Chief Stipe Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 Labour said it will deliver the "largest police service" in New Zealand history if re-elected to power at the election, with 300 additional police officers. It is part of the party's law and order policy, released today in Hamilton, and would cost $124 million over four years. It would be delivered through an additional 50 officers graduating in the first year (2024 / 2025), 75 in each of the second and third years, and 100 in the fourth year, for a cumulative total of 300 extra over the four-year period. It also included moves aimed at strengthening legal protections against stalking and harassment, a "crackdown" on gang leaders and "disruptive gang convoys". Labour promises crackdown on gangs, 300 extra frontline officers Play Video2:24 The victims of crime say it's too little, too late from the Labour Party, senior political reporter Benedict Collins reports. (Source: 1News) A review of the reparation system is also in the mix, aimed at speeding up payments for victims. Labour leader Chris Hipkins said while in government his party had delivered 1800 new police officers, the largest increase in policing numbers in New Zealand history. “This was a deliberate policy to support our frontline and increase community safety, following a decade of underinvestment by the previous National Government, which resulted in 30 police stations closing around the country." He said the party would build on that by delivering 300 more officers, if re-elected to power. Police officers graduate in 2023 (Source: 1News) It would mean there was one officer for every 470 New Zealanders he said - "the best ratio in modern history". The Police Act 1886 established New Zealand's first national, civil, police force, meaning it has existed formally for 137 years. The ratio was one to 541 officers in 2017, he said. “With 300 more cops we would increase the frontline by 2100 officers since we came into office. This is three times the amount National delivered over the same timeframe, when they were last in office. “We will also continue to crack down on gangs. Recently, we’ve seen communities disrupted and intimidated by dangerous gang convoys. This is intolerable. “Labour will introduce laws to punish this behaviour and develop new ways to target gangs leaders and break their international links." He said Labour had a "proud track record" of standing up for victims of violent crime, including establishing a new criminal offence for strangulation, tripling funding for the Victims Assistance Scheme and doubling funding for Victim Support. "Recently passed legislation also provides more rights and protections to victims of family and sexual violence. “We will go further for victims in relation to stalking and harassment by modernising our laws, to bring them in line with overseas jurisdictions. This will include exploring the possibility of creating an offence for stalking with a penalty of imprisonment." He said better support for victims will be provided following a review of the reparations system, which sees offenders ordered to pay victims for the harm caused. “Being the victim of a crime is painful enough without having to wait an extended period of time for the reparations you deserve. We will review this process to investigate how we can speed it up. “We will continue with our plans to free up Police time by enabling mental health experts to respond to mental health call outs, pass law to make ram raiding an offence, and make aiding and abetting youth crime and posting yourself committing crime online aggravating factors at sentencing." Police officers would receive better training also, he said, with the nationwide rollout of the Tactical Response Model. "We will continue to support the firearms registry, which is at risk under an ACT-National Government, who refuse to make keeping it a bottom-line." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walt Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 Impossible not to be cynical about this. It's clear Sausage Roll man knows now Labour has lost a ton of votes with their soft and fluffy be kind approach to crime, especially Gang Crime. We have a Labour Party perfect storm. First their desire to have 20% less inmates in NZ Prisons. This has obviously filtered through into the court system. Crimes are routinely downgraded so the offender qualifies for Home Detention. Then you have a Police Minister who is on record for stating "Maori have no place in Prison". No secret that the Mongrel Mob is pretty much all Maori. They have been huge benefactors of Labour's "be kind" to criminals. We could have another 1000 sworn Police Officers and it wouldn't change Labour's approach, in fact it would just highlight it even more. Add this to Three Waters, Hate Speech and Co-Governance and it's clear, Labour have gifted the election to National. I saw yesterday that two out of three Kiwi's now think Labour ins on the wrong track. I can't see how they have any hope of turning that around now. They are burnt toast. Labour have obviously done well in some areas but that good has been totally canceled out by the above. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holy ravioli Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 Alot of truth there....but the alternative is just...diabolical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 8 hours ago, Walt said: Impossible not to be cynical about this. It's clear Sausage Roll man knows now Labour has lost a ton of votes with their soft and fluffy be kind approach to crime, especially Gang Crime. We have a Labour Party perfect storm. First their desire to have 20% less inmates in NZ Prisons. This has obviously filtered through into the court system. Crimes are routinely downgraded so the offender qualifies for Home Detention. Then you have a Police Minister who is on record for stating "Maori have no place in Prison". No secret that the Mongrel Mob is pretty much all Maori. They have been huge benefactors of Labour's "be kind" to criminals. We could have another 1000 sworn Police Officers and it wouldn't change Labour's approach, in fact it would just highlight it even more. Add this to Three Waters, Hate Speech and Co-Governance and it's clear, Labour have gifted the election to National. I saw yesterday that two out of three Kiwi's now think Labour ins on the wrong track. I can't see how they have any hope of turning that around now. They are burnt toast. Labour have obviously done well in some areas but that good has been totally canceled out by the above. Walt, what areas have Labour done well in? Most incompetent useless bunch we could ever have had in Wellington unfortunately. Decimated the country and we are going to find out that we are in a worse position once the books are opened up! Someone with Robertsons lack of financial ability should never ever been in charge of finance! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walt Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 7 hours ago, Brodie said: Walt, what areas have Labour done well in? Most incompetent useless bunch we could ever have had in Wellington unfortunately. Decimated the country and we are going to find out that we are in a worse position once the books are opened up! Someone with Robertsons lack of financial ability should never ever been in charge of finance! I strongly believe Labour are mostly a bunch of divisive inept Muppets that are well out of their depth. It's difficult to nail down just what their biggest failures have been as there are so many. I'll have a go. Most concern ethnicity. 1) Dividing NZ. They've done that via their agenda of arranging support and health care etc based on ethnicity rather than need. That has encouraged a poor me and a sense of entitlement on one side and created disadvantage and resentment on the other side. Race issues sit on a balanced line. It's important Governments tread very carefully and slowly around them. Labour via their agenda have driven a D10 Bulldozer straight through the subject as quickly as possibly to fit their own political time frame. They have also further divided NZ via their Vaccine Mandates. 2) Virtue Signaling. Labour have led the way in this area. Choosing Labour candidates and Cabinet Ministers on ethnicity, gender and sexual orientation rather than merit has become their Modus Operandi. Poto Williams (Maori) was without doubt the worst ever Police Minister NZ has had to endure. She was never suitable for such an enormously important role. She stood there doing absolutely nothing while ram-raids got a foothold. Ardern spouted she had full confidence in Williams. Finally, well after the horse had bolted Ardern sacked her, stating Williams had "lost her focus". How is it possible for a Police Minister to lose focus during a crime wave? Truth is, Williams never had any focus from day one. Complete numpty. Nanaia Mahuta. (Maori) Asleep at the wheel at this hugely important time in the Pacific via her role as Foreign Affairs Minister. Architect of highly contentious and divisive Labour Party Policy that is now sinking them. Secured highly paid roles for her family members and did so without even looking elsewhere for far better and more competent people. Kiri Allan ( Maori and Lesbian) By far the worst and most unsuitable Minister of Justice NZ has ever been forced to endure. Carmel Sepuloni ( Samoan and Tongan descent) is now our Deputy Prime Minister despite being clueless. Everyone in NZ knew Motels were charging MSD far more for social housing clients than the public was being charged......except one person. Minister for MSD, Carmel Sepuloni. Grant Robertson. (Homosexual) Many believe he's easily the worst Minister of Finance NZ has ever had. etc etc 3) Being kind to Gangs / Maori offenders. Current Police Minister is on record as saying Prison is no place for Maori. Labour's agenda to hugely reduce Prison numbers has resulted in serious crimes being routinely downgraded so the offender qualifies for Home Detention. Judges are obviously complicit with this goal by gifting out pathetic sentences for serious offending. Discounts on sentences for Cultural reasons has now become the status quo. The Mongrel Mob especially are clearly very aware of this. NZ is now a less safe place for law abiding Kiwi's to reside. Meanwhile, the Mob is able to dominate the roads and intimidate others as some form of respect to a recently deceased fellow Mob member. The Police allow this to unfold and just shadow them instead. It's a farcical mess and Labour created it. 4) Our health system is in chaos. Andrew Little should not be in charge of a hamster, let alone our health system. It's now in a far worse state than when Labour took over. It does however now have a nice new Maori name. Labour are congratulating themselves over pay increases to nurses. I've seen this unfold up close. Andrew Little hated the Nurses Organization for having the audacity to seek better pay and condition for NZ Nurses and confront him over it. He took it very personally and as a result, a long drawn out impasse unfolded. Disillusionment and low morale with our nurses reached new levels. They left in droves. Andrew Little was an epic fail just like he was as Labour leader for almost three years and as the Pike River Minister. Only recently after Little was replaced and in the lead up to the election have nurses finally been partly successful with their pay claims but there are still huge numbers of community nurses with similar or better qualifications to Te Whatu Ora nurses being left out in the cold. I've seen nurses in tears and resigning just in the last few weeks. Meanwhile, Hipkins has absolutely and very deliberately misrepresented this huge issue by stating it only effects nurses at GP Clinics and they need to arrange their pay deal with the clinic that employs them. 5) We now have a PM that is suddenly unaware what a woman is and describes anything that isn't totally embracing the trans community as spreading hate. The implications of this are enormous. Hate Speech policy was always about controlling the narrative. Hipkins has again proven that. Despite what I've said above, Labour have got some things right along the way. Nothing to cancel out all of their fails but they do constitute positive results. 1) The lifting of the minimum wage. This was well overdue and something that has helped many Kiwis. 2) Boosted working for families. 3) Doubled sick leave from 5 to 10 days. 4) Introduced the ban on Foreign Buyers dining out on the NZ housing market and shutting out young kiwi families wanting to buy a home in their home country for their family. Most are still shut out due to high interest rates. 5) Banning the obscene trade of shipping live animals. I know a guy who worked this trade for six years and still has nightmares over what he witnessed on every voyage. .....despite what vested interest claimed about vet support on board and all care taken. He also witnessed what unfolded at the other end. Banning this trade was the right and ethical thing to do. The only regret is it taking so long. 6) Despite the waste and reported poor quality in places, the free school lunches has been successful. 7) Free GP visits for kids under 14. Eight) No prescription charges. 9) Set up Cancer Control Agency. 10) Built new and or upgraded classrooms. 11) ACC now covering birth injuries. 12) Providing period products for students. There are other success stories for them. That list should be ten times longer after six years in Government but it would be wrong to say Labour have not achieved anything in Government. I don't know what the answer is in terms of the best Government for NZ. One thing I'm certain of it's not the National Party. They already intend lifting the bans on Foreign House Buyers and the Shipping of Live Animals. There are good reasons why so many kiwis don't trust Luxon. I trust him about as far as I can throw an adult Elephant. They will use the state of the books to justify cuts and they will be the order of the day. The suffering and negative impacts as a result of those cuts will be hidden in clear view. National are about as inspiring as warm flat beer. They will be Government due to Labour's epic failures and their potential coalition partner (s) harvesting more votes than Labour's woeful options. Labour prioritized the bottom third and were often punitive toward the rest. National will prioritize the top third and often be punitive toward the rest. Regardless of what they are all saying, the middle third will continue sucking eggs as always. Our choices at the ballot box next month are the most stark I've ever witnessed. Voting out rather than voting in will be the staus quo. The only difference this election is the significance of "fear" motivating voting. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holy ravioli Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 Yet the Natz are sleepwalking to victory with no solutions,no substance about..anything! 'National is still refusing to say which parts of what it calls the back office bureaucracy of government it would cut to fund its tax cuts. ' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walt Posted September 11, 2023 Share Posted September 11, 2023 On 9/10/2023 at 8:04 PM, holy ravioli said: Yet the Natz are sleepwalking to victory with no solutions,no substance about..anything! 'National is still refusing to say which parts of what it calls the back office bureaucracy of government it would cut to fund its tax cuts. ' I think National could arrange a policy to drown kittens and puppies. Labour have been so woefully bad that policy for National could get through. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holy ravioli Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 National and Labour agree on one thing...if you are a hardworking Kiwi with aspirations to buy your own home...or even if you are destined to be a long term ..renter...fuck off to..Aussie.😒 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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