BLINKERS ON First time...what took them sooo long???

[Thomass]

1 hour ago, curious said:

In my experience many trainers prefer NOT to work them in the blinkers. Just put them on race day for the first time. Where did you get the idea that they do?

I worked in 3 stables when I was younger and cant recall any instances where the boss would try BO without training/trialing in them

Besides, it doesn't make sense that you'd risk hyping up a horse with something that new on race day when some horses already over race with them on

Here's Champion Queensland trainer Tony Gollan's thoughts

 I definitely use blinkers and winkers a lot in trackwork to get an understanding of what is going to work on race day and what the horse feels most comfortable racing in.

From a punting point of view, you want to see blinkers applied to a horse who is still on the way up in the preparation and open to improvement.

A lot of the time I see blinkers applied to a horse who has been struggling and the application of blinkers is like a last resort or desperate tactic.

When a horse is not going well and appears to have had enough for the campaign, blinkers or winkers aren't going to make a difference.

[Thomass]

2 hours ago, Chief Stipe said:

How did they discover they "worked"?

Given "work" isn't under race conditions.

However the point the @Pete Lane makes is that Blinkers "first time" doesn’t work more than 50% of the first time.  So how does a punter choose which horse to punt on?

Therefore a punter who makes money does so by looking for value and other factors NOT whether or not a horse is wearing blinkers for the first time.

I don't do stupid questions normally but I'm feeling sorry for dumb animals today

Maybe Dad saw Dan's ratings and how he'd dropped off normal highs, even when winning a G1 3 starts previously??

You'll hear many trainers talk about "saving blinkers up" knowing how well they've trained/trialed in them

As for PL's 'thoughts' re '50%" of the time stat...give me a freaken break

My reason day tear is profiling horses that have raced in superior races.. to win a certain amount and in adding 20% for blinkers...I'm trusting the trainer believes his horse is even more superior with a gear change  

[Pete Lane]

3 hours ago, Thomass said:

You're as nutty as that bloke who goes 'mardigrassing'

Providng a list of B wearers and expecting every single one of them to win, #pffttt

Alors, if after you've 'analysed' the form and for example, you thought Mr. B was already value

one trusts that Benny has trained Mr. B in them 

nek minute Dan discovers they worked and so did Willo

What's so hard about that iron stein?

 

 

I didn't think they would all win but going by your continued championing of this I would've expected one of them to win - maybe.

Face it, it's an idiotic system when it comes to making money.

I notice you declined to post anything you thought would win under your 'system'.

No surprises there - at least you're consistent.

[Thomass]

4 minutes ago, Pete Lane said:

I didn't think they would all win but going by your continued championing of this I would've expected one of them to win - maybe.

Face it, it's an idiotic system when it comes to making money.

I notice you declined to post anything you thought would win under your 'system'.

No surprises there - at least you're consistent.

I found it an interesting foot note to Mr B's form improvement, that's all

Of course it's not a 'system' per se although I use BO sometimes to invest on ID'd form horses who're under the radar...i.e caught wide, checked et el  but still running well to match other in that class, of course at value