Yankiwi Posted March 1, 2024 Author Share Posted March 1, 2024 On 29/02/2024 at 11:25 PM, Chief Stipe said: So explain the reasons for the variance in the start of Q3 compare to YTD for Cambridge. Expand Unnormalized data used for pointless presentations has no variance applied. If that's what you want to do, have at it. Then you can add your deviation to it. In my world, one dog injured is one dog injured. Those not injured are not injured. In your world because so many dogs were not injured, even the ones that did get injured, didn't get injured. My variables are Column "A" to Column "I" which are manually entered. Formulas in Column "J" to "L" are constant. Q3 Cambridge. (0+0+2)/442 = .0045 = Major injuries = 0.5% (10+7)/442 = .0384 = Minor injuries = 3.8% Season to date Cambridge. (0+2+10)/2490 = .0048 = Major injuries = 0.5% (25+44)/2490 = .0277 = Minor injuries = 2.8% Column L = J###/C### = Total Injuries Think twice before taking your racing greyhound to Auckland. I hear Invercargill is nice this time of year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted March 1, 2024 Share Posted March 1, 2024 On 1/03/2024 at 4:11 AM, Yankiwi said: Unnormalized data used for pointless presentations has no variance applied. If that's what you want to do, have at it. Then you can add your deviation to it. In my world, one dog injured is one dog injured. Those not injured are not injured. In your world because so many dogs were not injured, even the ones that did get injured, didn't get injured. My variables are Column "A" to Column "I" which are manually entered. Formulas in Column "J" to "L" are constant. Q3 Cambridge. (0+0+2)/442 = .0045 = Major injuries = 0.5% (10+7)/442 = .0384 = Minor injuries = 3.8% Season to date Cambridge. (0+2+10)/2490 = .0048 = Major injuries = 0.5% (25+44)/2490 = .0277 = Minor injuries = 2.8% Column L = J###/C### = Total Injuries Think twice before taking your racing greyhound to Auckland. I hear Invercargill is nice this time of year. Expand So you can't explain the difference Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankiwi Posted March 1, 2024 Author Share Posted March 1, 2024 On 29/02/2024 at 11:25 PM, Chief Stipe said: So explain the reasons for the variance in the start of Q3 compare to YTD for Cambridge. Expand I have answered your question. I do not apply a variance. I've explained the variables. Date - track - starters - 1/10 - 11/21 - 22/42 - 43/90 - death. I have shown you the basic math equations to calculate the injury percentages. If you're not happy with that, nothing I will ever say will make you happy. It's what I'm doing & has proven effective (as it is in line with GRNZ's Q1 data they have released). I've made Q2 data available as it was occurring, something everyone would have had to wait until mid/end of March to get from GRNZ. I'm making Q3 data available as it is occurring, something everyone would have had to wait until mid/end of June to get from GRNZ. If you don't like that & you want to minimize the impact the numbers of dogs that actually get hurt without improving welfare or safety, your target should be GRNZ's database administrator, not me. I'm not reporting to the Govt. I am bringing attention (page hits) to your forum, something I thought you might actually appreciate. Without me, your forum would be on par with your old hang-outs greyhound forum. You're welcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankiwi Posted April 30, 2024 Author Share Posted April 30, 2024 Another pointless presentation. 3rd quarter injury data correlation, posted on BOAY before GRNZ have even made public their 2nd quarter data. Current season to date (9 months). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankiwi Posted July 30, 2024 Author Share Posted July 30, 2024 (edited) 2023/2024 Q4 is complete. Special shoutout to Palmerston North - No major injuries for the entire quarter. Edited July 30, 2024 by Yankiwi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted July 30, 2024 Share Posted July 30, 2024 On 30/07/2024 at 6:33 AM, Yankiwi said: 2023/2024 Q4 is complete. Special shoutout to Palmerston North - No major injuries for the entire quarter. Expand Your straight track data doesn't seem aligned to your other post straight track data. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankiwi Posted July 30, 2024 Author Share Posted July 30, 2024 2023/2024 Season Totals. Overall KPI not achieved in any category (Total, Minor/Medium, or Major. My takeaway. At least for major injuries, I believe the KPI is achievable if (and that's a big IF) GRNZ monitors individual track injury statistics in real time & doesn't wait around forever to made needed improvement to the track. If they fixed Manukau & Addington when the shocking injury rates were first being detected, overall KPI achievement would have been a breeze. Those tracks would have been "out of service" for the same amount of time, but by delaying their repairs until a more convenient time, it really came back to bite them in the ass, in more ways than one. 2022/2023 compared to 2023/2024 seasons. Up in all categories. Total injuries - 22/23 = 24.2 per thousand. 23/24 = 25.9 per thousand (+1.7 per thousand) Minor/Med injuries - 22/23 = 17.9 per thousand. 23/24 = 19 per thousand (+1.1 per thousand) Major1/2/Death - 22/23 = 6.33 per thousand. 23/24 = 6.84 per thousand (+.5 per thousand) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankiwi Posted July 30, 2024 Author Share Posted July 30, 2024 On 30/07/2024 at 7:03 AM, Chief Stipe said: Your straight track data doesn't seem aligned to your other post straight track data. Expand Other (now old) data didn't include last Wednesday's racing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted July 30, 2024 Share Posted July 30, 2024 On 30/07/2024 at 7:07 AM, Yankiwi said: My takeaway. At least for major injuries, I believe the KPI is achievable if (and that's a big IF) GRNZ monitors individual track injury statistics in real time & doesn't wait around forever to made needed improvement to the track. Expand WTF does "measure in real time mean"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted July 30, 2024 Share Posted July 30, 2024 On 30/07/2024 at 7:08 AM, Yankiwi said: Other (now old) data didn't include last Wednesday's racing. Expand So you are not updating in "real time"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankiwi Posted July 30, 2024 Author Share Posted July 30, 2024 On 30/07/2024 at 7:16 AM, Chief Stipe said: So you are not updating in "real time"? Expand Don't you know how your website works? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted July 30, 2024 Share Posted July 30, 2024 On 30/07/2024 at 7:19 AM, Yankiwi said: Don't you know how your website works? Expand So you are posting old data faking it as new. With all the time you have on your hands I'd expect you'd be real time. Posting end of quarter data before the end of quarter. I guess that's future time not real time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankiwi Posted July 30, 2024 Author Share Posted July 30, 2024 Point 1) You don't know how quoting a previous post works on your website. When you quote a previous post (a couple weeks old in this case) it brings that already existing data into the new post. Point 2) No racing on today (31 Jul) means 23/24 Q4 & Season are effectively completed. Grow up Chief. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankiwi Posted July 30, 2024 Author Share Posted July 30, 2024 On 30/07/2024 at 8:31 AM, Chief Stipe said: I'd expect you'd be real time. Expand I did post real time data. Has GRNZ posted completed 23/24 season data, no. I have. Has GRNZ posted 23/24 Q4 data, no. I have. FFS, GRNZ hasn't even made their 23/24 Q3 injury data public yet! Q3 ended 3 months ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted July 30, 2024 Share Posted July 30, 2024 On 30/07/2024 at 8:30 PM, Yankiwi said: I did post real time data. Expand You don't even know what the term means. On 30/07/2024 at 8:30 PM, Yankiwi said: Has GRNZ posted completed 23/24 season data, no. I have Expand But you don't have access to ALL the data. On 30/07/2024 at 8:30 PM, Yankiwi said: FFS, GRNZ hasn't even made their 23/24 Q3 injury data public yet! Q3 ended 3 months ago. Expand I didn't realise they had a KPI to do so. Perhaps unlike you they are collating their data from multiple sources and checking for errors. Your data is often erroneous and your presentation of it more so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted July 30, 2024 Share Posted July 30, 2024 On 30/07/2024 at 8:26 PM, Yankiwi said: Point 1) You don't know how quoting a previous post works on your website. Expand Really @Yankiwi you're an expert on that as well? On 30/07/2024 at 8:26 PM, Yankiwi said: When you quote a previous post (a couple weeks old in this case) it brings that already existing data into the new post. Expand Which means it is old data that you are republishing I.e. it isn't real time. On 30/07/2024 at 8:26 PM, Yankiwi said: Grow up Chief. Expand The point was that you don't have access to ALL the data. Hell you even made a point that a dog was found injured well AFTER the race. I suggest you get a life or modify your obsession. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankiwi Posted August 1, 2024 Author Share Posted August 1, 2024 Overall injuries Major 1, Major 2 & Euth. 23/24 season (my data) .68% of all starters. 22/23 season (GRNZ) .63% of all starters. 21/22 season (GRNZ) .67% of all starters. 20/21 season (GRNZ) .69% of all starters. GRNZ did not provide injury data publicly for previous seasons. If GRNZ shut down Manukau in November 2023 for its refurb and transferred racing operations to Cambridge, instead of waiting until March 2024 to do it, their overall KPI for major injuries may have been achieved. On top of that, GRNZ constantly singled the need to refurb Addington, yet delayed & waited until they could most conveniently fit it into the schedule. If they acted with haste, once the need had been identified, and actioned Manukau in November which was blatantly obvious, their KPI for major injuries would have been easily met. The failure rests solely on decision GRNZ had made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted August 2, 2024 Share Posted August 2, 2024 On 1/08/2024 at 11:08 PM, Yankiwi said: If GRNZ shut down Manukau in November 2023 for its refurb and transferred racing operations to Cambridge, instead of waiting until March 2024 to do it, their overall KPI for major injuries may have been achieved. Expand There is no evidence that you have presented that supports that statement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankiwi Posted August 2, 2024 Author Share Posted August 2, 2024 On 2/08/2024 at 1:02 AM, Chief Stipe said: There is no evidence that you have presented that supports that statement. Expand In the interim, I have my data to support my claim. Six months from now, when GRNZ finally releases their full season injury data, my statement will become officially substantiated. You can countdown the 180 days if you'd like to Chief. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted August 2, 2024 Share Posted August 2, 2024 On 2/08/2024 at 3:54 AM, Yankiwi said: In the interim, I have my data to support my claim. Six months from now, when GRNZ finally releases their full season injury data, my statement will become officially substantiated. You can countdown the 180 days if you'd like to Chief. Expand Quite frankly I have better things to do. I disagree you have valid data. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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