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Was the Derby draw a FIX...or just F'ED up??


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7 minutes ago, Thomass said:

Totally irrelevant of course

What I would say is a 200/1 outsider drawing the ace..slotted an easy run all the way...while Davo's choice of 10 had to be used up...slotting one behind the roughy who than ran down Te Akau's horse who had a harder run

Oh so all of TA wasn't in on the so called rort?  Hell you talk some shyte.

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There's been a bit of talk on here regarding Gai Waterhouse and how we should all sit up and take notice of her.  Remember when she had a runner in the Railway yonks ago.  She said that she was never worried about what her horses drew.

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2 hours ago, Chief Stipe said:

Oh so all of TA wasn't in on the so called rort?  Hell you talk some shyte.

Yea but you're OLDE school

...and there's no fool like an OLDE fool

When Big Davo hears about this he's gunna kick the cat...and he usually loves pussies

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16 minutes ago, Special Agent said:

There's been a bit of talk on here regarding Gai Waterhouse and how we should all sit up and take notice of her.  Remember when she had a runner in the Railway yonks ago.  She said that she was never worried about what her horses drew.

Isn't Waterhouse a bad example though?

Like her Dadda, her modus is to send them forward and to hell with what barrier..

Trains them like hard and fast..and like her Dadda...huge turnover of horses after they break down

Tommy didn't care...as long as he got the money

The point here being EVERY owner/trainer had the right to expect a random spread of barrier numbers...

...not some amateur shit show where 2 rows had 1-2 in a row of 2 and 3-4-5 in a row of 3...right alongside each other

0.00000135 shit show of that happening in a random 'draw'

 

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17 minutes ago, Thomass said:

Isn't Waterhouse a bad example though?

Like her Dadda, her modus is to send them forward and to hell with what barrier..

Trains them like hard and fast..and like her Dadda...huge turnover of horses after they break down

Tommy didn't care...as long as he got the money

The point here being EVERY owner/trainer had the right to expect a random spread of barrier numbers...

...not some amateur shit show where 2 rows had 1-2 in a row of 2 and 3-4-5 in a row of 3...right alongside each other

0.00000135 shit show of that happening in a random 'draw'

 

But it didn't make a random bit of difference even if what you infer was remotely correct.

2, 3, and 4 were in the last 4!!!

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16 hours ago, Chief Stipe said:

But it didn't make a random bit of difference even if what you infer was remotely correct.

2, 3, and 4 were in the last 4!!!

I'm a simple simpleton...

In that regard moi fails to understand from one to another how you can't come to grips with the main point wrt INTEGRITY of the process..

No f'er gives a flying fox if barriers matter or not...

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32 minutes ago, Thomass said:

In that regard moi fails to understand from one to another how you can't come to grips with the main point wrt INTEGRITY of the process..

You're the only one suggesting that some skuduggery occurred.  

33 minutes ago, Thomass said:

No f'er gives a flying fox if barriers matter or not...

Exactly.

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1 hour ago, Chief Stipe said:

You're the only one suggesting that some skuduggery occurred.  

Exactly.

What Freda said...post it in your hat....tattoo it to your noggin..

"After dusting off all the peripheral stuff.....in plain English, it is not enough for a process to be impartial, it must be SEEN to be impartial.  Above reproach."

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2 minutes ago, Thomass said:

What Freda said...post it in your hat....tattoo it to your noggin..

"After dusting off all the peripheral stuff.....in plain English, it is not enough for a process to be impartial, it must be SEEN to be impartial.  Above reproach."

But you are the only one banging on about it!!!

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1 hour ago, All The Aces said:

I concur with Thomas is saying. The odds of the low barriers being on one table and and high barriers on the other would be huge after supposedly being mixed up.  

Onya Aces, I  knew I could rely on you and Freda for the ability to smell horse shit when you see it!

Just to regurgitate...not only 2 tables...but 2 rows together..one of 2..1-2 barriers....one of 3 ... 3-4-5 barriers!! 0.00000135 chance!

Now in the vernacular...looks like horse shit, smells like horse shit, tastes like horse shit...washed down with Moet...still horse shit

it IS HORSE SHIT!!!

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3 hours ago, All The Aces said:

I concur with Thomas is saying. The odds of the low barriers being on one table and and high barriers on the other would be huge after supposedly being mixed up.  

Obviously you don't know anything about probability.

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20 minutes ago, Thomass said:

Onya Aces, I  knew I could rely on you and Freda for the ability to smell horse shit when you see it!

Just to regurgitate...not only 2 tables...but 2 rows together..one of 2..1-2 barriers....one of 3 ... 3-4-5 barriers!! 0.00000135 chance!

Now in the vernacular...looks like horse shit, smells like horse shit, tastes like horse shit...washed down with Moet...still horse shit

it IS HORSE SHIT!!!

In your case the usual Bullshit.

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Whatever the odds are, and they are not as low as you think, there isn't ZERO chance of it happening therefore what happened has a chance of happening.  That chance happened.

Not to mention it didn't make a jot of difference to where the horses finished.  

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24 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said:

Whatever the odds are, and they are not as low as you think, there isn't ZERO chance of it happening therefore what happened has a chance of happening.  That chance happened.

Not to mention it didn't make a jot of difference to where the horses finished.  

I consulted a maths teacher actually...so they're VERY accurate

About as much chance of being struck by lightning...

..and there were ZERO clouds around that day...

Show us your workings then...and I'll show you mine

1-2-3-4-5-7 barriers on an 8 bottle table

RIB "an RIB member observed the process"

Is Craig Baker a dagg part time trickster who moved the Moets around so fast Brady got dizzy?

Did Brady observe the numbers coming out of a bag for instance?

 

 

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12 minutes ago, Doomed said:

I wonder how many people actually watched the draw? Hardly riveting TV for most of us.

Confession...I stumbled over it...Guerin was MC...what a dagg...interviews were interesting 

Rogie tried to swipe a Moet off Brady and every man and his dggy dog laughed like horse shit

One couldn't but notice the pattern @ the 2 rows...it was edge of your seat stuff when Reecey went up to deliver the coup de grace to INTEGRITY...and chose 5!! 1-2-3-4-5...all together...snug az

I fell on the floor laughing my tits off and the dog joined in

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55 minutes ago, Thomass said:

I consulted a maths teacher actually...so they're VERY accurate

Suggest you consult a mathematician rather than a primary school math teacher.

56 minutes ago, Thomass said:

About as much chance of being struck by lightning.

So you admit now it was possible I.e. the chance was greater than zero.

Then again you still believe draws make a difference.

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15 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said:

Suggest you consult a mathematician rather than a primary school math teacher.

So you admit now it was possible I.e. the chance was greater than zero.

Then again you still believe draws make a difference.

Actually I forgot to tell them HUMANS were involved so they could factor that in...

That would've been out of a lotto barrel scenario machine thingy...rather than a sweaty human who slipped over their thumbs...while being observed by an unobservant human

Human factor x2 or x5??

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