Shab

Should've stayed in behind Captain Hammerhead and would've won. Lot of loot lost.

Plenty of disgraceful behaviour in gallops and harness. What do all these well paid fellas at the RIB do all day 'The Racing Integrity Board promotes and ensures compliance with high standards of integrity, animal welfare and professionalism by people in the racing industry.' Yeah right, Why don't you get up these guys Winnie? Throw your legislation in the bin, get rid of these do nothings, replace them with some competent types and lets keep the dogs racing.

Don't know if any of these outfits are interested in increasing turnover. Must be all about margin. Just looked at Lightning odds and Entain have Switzerland 2.60. Australian TAB an even more ridiculous 2.25.

What kind of flow on? All going well but how would their individual success benefit racing back in NZ?

I’ve got a TAB account. Stopped using it regularly after I received an email going on about how I was taking advantage of the promotions that weren’t actually there for punters to profit from. If I carried on I would be ineligible for anymore promotions. No big deal. It was quite time consuming as I was betting then laying the favourite on Betfair so you had to be glued to the computer before every race trying to minimise the cost of matching the bet. Then I was backing horses with the bonus bets at around $10 and again laying them on Betfair. It was time consuming and mistakes could be costly. I would however recommend all punters give it a go. You learn a lot from watching what happens on Betfair. Away from the promotions I found you can’t win just betting on overs. They’re onto you fairly quickly. I would put a bet through and it would come back saying you can’t have that amount but you can have this lower amount. No point carrying on. You can get other people to open accounts for you to use but it gets messy. You need to get another phone to hide your identity and then there’s getting the money out. Most people even family members don’t want to get involved. They think gambling is evil and you’re doing something bad and they don’t want to be a part of it. Too much work for a few thousand dollars before they shut you down. I had a Queensland TAB/Ubet account. If I withdrew any funds they would send me a cheque. I would drive around a number of banks but more often than not they would refuse to let me deposit the cheques into my account. You were treated like a cross between a gambling addict and an international money launderer. Eventually I worked out that you could get the cheques through easily by depositing them into your account at an ATM. Things changed when Ubet closed down and the overs I was getting were gone just like that. Nowadays I just use Betfair and occasionally use the NZ TAB account to score a bit of petrol money. I like laying runners when they get near to Winx odds as its unlikely they’re going to be a Winx. Cleaned up on Belle Detelle at Mornington today. I’m sure the QR code thing may have happened but things have changed since then. Everybody got the same promotional offers back then but now they target those who they can get more from with all kinds of generous offers. I have mates who just punt and lose for fun and they get promotional offers I’m never going to get. I had a look for the deposit match and I’ve got 10%. Wont bother as I don’t want to be gubbed. Apparently they’re really quick at putting the squeeze on you these days so I’ll just stay under the radar and pick up a few hundred here and there. Winning on the punt isn’t hard its just time consuming. You’re going to struggle with the TAB’s 120% plus closing markets unless you can be extremely patient, are extremely brilliant or have access to really good information. You can make more money doing other things with the same amount of effort. It’s just not as much fun.

So Entain no longer restrict winning punters but shower them with 50% deposit match and bonus back on the first four races offers instead. Pull the other one its got bells.

You have to be going terrible to be getting these offers. Start writing down all your bets. Compare the price you got to SP. You have to beat SP by a margin if you want to be profitable. Keep a journal. Write down things you noticed during your day of punting that might be useful in the future. Don't rely on your memory unless you are very special. If you did something really clever write it down. If you did something really stupid write it down and underline it. Review your journal regularly. Try and find an edge. Don't make studying form your sole focus. Focus on getting the best possible price you can and be patient.

Sitting here reading your post and I hear Craig Sant talking about So Naive running in Race 2 at Darwin dogs. Couldn't help myself. Bit short but a win is a win.

But the no hassle tax rate at the TAB is too high plus Betfair give rewards to winners as well as losers. It's hard to avoid hassles these days. No outfit wants you ringing them and try to make it difficult for you to find their number. if you do manage to get them on the phone you often end up talking to someone in a land far far away. It can be hard to understand what their saying and or they can't understand what you're saying. Often they don't know the answer to your question. This forum is great. You ask the question and someone gives you an answer in minutes.

I think their app is great. I like the white text on black background. Apparently it gives some eye strain. I find it really difficult to see stuff on the TAB site so no good to me. Wouldn’t worry them, I think they don’t want any over 30’s as customers anyways.

Anyone know the trick to depositing to a Betfair account nowadays? They don't take credit card deposits and other methods comes up - no available payment options.

New Zealand harness is shown on Sky Racing 2. You can research the coverage for yourself. There a number of sites where you can watch for free like this one https://www.3wehorse.com/live-streaming/

Sky Racing is part of Tabcorp. Seen heaps of mainstream advertising on it. Coca-Cola, McDonalds, Harvey Norman, Audi, Toyota and heaps of others. Maybe the TAB need to give their advertising salesperson a hurry up or if they haven't got one, they could reassign one of their many product managers to the role. First call they could make would be Gerry Harvey. Should be an easy sell.

A punter who isn't able to work that out shouldn't be punting in the first place.

Withdraw your money, receive it in your bank account, transfer it to your credit card. The things punters find to complain about are unbelievable sometimes.

You can make withdrawals to a bank account online now.

Strange that they closed your account. I couldn't complete a withdrawal online. Emailed them and they replied saying they were working on fixing the issue but could do a manual withdrawal for me in the meantime. I left it a few weeks went but when I tried to withdraw online again the issue hadn't been fixed so I emailed them again. They replied saying they were still working on it. I emailed them a copy of a bank statement and googled for a Swift code and let them know what it was. Money turned up in the account a few days later. Maybe try emailing them if you want to use the account again. Try to be polite as possible. They're Australians and can be very difficult to deal with especially on the phone and you can get their back up very easily. It's the best place to bet and for some of us the only place to bet.