Lorna Mitchell Posted August 11 Share Posted August 11 6th June at Cambridge. A greyhound went through kennelling got rugged race and was disqualified. There was nothing on stipes report So why do you have people scanning the dogs when this dogs would have gone through 2 scanning. Even 3 if swab Yes it was a coles dog too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorna Mitchell Posted August 11 Author Share Posted August 11 6 minutes ago, Lorna Mitchell said: 6th June at Cambridge. A greyhound went through kennelling got rugged race and was disqualified. There was nothing on stipes report So why do you have people scanning the dogs when this dogs would have gone through 2 scanning. Even 3 if swab Yes it was a coles dog too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted August 11 Share Posted August 11 1 hour ago, Lorna Mitchell said: 6th June at Cambridge. A greyhound went through kennelling got rugged race and was disqualified. There was nothing on stipes report So why do you have people scanning the dogs when this dogs would have gone through 2 scanning. Even 3 if swab Yes it was a coles dog too How do you know this happened? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorna Mitchell Posted August 11 Author Share Posted August 11 1 hour ago, Chief Stipe said: How do you know this happened? Heard the race caller say about it when dog raced at Cambridge last meeting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted August 11 Share Posted August 11 1 hour ago, Lorna Mitchell said: Heard the race caller say about it when dog raced at Cambridge last meeting. Heard the race caller say what exactly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorna Mitchell Posted August 11 Author Share Posted August 11 1 hour ago, Chief Stipe said: Heard the race caller say what exactly? That the dog had won a race on the track. And was later disqualified as for it being wrong dog. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorna Mitchell Posted August 11 Author Share Posted August 11 8 minutes ago, Lorna Mitchell said: That the dog had won a race on the track. And was later disqualified as for it being wrong dog. Caller was mark rosco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aquaman Posted August 11 Share Posted August 11 I had a dog race at Invercargill back in the day that was the wrong dog. I was in Auck racing, and I had arranged for another trainer to pick up my dog in Cant and take to Invercargill with them, and you guessed it, took wrong dog. Even though the dog that was supposed to go was a brindle, and the dog that went was black and white it passed all ID and raced much to my shock watching on TV in Auckland. Needless to say I kept my mouth shut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted August 11 Share Posted August 11 17 hours ago, Lorna Mitchell said: There was nothing on stipes report It is listed as Disqualified in the results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted August 11 Share Posted August 11 10 minutes ago, aquaman said: I had a dog race at Invercargill back in the day that was the wrong dog. I was in Auck racing, and I had arranged for another trainer to pick up my dog in Cant and take to Invercargill with them, and you guessed it, took wrong dog. Even though the dog that was supposed to go was a brindle, and the dog that went was black and white it passed all ID and raced much to my shock watching on TV in Auckland. Needless to say I kept my mouth shut. I'm surprised it doesn't happen more often. Perhaps it does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorna Mitchell Posted August 11 Author Share Posted August 11 30 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: It is listed as Disqualified in the results. I would have thought that something should have come up in stipes report. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted August 11 Share Posted August 11 43 minutes ago, Lorna Mitchell said: I would have thought that something should have come up in stipes report. True. I can't find anything on the RIB site either. But then that site isn't that good for searching for descisions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finishing line Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 I think you answered your own question... Who's dog was it?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankiwi Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 On 11/08/2024 at 3:32 PM, Lorna Mitchell said: Yes it was a coles dog too It's never been about what has been done. It's always been about who's done it. Coles are more protected within the greyhound industry than kiwis are protected as an endangered species by the NZ Govt. 9 hours ago, Lorna Mitchell said: I would have thought that something should have come up in stipes report. Coles should have been charged for presenting the wrong dog. Kenneling Steward should have been charged for not detecting that it was the incorrect dog. That'd be integrity, which is something that has been seriously lacking in all the years I've followed the sport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankiwi Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 No integrity for punters. No accountability. Who's done it, not what has been done. https://www.grnz.co.nz/catch-the-action/15992/stewards-report.aspx Palmerston North GRC - 10 June 2024 Stewards have concluded their investigation regarding the scratching of ‘NEED A FAVOUR' at the Palmerston North GRC’s meeting on the 10 June 2024. It has been established that two black greyhounds, 'ALL OVER ROVER' and 'NEED A FAVOUR,' were mistakenly identified at the Cole kennels, due to their close resemblance, similar microchip numbers and adjacent kenneling. Trainer Lisa Cole, presented the wrong dog (presumed to be ‘NEED A FAVOUR’) to qualifying trials at the Palmerston North Greyhound Racing Club on May 28, 2024, where the discrepancy in the microchip number was not detected. The error persisted through to the Waikato GRC's meeting on June 6, 2024, where ‘ALL OVER ROVER’ mistakenly raced as 'NEED A FAVOUR'. In response to the steward’s findings, Greyhound Racing New Zealand (GRNZ) has removed the greyhound named NEED A FAVOUR from all trial and race results. The greyhound ALL OVER ROVER has been entered retrospectively and has been disqualified by the stewards from qualifying and racing at the specified meetings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 9 minutes ago, Yankiwi said: No integrity for punters. No accountability. Who's done it, not what has been done. https://www.grnz.co.nz/catch-the-action/15992/stewards-report.aspx Palmerston North GRC - 10 June 2024 Stewards have concluded their investigation regarding the scratching of ‘NEED A FAVOUR' at the Palmerston North GRC’s meeting on the 10 June 2024. It has been established that two black greyhounds, 'ALL OVER ROVER' and 'NEED A FAVOUR,' were mistakenly identified at the Cole kennels, due to their close resemblance, similar microchip numbers and adjacent kenneling. Trainer Lisa Cole, presented the wrong dog (presumed to be ‘NEED A FAVOUR’) to qualifying trials at the Palmerston North Greyhound Racing Club on May 28, 2024, where the discrepancy in the microchip number was not detected. The error persisted through to the Waikato GRC's meeting on June 6, 2024, where ‘ALL OVER ROVER’ mistakenly raced as 'NEED A FAVOUR'. In response to the steward’s findings, Greyhound Racing New Zealand (GRNZ) has removed the greyhound named NEED A FAVOUR from all trial and race results. The greyhound ALL OVER ROVER has been entered retrospectively and has been disqualified by the stewards from qualifying and racing at the specified meetings. Eh? It says what has been done and who did it. The question that you should be asking is what changes have been made to systems to ensure it doesn't happen again. Any suggestions or would you rather there was a lynching? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorna Mitchell Posted August 12 Author Share Posted August 12 What it looks like is no action taken because if you didn't have coles dogs you'd have half a race meeting. So we can't do that. Nothing done so why have stipes and kennel staff. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 26 minutes ago, Lorna Mitchell said: What it looks like is no action taken because if you didn't have coles dogs you'd have half a race meeting. So we can't do that. Nothing done so why have stipes and kennel staff. The dog was disqualified due to a mistake and system failure. What more do you want? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aquaman Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 1 hour ago, Chief Stipe said: The dog was disqualified due to a mistake and system failure. What more do you want? How do you know it was a mistake and not a ring in?, do you have other information?. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 18 minutes ago, aquaman said: How do you know it was a mistake and not a ring in?, do you have other information?. LOL really? Are dog trainers that desperate that they need to win a small amount off the tote? Do you have any evidence that it wasn't a mistake? No you don't. The dog was disqualified before dividends were declared wasn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 I do recall a similar incident with Thoroughbreds in recent years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankiwi Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 1 hour ago, Chief Stipe said: The dog was disqualified due to a mistake and system failure. What more do you want? The dog was disqualified well after the fact, long after the all-clear was given & dividends to the punters have been paid. 13 hours ago, Chief Stipe said: Any suggestions or would you rather there was a lynching? Greyhounds should have ear tattoo's & microchips which are checked prior to kenneling & then again after they've been prepared for the race. If the dog is later selected for a swab, it should be checked a third time. Oh wait, all those measures are already in place. There are more than enough measures in place to assure integrity. If any or everyone drops the ball, they should be held to account. The results now say Big Time Taxi won the race with a win dividend of $1.40. That's quite odd seeing the win dividend should have been $3.60. How does a punter go about returning the money they won betting on All Over Rover or Need A Favour, which ever dog it actually was? How does a punter collect the $3.60 on their $1 win ticket? Maybe Fair Go should be brought back for one more episode to work it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 24 minutes ago, Yankiwi said: The dog was disqualified well after the fact, long after the all-clear was given & dividends to the punters have been paid. Cool. How do you know that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 25 minutes ago, Yankiwi said: The dog was disqualified well after the fact, long after the all-clear was given & dividends to the punters have been paid. Greyhounds should have ear tattoo's & microchips which are checked prior to kenneling & then again after they've been prepared for the race. If the dog is later selected for a swab, it should be checked a third time. Oh wait, all those measures are already in place. There are more than enough measures in place to assure integrity. If any or everyone drops the ball, they should be held to account. The results now say Big Time Taxi won the race with a win dividend of $1.40. That's quite odd seeing the win dividend should have been $3.60. How does a punter go about returning the money they won betting on All Over Rover or Need A Favour, which ever dog it actually was? How does a punter collect the $3.60 on their $1 win ticket? Maybe Fair Go should be brought back for one more episode to work it out. Go for it Chazza. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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