Chief Stipe Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 I really liked this horse - Warsaw. His last win at Ruakaka was Verry Eleegant in style. Apparently sold for $1.5m to Hong Kong. M2_WHAN_R07_050823.mp4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holy ravioli Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 Nice win.Another Rich Hill stallion to the fore. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted October 1, 2023 Author Share Posted October 1, 2023 Is Warsaw eligible for the Hong Kong Derby? Stakes HK$20M/NZD$4.25M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 21 hours ago, Chief Stipe said: Is Warsaw eligible for the Hong Kong Derby? Stakes HK$20M/NZD$4.25M If he is a 4YO then yes he is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted October 2, 2023 Author Share Posted October 2, 2023 2 hours ago, Bill said: If he is a 4YO then yes he is He is by NZ time but what system does Hong Kong use? Sorry if that is a dumb question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 3 hours ago, Chief Stipe said: He is by NZ time but what system does Hong Kong use? Sorry if that is a dumb question. Same as anywhere. 1August and 1January Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted October 2, 2023 Author Share Posted October 2, 2023 11 minutes ago, Bill said: Same as anywhere. 1August and 1January Horses don't have two birthdays in a year. So Warsaw is 4 by NZ time I.e. from 1 August. Is he still 3 by Northern Hemisphere time or is he 4 and rising 5 on 1 January? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: Horses don't have two birthdays in a year. So Warsaw is 4 by NZ time I.e. from 1 August. Is he still 3 by Northern Hemisphere time or is he 4 and rising 5 on 1 January? If he turned 4 on August 1 and was bred in the southern hemisphere he is eligible. if he was northern hemisphere bred he would be 3 and would therefore turn 4 on Jan 1. he is 4 so is eligible for the hk derby. Edited October 2, 2023 by Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted October 2, 2023 Author Share Posted October 2, 2023 1 minute ago, Bill said: If he turned 4 on August 1 and was bred in the southern hemisphere he is eligible. if he was northern hemisphere bred he would be 3 and would therefore turn 4 on Jan 1. he is 4 so is eligible for the hk derby. No notification he has been exported to hk from what I have seen Thanks for that. He hasn't raced since his win at Ruakaka. Would you expect NZTR to be up to date? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 Let’s see if he measures up. Rocket Spade hasn’t exactly been a success. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted October 2, 2023 Author Share Posted October 2, 2023 46 minutes ago, Bill said: Let’s see if he measures up. Rocket Spade hasn’t exactly been a success. Sharp 'N' Smart hasn't come back that well either. However I think Warsaw has a lot more upside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holy ravioli Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 42 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: Sharp 'N' Smart hasn't come back that well either. However I think Warsaw has a lot more upside. That's a hell of a lot of upside given S@S has won 3 grp 1's and a couple of million!😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted October 2, 2023 Author Share Posted October 2, 2023 40 minutes ago, holy ravioli said: That's a hell of a lot of upside given S@S has won 3 grp 1's and a couple of million!😀 Warsaw has a lot of upside relative to what he has done so far. @holy ravioli the Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holy ravioli Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 10 hours ago, Chief Stipe said: Warsaw has a lot of upside relative to what he has done so far. @holy ravioli the You compared him directly to Smart 'n' Sharp. As I said facts....matter. Another false allegation.No trolling,just pointing out...FACTS.😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted October 2, 2023 Author Share Posted October 2, 2023 3 hours ago, holy ravioli said: You compared him directly to Smart 'n' Sharp. As I said facts....matter. Another false allegation.No trolling,just pointing out...FACTS.😉 You're getting very tedious @holy ravioli Let's explain it simply for you. @Bill introduced Rocket Spade into the discussion. A past winner of the NZ Derby who was sold for good money to Hong Kong but who hasn't really gone on with it. I then referred to Sharp 'N' Smart in relation to Rocket Spade. He ran a shocker last Saturday. Perhaps Rogie went too far with him as a 3yr old as Rogie is prone to do and the horse hasn't come back this year as a 4yr old. Or it's a simple case of not handling the track at Hastings. Or a health reason. My reference to the upside of Warsaw was in relation to Warsaw. In my opinion he is a talented horse, races kindly and cleanly, had some really nice but unlucky runs as a three old, lightly raced and won his last race at Ruakaka the way only good horses do. It seems I'm not the only racing follower who thinks Warsaw has a lot of upside. If the pub rumours are correct and he was bought for $1.5m then some good judges agree. Note I said he was a nice horse before he was sold. His run in the Derby wasn't that bad. It was also interesting that Opie Bosson rode him at Ruakaka. No doubt he provided feedback to some interested potential buyers. He may not adapt to Hong Kong but in my opinion, he is the ideal type for the Hong Kong Derby. He is certainly bred to get 2000m or more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holy ravioli Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 Understood.👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zimmermann Wolfgang Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 is it true that Warsaw was sold for NZ 1.5 million? If so, can we have the proof, please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 See this horse had a trial according to a post I saw online in Honkers this morning…so decided to go have a look…looked a little average Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted January 9 Author Share Posted January 9 https://racing.hkjc.com/racing/video/play.asp?type=brts&date=20240109&rc=st&no=01&lang=eng&isMobile=true&newPlayer=true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 1 hour ago, Chief Stipe said: https://racing.hkjc.com/racing/video/play.asp?type=brts&date=20240109&rc=st&no=01&lang=eng&isMobile=true&newPlayer=true Forgot to mentioned his new owners changed his name - Huge Wave 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted January 9 Author Share Posted January 9 39 minutes ago, Bill said: Forgot to mentioned his new owners changed his name - Huge Wave 😂 First trial. Early days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 On 1/9/2024 at 4:36 PM, Chief Stipe said: First trial. Early days. Ran an terrible first race…looks like it’s been well sold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted February 12 Author Share Posted February 12 11 hours ago, Bill said: Ran an terrible first race…looks like it’s been well sold. Was 3 wide the trip without cover. I don't like the hood/blinkers on him either. Prepared to give him a couple more races. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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