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No skin off my ass... I merely use a mates account to see what VERY AVERAGE b/s they care to mention BTW check out Racing Vvic Stipes account then compare the RIU's for punting info WOEFUL is praisiing them...some days a punter wouldn't know a meetings on if you followed RIU's
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No lie...go to the Racing Vic site and click on Stipe Reports ffs I gave you the case of Nigel Tiley...a very random test and one of his came within 0.1 of a positive to bi carb... ...a few months later he takes a horse to Queensland and gets fined 10k after pushing the boundaries yet again... What a seriously RIDICULOUS statement to ask "where's the evidence" when they seldom test even the basic stuff let alone out of competition Blood testing is a fact of life..the tests I used to carry out on my morning rounds were easily accepted... Get some facts into ya
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Too true...especially now he has ZERO public profile after Earleys weekly radio 'interviews' are gonnnne Even though Earily was constantly pissing in his pocket with patsy questions... There's NO ACCOUNTABILITY now... I said as much on twitter to them and guess what they replied? They BLOCKED me! F them
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Notwithstanding all of that....and a load of guessing I might add.. Horace has EVERY right to expect at least some diligence around general DRUG TESTING by the hopeless RIU Even very average meetings in Australia have @30 random pre race tests... ...so after the announcemrnt of the TA positive.... Wouldnt you think the HOPELESS RIU might at least conduct pre race testing not to mention out of competition testing before the Kraka Million night?? Not one test taken pre race..and wtf knows about out of competition testing EVER! Yet @ 70% of the MINIMAL pre race tests are conducted on Sth Is. smalls WTF is that about....even Pitty can't work that one out!
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Seriously, you have FAR too much time on your hands.... Just some FACTS rather than fake... The Darfield one was TWICE the depth and almost half the Peak Ground Accelleration...All adding up to the inevitable STRONGER overall main quake... The POINT that you don't get is the fact the public go to SOME sporting events entering at their own risk... In this case unsuspecting members of the public going about their business were under threat from a runaway panicked horse...after somersaulting ONE chest high rail Thats unacceptable in ANYONES lingo
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Well done you took Year 7 Maths.... Methinks you know p very well because you appear to be on it... Not requiring clubs to have an extra boundary fence other than a running rail is Balmy Army...and your Its Band Conductor
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Wtf? The second quake was almost in the City centre...the other was at Darfield ffs... According to you the founding Racing fathers made a massive expensive mistake building an extra perimeter fence other than an outside racing rail... ...pffffft Just 2 months ago yet another horse failed to take the Te Aroha bend out of the straight and went clean over the outside rail.... ...thankfully TA had an extra fence to capture an out of control horse You seem to be under the impression that NP had an extra fence besides the racing rail.... ....tell moi that isn't true....
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It's not about what he said in private.... He taped it to be the big shot in front of his owners who then plastered it on social media... ...bringing racing into disrepute Imagine if ALL post race smack talk by big shot Trainers who haven't ridden a donkey let alone a fast Thoroughbred are plastered on social media... Itd be a shit show
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About cost? You could say the 1.5B spend far outweighs the expected benefit of saving lives in the unlikely event a cataclysmic quake wipes Wellington out...while people are working... The calculation by NZTA of a life is $4.7M.... I'm sure Any Horseman would agree that a chest high fence around a racing perimeter being the only protection for the general public isn't acceptable... ...it's happened twice now within a number of months...
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It's offensive language in anyone's book...l Heef better have notified Stipes if there's was a change of tactics as well.... Something our weak Stipes should bring in here too
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What's the law got to do with bringing Racing into disrepute? Stipes can do whatever they like if they think offensive language has been published... ...and Heefo is the instigator...get a grip!
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Again...you miss the point Its the publication of a private convo between 2 parties... Only Heefo decided to tape it so he looks the BIG guy to his owners.... Heefs problem....
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Actually the dickhead owner who posted it on social media should have been charged as well.... Maybe Heathcote was trying to be the BIGSHOT to show his owners he was THE man and not to be messed with? Whatever, it's bringing racing into disrepute airing this smack talk... 2+ 3 should give Heathcote the sex in travel option... But why would you want the Supreme Court of JCA ruling on such a cut n dry case.... ...at a cost of millions? When Heathcote owners are to blame?
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Yea, you put up a SAFE fence.... A chest high horse fence between an unaware vulnerable public going about their non horse business is totes UNACCEPTABLE Cost v human life doesn't come into it when assessing H&S You could arrange front door signage for each Earthquake prone building in Wellington...ENTER AT YOUR OWN RISK... ...or you could spend 1.5B proofing them to save human lives...which they're doing You could put a sign up outside NP Race Course... 'Unsafe chest high fence between you and a panicked horse' Or the Club could do the right thing and erect a suitably safe fence The problem with NP course is they're reluctant because it's a public park...
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No I get the 'point' extremely well... Your incredibly stupid'idea' that breakers/pre Trainers are responsible for horses needing a hood is BATSHIT CRAZY Were talking ACTUAL 100% genuine HORSEMEN here v you A NON Horseman at his pc wearing a soiled singlet and y fronts... talking horse shit
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Oh Lordy... And they live amongst us...
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Did I see you just opine the AW track caused the Death of a Jockey? If H & S find out there's a chest high fence between a panicked horse and a vulnerable public watch the f out if someone gets killed... Its like Earthquake proofing Wellington buildings...Humans have the ABSOLUTE right to be protected from incompetently built buildings et el
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Pffffft.." This is how the Oz system works.... Stipe Algar and COC Wenn hear Hols inform an official to sex and travel... Auto fine for 'bringing racing into disrepute' Now...a High Court type 'inquiry' with a Girl Friday getting paid big bucks to type a whole load of b/s out to 'Supreme Court' expense.. ...which we can't afford Good old Morts 'free speech' cost him and the Industry big bucks.... Now he's broke...like his mate
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So this is what you get when the Racing Industry has a Rolls Royce type JCA... Just like a High Court...only no Black Cloths on the noggin when dishing out Justice... ...ffs, just find them GUILTY az and move on with a simple fine...rather than a MASSIVE overkill investigation containing 'natural justice and free speech' No such thing as free speech when dealing with Stipes... Ms Wynyard was present at the hearing. She indicated on the Information that she admitted the breach and confirmed her admission to the Committee. However, when asked by the Committee Chair if she understood the nature of the charge, she advised that although she admits the breach, she disputes the words that were allegedly directed at the Stipendiary Steward. On that basis the Committee accepted Ms Wynyard’s guilty plea but sought formal proof from two witnesses who Stewards advised would prove the particulars of the charge. Accordingly, evidence was heard from the Clerk of the Course Mr T Wenn and Stipendiary Steward Ms V Algar. Evidence of Mr Wenn Mr Wenn advised the Committee that whilst in his role as Clerk of the Course he was in the area where horses were being marshalled to bring them in to the parade ring then on to the birdcage. He said that he overheard Stipendiary Steward Ms Algar instructing Ms Wynyard to “get this horse into the birdcage”. He said that as a result Hollie (Ms Wynyard) got fired up and said, “you can go and get F…ked”. Mr Wenn said that in response Ms Algar questioned Ms Wynyard asking did you just tell me “to go and get f…ked”. Mr Wenn reiterated that, that Ms Wynyard was fired up. In response to a question from the Committee Mr Wenn confirmed the words used by Ms Wynyard. Under cross examination from Ms Wynyard, she put it to Mr Wenn that the words she used were “F off”.She further stated that she directed worse words at Ms Algar; namely that “she was a little Hitler”. In reply Mr Wenn confirmed his earlier evidence in terms of what he believed was said. Evidence of Ms Algar Trainee Stipendiary Steward Ms Algar advised that part of her race day duties included checking horse in the parade ring and ensuring they moved into the birdcage. She said that in this regard she had just finished the plate inspection of horses in the parade and Ms Wynyard, was the last the bring her horse (KEY) into the ring. Ms Algar said she told Ms Wynyard to take her horse through into the birdcage. Ms Wynyard told her she was waiting for her jockey and would not go through into the birdcage. In doing so, it was Ms Algar’s evidence that Ms Wynyard directed the following comments at her; “F…. you and you are like Hitler”. Evidence of Ms Wynyard Ms Wynyard disputed the actual words used. She said that she did not recall using the words “F…. you”, but rather she said that her actual words were “F…. off …..you are a little Hitler”. Ms Wynyard further stated that she believed an arrangement had been made with Stewards (by her co-trainer Mr Benner) concerning her horse. She said that she has previously had a ‘run in’ with Ms Algar, who she said is very vigilant and does not understand that it is not always “clear cut with horses”. Ms Wynyard concluded her evidence by stating that never used the words “F…k you” but conceded that she said “F…. Off”. Decision: As Ms Wynyard admitted the charge it was deemed to be proved. Additionally, the Committee is satisfied after hearing evidence from Mr Wenn, Ms Algar and Ms Wynyard that the language used, in the circumstances, does constitute misconduct. Mr Wenn is independent, and he was quite clear about what he heard and the fact that Ms Wynyard in his words was “fired up”. Ms Wynyard is a Licensed Trainer and as such is bound by the Rules of Racing. Furthermore, it is a play on words whether she said F you or F off, as we believe that the language which was directed at Ms Algar is well beyond what an Official should reasonably be expected to bear and therefore amounts to misconduct. Submission For Penalty: Mr Oatham submitted that contrary to Ms Wynyard’s evidence no special arrangements had been made for her horse in relation to the parade ring. He said that the only accommodation made by Stewards was for KEY to wear a blindfold when being placed into the barrier stalls. He said that Ms Algar’s actions were quite reasonable, and she was only doing her job. He said that in terms of the charge it does not matter what the exact words used were, whether they be F you or get F’ed. Mr Oatham submitted that Ms Wynyard had breached the Misconduct Rule once previously, namely last June 2020 in relation to a trackwork incident. The matter was dealt with by way of NRI and Ms Wynyard was fined $1000 and ordered to participate in anger management counselling. Mr Wynyard submitted that she completed the course but has yet to pay the fine (as she has not received an account). She said that it was a big race day, with high pressure. She said her filly had previously experienced problems at the barrier, and everything she said to Ms Algar was in the heat of the moment. She said she was now sorry about the way she spoke to Ms Algar. Reasons For Penalty: The JCA Penalty Guide does not specify a starting point for misconduct as a breach of this nature can cover a multitude of situations and penalties. Specific facts as well as factors concerning culpability and the personal circumstances of the Respondent need to be considered. The Committee is appreciative of the fact that the words used by Ms Wynyard must be considered in light of the time, place, and context. Whilst the use of an occasional or one-off expletive may be acceptable in some settings and, in the heat of the moment; it can never be acceptable for a License Holder to direct such language at an Official (i.e., Stipendiary Steward) in the execution of their duty, in response to a directive, in a very public setting. Further, we understand that the language was overheard by at least two other persons who were in the vicinity. There may well have been others who overheard the language, and, in our view, this does not reflect well on both Ms Wynyard and on such a big occasion, notably Waikato RC’s premier meeting for the year. There are several precedent cases of misconduct, but very few where language or behaviour has been directed at a Stipendiary Steward in the execution of their duty. We have taken cognisance of two most recent (Harness Racing) cases where abuse has been directed at Stewards; namely: RIU v Habraken (2020) – Misconducted himself by repeated use of obscene language directed at a Stipendiary Steward. Fined $1250. RIU v B Orange (2020) – Misconducted himself by repeatedly telling RIU staff to f… off when lawfully investigating a racing matter. Total fine imposed of $1000. A distinguishing and aggravating factor when comparing this case to the above cases is that this is Ms Wynyard’s second breach of the Rule within the past 12 months. On this and the previous occasion she has directed unnecessary, inappropriate, and unacceptable language at Industry participants. Ms Wynyard advised the Committee that following the previous breach she has sought professional help. We encourage her to continue with this programme. In the final analysis the penalty we impose must be proportionate and balanced to denounce misconduct of this nature and act as a deterrent. Therefore, we determine that a fine of $1200 is appropriate in the circumstances of this case. ..
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Here's the Rotorua incident Rotorua horse makes run for it down main street 27 Nov, 2019 07:02 PM2 minutes to read A horse and rider chasing after the runaway horse on Fenton St. Photo / Supplied Rotorua Daily Post A runaway racehorse caused a stir this afternoon after it was spotted hoofing it down Fenton St without a rider, closely followed by a horse and jockey chasing it. Thomas Sears was just minding his business standing outside the bank on Fenton St, when he heard something unusual. "I heard a galloping noise, so I turned around and had a look and I saw this completely jet-black horse come flying down the road in the oncoming lane towards traffic," Sears said. "In the other lane was a cop car with his lights on coming after him." ADVERTISEMENT Sears went back to getting money out of the ATM when he heard a second galloping noise behind him. "I looked up and there was a second horse, with a rider on it, chasing after the first one." The horse was running north from the Fenton St and Hinemoa St intersection, towards the Government Gardens, he said. Sears said he believed that due to the second rider chasing after it, the runaway horse must have come from the racecourse not too far away. Races were being held at the racecourse this evening. A police spokeswoman confirmed police had been called to reports of a horse on the loose at 3.26pm. "Animal control was advised and the horse was located and the horse is now safe."
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Poor Buckers..... Some of these big boys think they're invincible and would do ANYTHING to keep it that way.... This is connected... Millionaire Ultra Tune founder Sean Buckley has launched Supreme Court action to block the release of an audio recording that captured him threatening to kill a former business associate and allegedly assaulting his then partner. The sound of Mr Buckley allegedly hitting and choking Jennifer Cole can be heard on the graphic 20-minute recording, in which he accuses her of interfering in a dispute that he says could expose his involvement in potential criminal activity. A lawyer for Mr Buckley declined to comment about the contents of the tape, other than to say it had been tampered with and his client’s comments had been taken out of context. The audio file below contains edited excerpts of the recording. And a warning, some readers may find the contents distressing.The lawsuit, filed by Mr Buckley in the Supreme Court of Victoria on Tuesday, seeks an order banning Ms Cole and a former employee Anthony Swords from distributing the tape and forcing them to locate and destroy any copies, including the original. The documents filed by Mr Buckley do not describe the content of the recording but allege it was made illegally and forms part of an attempted conspiracy to extort him and damage his company’s reputation. Ultra Tune founder Sean Buckley has sought to prevent the distribution of the recording. The recording, which was made in a suite at Melbourne’s Crown Towers, contains Mr Buckley describing to Ms Cole a plan to hire a hitman to kill former business associate Jimmy “Vegas” Seoud before he could implicate him in criminal activity. There is no further evidence that Mr Buckley implemented the plan. Mr Buckley and Ms Cole had been involved since 2017 and the recording was made shortly before their relationship ended. Mr Seoud – who is widely known as Jimmy Vegas – was a director and licensee of Surfers Paradise strip club Toybox Gentlemen’s Club owned by Mr Buckley, until they fell out dramatically in 2019 and their more than decade-long friendship also ended. Mr Seoud lost an unfair dismissal claim against Mr Buckley. The Age and The Sydney Morning Herald have chosen to publish excerpts from the recording because of the public interest in revealing allegations of domestic violence, death threats and potential involvement in criminal activity by a well-known and influential business figure. “I’m now quite distressed about what’s going to be revealed. Jen, I could go to prison. Proceeds of crime – I’ll lose everything,” Mr Buckley can be heard saying in the recording. “This is so f---ing critical I’ll probably have to hire someone to kill him ... OK, I’ve already made those programs to do it, just in case ... I’m not going to go spend the rest of my life in prison I’d rather f---ing shoot him and kill him.” Mr Buckley does not discuss the specifics of the alleged conduct he is concerned about.
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Trainer Jamie Richards was pleased with the hit out for the reigning New Zealand Horse of the Year Melody Belle, given she was racing without blinkers and was having just her second public appearance since returning from her Melbourne Spring campaign. She trialled well. They went a decent clip and she was out of her comfort zone without the hood on,” Richards said. Seriously...let this b/s go... "I don't believe" you know much about this topic when you suggest they're badly trained/broken in... Jammie and Muzza Baker are MASSIVE users of Blinkers.... Are you saying their breakers are useless or their training? Pffffft
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Yep...I think this has been done to dearth.... But it goes like this..the team trialled the shades and found that it made the neddy faster... Concentration does wonderful things for speedier point a to point b transitions.... ...no wandering around smelling da roses...