Warsaw sold to Hong Kong for $1.5m

[Chief Stipe]

I really liked this horse - Warsaw.  His last win at Ruakaka was Verry Eleegant in style.  Apparently sold for $1.5m to Hong Kong.

 

 

[holy ravioli]

Nice win.Another Rich Hill stallion to the fore.

[Chief Stipe]

Is Warsaw eligible for the Hong Kong Derby?

Stakes HK$20M/NZD$4.25M

[Bill]

21 hours ago, Chief Stipe said:

Is Warsaw eligible for the Hong Kong Derby?

Stakes HK$20M/NZD$4.25M

If he is a 4YO then yes he is

[Chief Stipe]

2 hours ago, Bill said:

If he is a 4YO then yes he is

He is by NZ time but what system does Hong Kong use?  Sorry if that is a dumb question.

[Bill]

3 hours ago, Chief Stipe said:

He is by NZ time but what system does Hong Kong use?  Sorry if that is a dumb question.

Same as anywhere. 1August and 1January

[Chief Stipe]

11 minutes ago, Bill said:

Same as anywhere. 1August and 1January

Horses don't have two birthdays in a year.  So Warsaw is 4 by NZ time I.e. from 1 August.

Is he still 3 by Northern Hemisphere time or is he 4 and rising 5 on 1 January?

[Bill]

17 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said:

Horses don't have two birthdays in a year.  So Warsaw is 4 by NZ time I.e. from 1 August.

Is he still 3 by Northern Hemisphere time or is he 4 and rising 5 on 1 January?

If he turned 4 on August 1 and was bred in the southern hemisphere he is eligible.

if he was northern hemisphere bred he would be 3 and would therefore turn 4 on Jan 1.

he is 4 so is eligible for the hk derby.

Edited October 2, 2023 by Bill

[Chief Stipe]

1 minute ago, Bill said:

If he turned 4 on August 1 and was bred in the southern hemisphere he is eligible.

if he was northern hemisphere bred he would be 3 and would therefore turn 4 on Jan 1.

he is 4 so is eligible for the hk derby. No notification he has been exported to hk from what I have seen

Thanks for that.  He hasn't raced since his win at Ruakaka.

Would you expect NZTR to be up to date?

[Bill]

Let’s see if he measures up. Rocket Spade hasn’t exactly been a success.

[Chief Stipe]

46 minutes ago, Bill said:

Let’s see if he measures up. Rocket Spade hasn’t exactly been a success.

Sharp 'N' Smart hasn't come back that well either.  However I think Warsaw has a lot more upside.

[holy ravioli]

42 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said:

Sharp 'N' Smart hasn't come back that well either.  However I think Warsaw has a lot more upside.

That's a hell of a lot of upside given S@S has won 3 grp 1's and a couple of million!😀

[Chief Stipe]

40 minutes ago, holy ravioli said:

That's a hell of a lot of upside given S@S has won 3 grp 1's and a couple of million!😀

Warsaw has a lot of upside relative to what he has done so far.

@holy ravioli the

 

 

 

[holy ravioli]

10 hours ago, Chief Stipe said:

Warsaw has a lot of upside relative to what he has done so far.

@holy ravioli the

 

 

 

You compared him directly to Smart 'n' Sharp.

As I said facts....matter.

Another false allegation.No trolling,just pointing out...FACTS.😉

[Chief Stipe]

3 hours ago, holy ravioli said:

You compared him directly to Smart 'n' Sharp.

As I said facts....matter.

Another false allegation.No trolling,just pointing out...FACTS.😉

You're getting very tedious @holy ravioli

Let's explain it simply for you.

@Bill introduced Rocket Spade into the discussion.  A past winner of the NZ Derby who was sold for good money to Hong Kong but who hasn't really gone on with it.

I then referred to Sharp 'N' Smart in relation to Rocket Spade.  He ran a shocker last Saturday.  Perhaps Rogie went too far with him as a 3yr old as Rogie is prone to do and the horse hasn't come back this year as a 4yr old.  Or it's a simple case of not handling the track at Hastings.  Or a health reason.

My reference to the upside of Warsaw was in relation to Warsaw.  In my opinion he is a talented horse, races kindly and cleanly, had some really nice but unlucky runs as a three old, lightly raced and won his last race at Ruakaka the way only good horses do.

It seems I'm not the only racing follower who thinks Warsaw has a lot of upside.  If the pub rumours are correct and he was bought for $1.5m then some good judges agree.  Note I said he was a nice horse before he was sold.  His run in the Derby wasn't that bad.

It was also interesting that Opie Bosson rode him at Ruakaka.  No doubt he provided feedback to some interested potential buyers.

He may not adapt to Hong Kong but in my opinion, he is the ideal type for the Hong Kong Derby.  He is certainly bred to get 2000m or more.

[holy ravioli]

Understood.👍

[Zimmermann Wolfgang]

is it true that Warsaw was sold for NZ 1.5 million?

If so, can we have the proof, please

 

[Bill]

See this horse had a trial according to a post I saw online in Honkers this morning…so decided to go have a look…looked a little average

[Chief Stipe]

https://racing.hkjc.com/racing/video/play.asp?type=brts&date=20240109&rc=st&no=01&lang=eng&isMobile=true&newPlayer=true

[Bill]

1 hour ago, Chief Stipe said:

https://racing.hkjc.com/racing/video/play.asp?type=brts&date=20240109&rc=st&no=01&lang=eng&isMobile=true&newPlayer=true

Forgot to mentioned his new owners changed his name - Huge Wave 😂

[Chief Stipe]

39 minutes ago, Bill said:

Forgot to mentioned his new owners changed his name - Huge Wave 😂

First trial.  Early days.

[Bill]

On 1/9/2024 at 4:36 PM, Chief Stipe said:

First trial.  Early days.

Ran an terrible first race…looks like it’s been well sold.

[Chief Stipe]

11 hours ago, Bill said:

Ran an terrible first race…looks like it’s been well sold.

Was 3 wide the trip without cover.  I don't like the hood/blinkers on him either.  Prepared to give him a couple more races.

[Bill]

On 2/13/2024 at 5:13 AM, Chief Stipe said:

Was 3 wide the trip without cover.  I don't like the hood/blinkers on him either.  Prepared to give him a couple more races.

Hope some of you got on at 39-1.

Trainer won two races but he has had a shocking season.

On another note, can we please get Tom Woods back to call races here…his group one call was outstanding. Shame on those that pushed him down here!

[Chief Stipe]

9 hours ago, Bill said:

Hope some of you got on at 39-1.

Trainer won two races but he has had a shocking season.

On another note, can we please get Tom Woods back to call races here…his group one call was outstanding. Shame on those that pushed him down here!

Nice win.  I was starting to think he may not acclimatise to the Hong Kong setup.

I see the trainer scored in the first at 25-1.  

$165-1 winner on the card!