Thomass Posted Wednesday at 09:32 AM Author Share Posted Wednesday at 09:32 AM Now this Kurow Jockey Club at Kurow, Monday 30 December 2024 Race 10 COUPLAND WORKING DOG BISCUITS 1400m After concerns were raised, Stewards opened an inquiry into the judge’s official placings in this race, with the matter to be heard at a later date. Seriously, wtf is going on? Zero comment in todays HQ report wrt to the 'follow up" after the inside camera was incorrectly positioned Stakeholders have to put up with this TOTAL lack of transparency with Oatham and his band hiding behind their shades Hopeless Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted Wednesday at 11:37 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 11:37 AM 2 hours ago, Thomass said: Now this Kurow Jockey Club at Kurow, Monday 30 December 2024 Race 10 COUPLAND WORKING DOG BISCUITS 1400m After concerns were raised, Stewards opened an inquiry into the judge’s official placings in this race, with the matter to be heard at a later date. Seriously, wtf is going on? Zero comment in todays HQ report wrt to the 'follow up" after the inside camera was incorrectly positioned Stakeholders have to put up with this TOTAL lack of transparency with Oatham and his band hiding behind their shades Hopeless That's very weird. The stewards sign off the judges placing report which makes it official, so are they opening an inquiry into their own performance here? (b) the Stipendiary Stewards shall await confirmation from the Clerk of the Scales that the last of the Riders of the horses specified in the Judge’s Report has been weighed in and of any issues arising in relation to the weighing in of such Riders under Rules 647 to 649; and (c) a Stipendiary Steward shall counter-sign the Judge’s Report referred to in Rule 703(a) and by doing so declares the Official Result of Placings for that Race 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted Wednesday at 11:54 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 11:54 AM (edited) 2 hours ago, Thomass said: Kurow Jockey Club at Kurow, Monday 30 December 2024 Race 10 COUPLAND WORKING DOG BISCUITS 1400m After concerns were raised, Stewards opened an inquiry into the judge’s official placings in this race, with the matter to be heard at a later date. Where did you see that? It's not in the stipe's report as of now. Also the photo finish photo posted is clearly not at the finish line but before it? The red rail ends at the post. Edited Wednesday at 11:56 AM by curious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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curious Posted Wednesday at 12:32 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 12:32 PM On 27/12/2024 at 10:07 AM, Thomass said: Holy shit...didn't even think about that possibility but knowing how the whole industry operates you could be bang on I suppose you could look back at previous DHs and see if it's the same. Pretty delinquent if that is the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted Wednesday at 11:20 PM Author Share Posted Wednesday at 11:20 PM 11 hours ago, curious said: That's very weird. The stewards sign off the judges placing report which makes it official, so are they opening an inquiry into their own performance here? (b) the Stipendiary Stewards shall await confirmation from the Clerk of the Scales that the last of the Riders of the horses specified in the Judge’s Report has been weighed in and of any issues arising in relation to the weighing in of such Riders under Rules 647 to 649; and (c) a Stipendiary Steward shall counter-sign the Judge’s Report referred to in Rule 703(a) and by doing so declares the Official Result of Placings for that Race A change was what David Archer was wanting after the Puke debacle ALL sign offs to be checked by stewards before correct weight At Puke the distance from stipes to the judges box is too great and obviously "counter-signing" was a load of b/s Signed AFTER the official 'judge's' placings had already been approved for pay out Unless they looked at it but didn't check the bogus lines the 'Judge' had ordered the cam operator to draw up Also signed the official margin of 0.2L which is THE biggest lie of the whole debacle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted Wednesday at 11:22 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 11:22 PM Yep @Thomass has another special needs topic for the next decade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted Wednesday at 11:25 PM Author Share Posted Wednesday at 11:25 PM 11 hours ago, curious said: Where did you see that? It's not in the stipe's report as of now. Also the photo finish photo posted is clearly not at the finish line but before it? The red rail ends at the post. it was in yesterdays report under 'General' stuff 4 horses in a blanket finish with #1 6th Sometimes that red line is also inaccurate when adjusting the running rail Mentioned it to Mark Davo a number of times and which also confused the riders using the supposed 100M mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted Wednesday at 11:27 PM Author Share Posted Wednesday at 11:27 PM 11 hours ago, curious said: Note the end of the red line doesn't mark up to the middle of camera If it was Ruakaka they'd be f'ed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted Wednesday at 11:36 PM Author Share Posted Wednesday at 11:36 PM 10 hours ago, curious said: I suppose you could look back at previous DHs and see if it's the same. Pretty delinquent if that is the case. Well I noticed a DH posted a few days ago for 4th and the same time So unless it's only placings they cant publish correctly?? That'd be just nuts though As we know they do NUTS extremely well at NZTR Fancy issuing a DH at HQ as a different time and margin to the original DH result just because the protest overturned the same time and margin? Maybe he issued the time/margin from the inaccurately positioned inside camera? it's gibberish and they love it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted Wednesday at 11:42 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 11:42 PM 12 minutes ago, Thomass said: Note the end of the red line doesn't mark up to the middle of camera If it was Ruakaka they'd be f'ed Haven't you watched the Ruakaka races for nearly two years? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted Wednesday at 11:50 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 11:50 PM 16 minutes ago, Thomass said: Note the end of the red line doesn't mark up to the middle of camera Assuming that it isn't a parallax error caused by where the pictured was taken from it would have no impact on a Jockey as they are supposed to ride through the line. The 20 centimetre (if it exists) is less than a 1/1000th of a second. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted Thursday at 12:16 AM Author Share Posted Thursday at 12:16 AM 23 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: Assuming that it isn't a parallax error caused by where the pictured was taken from it would have no impact on a Jockey as they are supposed to ride through the line. The 20 centimetre (if it exists) is less than a 1/1000th of a second. As you suggest, it's irrelevant but its indicative of how accuracy/integrity have been allowed to depart the scene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murray Fish Posted Thursday at 12:42 AM Share Posted Thursday at 12:42 AM 1 hour ago, Chief Stipe said: Yep @Thomass has another special needs topic for the next decade. throw a dog a bone to keep them happy! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted Thursday at 01:18 AM Share Posted Thursday at 01:18 AM 1 hour ago, Thomass said: Well I noticed a DH posted a few days ago for 4th and the same time It would have the margin from third for both horses though so no zero margin required. It would only be a problem in a DH for first wouldn't it? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chimbu Posted Thursday at 07:20 AM Share Posted Thursday at 07:20 AM Curious, It is from the General section of stipe's report from Riverton on 1 Jan 2025 and is still there as I post this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted Thursday at 07:34 AM Share Posted Thursday at 07:34 AM 12 minutes ago, Chimbu said: Curious, It is from the General section of stipe's report from Riverton on 1 Jan 2025 and is still there as I post this. Yes thanks. I saw it earlier after Thomass posted that same info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted Thursday at 11:26 PM Author Share Posted Thursday at 11:26 PM 22 hours ago, curious said: It would have the margin from third for both horses though so no zero margin required. It would only be a problem in a DH for first wouldn't it? Maybe ENTAIN have instructed NZTR to "never find another DH again" Even forcing 'camera operators to draw two imaginary lines and altering a nose margin to a head's 0.2L Their modus operandi has absolutely zero scruples Having to pay out on DH's with their miserly Ladbrokes attitude is too much to bare? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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