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Everything posted by Chief Stipe
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Thats what I said.
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You miss the point I made. None of them have spelt out the financial reality. None of them have put the numbers in their face and said what do you want? A long slow death or racing to continue?
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Well Rooke learnt that the horse doesn't have a turm of foot (you need one to win a MC) but is a solid stayer. So why the hell sit back on a slow pace? In my opinion thats what is killing NZ racing. Get to the front, stack, sit, sprint.
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The basis of your analysis is that the punter loses. Correct?
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So you disagee?
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I actually think Rooke is a breath of fresh air. He analyses each ride and adapts. His ride on Sharp 'N' Smart was superb. Any other NZ rider would be still waiting at the 200m.
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We are pleased to share the Terms of Reference and provide an update on the engagement process that will guide the development of a future-focused masterplan for New Zealand’s equine racing infrastructure. Project Stamina: Terms of Reference and Engagement Overview Dear Industry Participants, We are pleased to share the Terms of Reference and provide an update on the engagement process that will guide the development of a future-focused masterplan for New Zealand’s equine racing infrastructure. As previously communicated, Project Stamina aims to produce a unified masterplan for racing and training venues nationwide. It will provide a clear, long-term view of where and how the industry should invest across both the Harness and Thoroughbred codes. In doing so, it links this investment to reliable tracks, a consistent racing product, stronger wagering performance, and revenue generation to reinvest back into the sport. Project Stamina will create a sustainable and financially robust racing sector. We are committed to collaborative, sector-wide engagement, and the purpose of this update is to keep you informed about how this process will unfold. RCP have been appointed as independent consultants, and the Terms of Reference for the process are linked below, and can also be found on both the HRNZ and NZTR websites. PROJECT STAMINA TERMS OF REFERENCE Overview of the Engagement Process The engagement will take place in two key stages and follows a best-practice planning approach to ensure transparency, consistency, and equitable input across all levels of the industry: Discover, Compile and Analyse (through to Mid-February 2026): Structured engagement has commenced with representatives of HRNZ, NZTR and TAB NZ to confirm key issues and opportunities. Additional subject matter experts may be engaged if specific knowledge gaps are identified. Insights from this stage will help shape masterplan options. Evaluate and Report (by late May 2026): Feedback will be sought from across the NZ Racing Industry, including Racing Clubs and Recognised Industry Organisations, through online surveys, workshops, and meetings (online or in-person). The focus will be on gathering views about the benefits of a preferred masterplan option and the actions required to achieve it. Industry feedback received will be used to approve the masterplan by the governing bodies of the two racing codes. Regular updates will be provided at every stage to ensure transparency and reinforce stakeholder confidence that their input is being thoughtfully considered. Project Stamina intends to embrace change, but not for change’s sake. With ageing infrastructure, we need to strategically invest in the venues which provide the best opportunity to future-proof the racing industry for long-term sustainable success. This process begins with complete transparency - no decisions have been made, and industry input will play a central role in shaping the preferred approach. Next Steps This process is guided by a commitment to transparency and collaboration. Keeping you informed is a key part of our approach, and regular updates will be provided to ensure stakeholders remain abreast of considerations. Initial updates will be shared via email and existing channels (such as newsletters). More detailed information about the timing and opportunities for engagement will be available in the New Year, but current expectations are for a May 2026 release of the report. For now, we wanted to provide this overview so you know what to expect and how the process will progress. A monitored inbox (stamina@tabnz.org) has been set up for industry participants to be able to correspond with the process and we invite questions and feedback directly. Thank you for your ongoing commitment to New Zealand racing. Your participation is both crucial and encouraged. Together, we can build a vibrant and sustainable future for our industry. Corporate Communications New Zealand Thoroughbred Racing E: nztrcommunications@nztr.co.nz FacebookLinkedInWebsite New Zealand Thoroughbred Racing 18 Dick Street, Cambridge 3434 Email: office@nztr.co.nz Tel: 0800 946 637 NZTR.CO.NZ Unsubscribe
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Yes and that is disappointing. If I was Ballesty I would have come out hard and strong and told the hard cold facts and then presented a plan. No need to go through the process AGAIN. @Special Agent I know you are really close to the Levin Racing Club but you are selling the silver and bludging off Otaki to keep going, Is that what you really want?
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Racing NSW puts Australian Turf Club into administration The Australian Turf Club is set to have a Racing NSW-appointed administrator put in charge with the racing regulator stepping in after raising financial and governance concerns earlier this year.https://bitofayarn.com By Bren O'Brien ● Racing Industry ● December 15, 2025 ATC chair Tim Hale has led the fight against the club being put into administration. (Photo: Bronwen Healy – The Image is Everything) The Australian Turf Club has has an administrator appointed by the state’s racing regulator Racing NSW. The directors of the ATC were informed on Monday, having been handed a show-cause notice by Racing NSW in September. Racing NSW issued a statement confirming the ATC had been unsuccessful in fending off administration.https://bitofayarn.com “Racing NSW today announced the appointment of an Administrator to conduct the affairs of the Australian Turf Club (ATC),” it read. Advertisement “This decision follows an extensive and exhaustive Show Cause process, together with multiple formal joint meetings between the Boards of Racing NSW and the ATC. “These steps were undertaken to ensure the ATC was afforded every reasonable, and indeed ample, opportunity to address the serious concerns raised.” The statement said the ATC board was “repeatedly invited to provide detailed submissions, present its proposed strategy to improve the Club’s financial performance, its future solvency and respond comprehensively to concerns regarding corporate https://bitofayarn.comgovernance”. “Specifically, the ATC board was unable to demonstrate it could develop and implement a strategy to improve the commercial performance of the club, or rectify the serious financial issues. Further, the corporate governance concerns had not been appropriately addressed,” it said. Racing NSW has confirmed it has appointed a professional administrator who will report to a committee, which is being established. The identity of that administrator has not yet been announced. “This committee will be constituted of the necessary expertise and may include a mix appointed from current ATC board members, ATC members using a best practice skills matrix and other suitable persons,” it said. “This committee and administrator will replace the functions of the Board of the ATC. The day-to-day operations will continue to be managed by the ATC’s executive team and there will be no impact on the conduct of race meetings or events at ATC venues.” “This administration period will provide an opportunity for the ATC to improve its financial performance, address the serious financial issues and develop a robust and best practice long term strategy for the club, using the best possible skills and expertise.”https://bitofayarn.com Advertisement The initial show-cause notice in September came in the same week as the departure of chief executive Matt Galanos and the resignation of two of the club’s directors, Ben Bayot and Natalie Hewson. Subsequent to the inital Racing NSW notice in September, ATC chair Tim Hale issued a response, which claimed the show-cause related to perceived governance and financial matters extending back many years. “It does not impact our racing program, our operations, or the experiences we deliver for you as members,” he said.https://bitofayarn.com “The ATC does not accept several of the points raised by Racing NSW and will respond in detail in due course.” After the deadline for the response to the show cause notice was extended, the ATC directors, chair Hale, deputy Caroline Searcy, Annette English and David McGrath, as well as interim chief executive Steve McMahon, have met Racing NSW twice in the past three weeks to discuss the show cause notice. The most recent meeting was last Friday. Two NSW provincial and two country race clubs have previously been asked to show-cause as to why they shouldn’t have an administrator put in place to run the clubs due to financial and/or governance concerns.https://bitofayarn.com Wyong (2014), Hawkesbury (2021), Queanbeyan (2014) and Tamworth (2021) race clubs were all placed into administration by Racing NSW after being issued with show-cause notices over the past 12 years.
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The Two Best Horses in the World win at Hong Kong
Chief Stipe replied to Chief Stipe's topic in Galloping Chat
@curious you might be able to tell me but is the HKJC World Pool and advantage or a disadvantage financially to NZ when there are two $1 favourites? How is the top up to $1 accounted for? I'll admit I haven't got a clue but it struck me that you'd make more money out of a fixed odds market excluding Ka Ying Rising and Romantic Warrior than the Tote. I also thought that if you were going to launder money then those two races were the ones to do it on! -
Is it? If it is then that is a fundamental issue. Unless a Club has alternative revenue streams then it is impossible for them to maintain their core racing assets.
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Are rebates the only way he makes a profit?
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Wrong again. In the first instance it is the responsibility of Clubs to provide safe tracks and to maintain them. Obviously under the current structure NZTR can only advise. As for the Whip rules - NZTR sets those rules. The RIB enforce them and they should be doing more as the QA arm of the industry enforcing raceday protocols e.g. rating tracks properly and making sure horses gallop on them prior to the first race etc.
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I think you are missing the point. The Messara plan needed to be sold (still does) and sold hard. There wasn't enough hard reality talking particularly around the finances of Clubs.
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There's the conundrum. The assets aren't earning enough to maintain themselves now. We are rapidly heading towards a scenario of "do you want 25 racecourses or none"? All well and good sounding altruristic saying that "the assets should go to the community that built them" but that isn't the case. They are racing assets.
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Sharp 'N'Smart - you beauty! The 2025 Waikato Cup!
Chief Stipe replied to Chief Stipe's topic in Galloping Chat
Really they broke 1:23 for 1400m and went 1:09 flat for 1200m on a G4? By the time the Pakenham Cup ran it was listed as a Good 4. -
The plan was derailed by self-interested Clubs aided and abetted by a few loud mouth stirrers. Coupled with that and a lack of strong charismatic leadership it all turned to shyte. Now everyone is entrenched and the problems are not fixed and if anything are getting worse. Reinforcing that are half arsed renovations constrained by a lack of capital and expertise. Even those that had the capital didn't get it right and are now believing their own propaganda e.g. Ellerslie. The "iconic shape" justification is hilarious!
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Sharp 'N'Smart - you beauty! The 2025 Waikato Cup!
Chief Stipe replied to Chief Stipe's topic in Galloping Chat
I have no idea. But in my opinion that track didn't play fair or consistent and I suspect the upgrades were done on polling the Jockey's. -
In my opinion and experience supports that opinion the industry participants at all levels focus on the wrong things. For example isn't it more important to focus on the safety and consistency of tracks first rather than issues that are further down the line like counting whip strikes? When working in IT I used a process I learnt through an academic course that worked well. That process in brief was to identify the constraints (bottlenecks) in a system and elevate that constraint to the number one focus. The first step was to measure that part of the process accurately especially the variance from the mean - then assign all change resources to that constraint. The first step in the change proces was to remove the variance (make the process outputs consistent) and once that was done raise the mean. THEN only then once that constraint was eliminated focus on the elevate the next constraint. As you know for a very long time I've been advocating the focus of all the industry resources on fixing the tracks - making them more consistent, safer and fairer. If we did that you'd see an improvement in lots of other areas e.g. race riding tactics. You'd also see an improvement in revenue and a rise in the optimism of owners and trainers. The same should apply to rule enforcement. Focus on those rules that affect horse and Jockey safety. Whip strike counting and placement is a distraction that as you point out some major jurisdictions have less emphasis on.
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The Two Best Horses in the World win at Hong Kong
Chief Stipe replied to Chief Stipe's topic in Galloping Chat
Beating the Aussies at their own game! He will probably rate over 130 now. -
Sharp 'N'Smart - you beauty! The 2025 Waikato Cup!
Chief Stipe replied to Chief Stipe's topic in Galloping Chat
Mmmm something doesn't seem quite right with those sectionals nor any of them. They upgraded to a Good 4 after Race 1 from a Soft 5 and then after Race 7 to a Good 3. Yet they barely broke 12's in the Race 7 over 1200m running 1:09.76. -
The Two Best Horses in the World win at Hong Kong
Chief Stipe replied to Chief Stipe's topic in Galloping Chat
@Huey best horse in the world bred in NZ!! -
The Two Best Horses in the World win at Hong Kong
Chief Stipe replied to Chief Stipe's topic in Galloping Chat
Ka Ying Rising -
Romantic Warrior
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Who is Dane?