious .

Well it is crap research to start with but I guess adherence to the scientific method has long gone. I imagine you and the @Comic Dog will be struggling to find Jockeys to ride your horses considering you've bagged most of them.

I wouldn't be surprised that you didn't mail it to him personally.

Seen a few knock off really quickly when they get to the front easily.

Perhaps @curious should send Marco Smith the research that he has that indicates they go slower when the whip is used!!!!

LOL where did you do that poll? If that was correct why do the "bulk of racing people includng leadership" keep putting the same Jockeys on their horses? What will be your next single issue crusade? You have the makings of another @Yankiwi . BTW the NZTR annual report has a salary and personnel cost of $5.8 million. Where did you get the extra $5m from?

Good well you just go back to your single issue focus on NZ's Premier Anti-Racing Channel.

Yes the petition is doing really well at attracting 60 signatures. Hardly a well worded or constructed petition. @curious won't be signing it as he supports racing so I'm surprised he is commenting on it.

Well done Wiremu. Thrown off 4 times in the prelim. Rides the horse round to the start with no irons. Calms the horse down, jumps a bit slow but not pushed, took the short path up the inside and bolts in!

12% growth in NGR disappointing? You're a hard marker. I know plenty of businesses who'd love to have that in today's economic climate. We'll see in 12 months. Bonus offers are a cost or at best a discount offered to customers. Either way they narrow the profit margin. You can't buy customers forever. But importantly wagering turnover was down in OZ but ENTAIN did better than most. You'll see all providers pulling back on incentives. Time to get your big boy pants on and stop relying on freebies to turn a profit or have less losses.

Well there you go @Newmarket looks like ENTAIN could be heading for 50%+ growth!! Could be even more if @Brodie is allowed to bet and has a bad run!

We don't know that BETCHA "was the Ace Card". We only know that online wagering was up 18% NGR. Who knows "whats gonna happen in another 12 months". We do know that they have improved NGR and increased the number of active customers by 10%. Hopefully both those trends continue. I'm confident that they have further cost cutting on the agenda which will improve their margin and new products and systems improvements lined up. Afterall ENTAIN is operating in a Global Market and I'm sure any systems or product developments in their global product range will be tested and implemented in the NZ market. Perhaps their will be an increase in NGR to offset @curious and @Newmarket not betting in NZ anymore.

That might be what you "meant" but you didn't explicitly state that. As I pointed out 2 of the five did arguably "go on with it". At least 3 of the 5 had injuries or conditions that limited their careers. Both In The Bubbles and Velocious had wind issues that didn't respond to treatment. Tokyo Tycoon had leg issues although did win the El Roca as a three year old. Arguably his career may have been different if he wasn't disqualified from his Sistema Grp 1 win by an unfortunate accidental positive. Cool Aza Beel has gone on to do it in the breeding barn. The first son of the mighty Savabeel to sire a Grp 1 winner. I guess it all depends on how you measure "success". If we look deeper into the Velocious KM win we see a very deep field containing a number of horses that HAVE gone on with it. The likes of Damask Rose, Bellatrix Star and Savaglee. Some go on and some don't. Some crops are stronger than others. Fir example the 2023 crop seems to have been exceptional.

I'll make it nicely simple for you. Ma and Pa Kettle Bakery Conglomerate have one core brand. Uncle MacGregors Wholegrain Breads and Buns. A successful business. One day Ma says to Pa "we are missing out on revenue from the younger generation. Little Dolly has an idea. Her friend @Newmarket while not the target market loves her Creamy Jammy Donuts. Why don't we create a new brand called Dolly's Donuts 😋 🍩 ?" So part way through the financial year Dolly's Donuts is launched. Now the Ma and Pa Conglomerate have to report to the financial markets as they are one of the few publicly listed companies in Ekatahuna. The main investors are the Kettle Clan and the Pots. Ma being a Pot before marrying a Kettle - but that isn't relevant. So to the financial reports. Internally they measure what Dolly's doing - they monitor her closely as she tends to spend a bit. They measure their other brands seperately too which has been going ever since 100 years ago Great Great Grandad Kettle found a flat piece of fertile land in the Hawkes Bay and started a flour mill. A subsidiary is the Flour Mill and Farm but doesn't make much money. They report their brands and products consolidated accounts to the markets. So in their latest report (they report twice yearly - the Pots are a nosey lot) they only have 6 months of Dolly's revenue but it is going so well that Dolly contributed 18% extra to the overall net revenue. Overall retail was down mainly due to a few managers running off with the till, a couple of ram raids, a shift in demographics in some regions and a tendency to buy more online. Overall the Ma and Pa Kettle Conglomerate Ltd had a year on year increase in net revenue. Dolly got a new car. The Mk2 Escort handed down from Great Uncle Randy had finally given up. Dolly was expecting a brand new Mercedes AMG 1 but instead got a nice Suzuki Swift in the company colours of Red and Black. It had to be explained to Dolly that although her Creamy Jammy Donuts had contributed so much to the Conglomerate revenue it was still only a part of the whole business. So Betcha is a new brand with different products targeting a different market to the TAB. ENTAIN reports on the consolidated accounts from both brands. Hence the valid year on year comparison. ENTAINS New Zealand business across all brands is up 12% net. To make it even more nicely simpler the previous year the ENTAIN accounts only had a number of products and one brand. The next year they had a new brand Betcha and more products. They only reported on the consolidated. It isn't necessary to report on each individual brand to the nosey Pots. Since they bought the whole business they would have obtained previous years accounts and customer data against which they can do comparative reporting.

I see NZ's Premier Anti-racing Forum is over it with negativity. @curious would like more stakes for his punter funded plodders.

Dynastic the only one of your list to not "go on" and the only one to get close to the Aussie bush. Not that Avoca is really the Aussie bush. Only 2 hours out of Melbourne. If they are the worst of them then they haven't done too badly. I note that 4 out of the 5 you chose were Te Akau trained. Are you in the same smoko room as @Huey Of the KM winners there are ones that didn't achieve as much. But you left them out.

Velocious Grp 1 winner and 2yr old of the year. Went in the wind. Sold for $2.6m.

Cool Aza Beel $700k, 4 wins, Grp 1 Sistema. Retired to stud as first Grp 1 winning son of Savabeel. From first crop 2024-25 produced Cool Archie Winner of the Grp 1 JJ Atkins.