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Kurow Jockey Club at Kurow, Monday 30 December 2024 Race 10 COUPLAND WORKING DOG BISCUITS 1400m After concerns were raised, Stewards opened an inquiry into the judge’s official placings in this race, with the matter to be heard at a later date.

Seriously, wtf is going on?

Zero comment in todays HQ report wrt to the 'follow up" after the inside camera was incorrectly positioned

Stakeholders have to put up with this TOTAL lack of transparency with Oatham and his band hiding behind their shades

Hopeless

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2 hours ago, Thomass said:

Now this

Kurow Jockey Club at Kurow, Monday 30 December 2024 Race 10 COUPLAND WORKING DOG BISCUITS 1400m After concerns were raised, Stewards opened an inquiry into the judge’s official placings in this race, with the matter to be heard at a later date.

Seriously, wtf is going on?

Zero comment in todays HQ report wrt to the 'follow up" after the inside camera was incorrectly positioned

Stakeholders have to put up with this TOTAL lack of transparency with Oatham and his band hiding behind their shades

Hopeless

That's very weird. The stewards sign off the judges placing report which makes it official, so are they opening an inquiry into their own performance here?

(b) the Stipendiary Stewards shall await confirmation from the Clerk of the Scales that the last of
the Riders of the horses specified in the Judge’s Report has been weighed in and of any issues
arising in relation to the weighing in of such Riders under Rules 647 to 649; and
(c) a Stipendiary Steward shall counter-sign the Judge’s Report referred to in Rule 703(a) and by
doing so declares the Official Result of Placings for that Race

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2 hours ago, Thomass said:

Kurow Jockey Club at Kurow, Monday 30 December 2024 Race 10 COUPLAND WORKING DOG BISCUITS 1400m After concerns were raised, Stewards opened an inquiry into the judge’s official placings in this race, with the matter to be heard at a later date.

Where did you see that? It's not in the stipe's report as of now. Also the photo finish photo posted is clearly not at the finish line but before it? The red rail ends at the post.

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11 hours ago, curious said:

That's very weird. The stewards sign off the judges placing report which makes it official, so are they opening an inquiry into their own performance here?

(b) the Stipendiary Stewards shall await confirmation from the Clerk of the Scales that the last of
the Riders of the horses specified in the Judge’s Report has been weighed in and of any issues
arising in relation to the weighing in of such Riders under Rules 647 to 649; and
(c) a Stipendiary Steward shall counter-sign the Judge’s Report referred to in Rule 703(a) and by
doing so declares the Official Result of Placings for that Race

A change was what David Archer was wanting after the Puke debacle

ALL sign offs to be checked by stewards before correct weight

At Puke the distance from stipes to the judges box is too great and obviously "counter-signing" was a load of b/s

Signed AFTER the official 'judge's' placings had already been approved for pay out

Unless they looked at it but didn't check the bogus lines the 'Judge' had ordered the cam operator to draw up

Also signed the official margin of 0.2L which is THE biggest lie of the whole debacle

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11 hours ago, curious said:

Where did you see that? It's not in the stipe's report as of now. Also the photo finish photo posted is clearly not at the finish line but before it? The red rail ends at the post.

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it was in yesterdays report under 'General' stuff

4 horses in a blanket finish with #1 6th

Sometimes that red line is also inaccurate when adjusting the running rail

Mentioned it to Mark Davo a number of times and which also confused the riders using the supposed 100M mark

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10 hours ago, curious said:

I suppose you could look back at previous DHs and see if it's the same. Pretty delinquent if that is the case.

Well I  noticed a DH posted a few days ago for 4th and the same time

So unless it's only placings they cant publish correctly??

That'd be just nuts though

As we know they do NUTS extremely well at NZTR

Fancy issuing a DH at HQ as a different time and margin to the original DH result just because the protest overturned the same time and margin?

Maybe he issued the time/margin from the inaccurately positioned inside camera?

it's gibberish and they love it 

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16 minutes ago, Thomass said:

Note the end of the red line doesn't mark up to the middle of camera

 

Assuming that it isn't a parallax error caused by where the pictured was taken from it would have no impact on a Jockey as they are supposed to ride through the line.  The 20 centimetre (if it exists) is less than a 1/1000th of a second. 

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23 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said:

Assuming that it isn't a parallax error caused by where the pictured was taken from it would have no impact on a Jockey as they are supposed to ride through the line.  The 20 centimetre (if it exists) is less than a 1/1000th of a second. 

As you suggest, it's irrelevant but its indicative of how accuracy/integrity have been allowed to depart the scene

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22 hours ago, curious said:

It would have the margin from third for both horses though so no zero margin required. It would only be a problem in a DH for first wouldn't it?

Maybe ENTAIN have instructed NZTR to "never find another DH again" 

Even forcing 'camera operators to draw two imaginary lines and altering a nose margin to a head's 0.2L

Their modus operandi has absolutely zero scruples

Having to pay out on DH's with their miserly Ladbrokes attitude is too much to bare?

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