the galah Posted December 17, 2024 Share Posted December 17, 2024 some of these races can be just as exciting,if not more,than the big race nights. That last race,i never had a bet,but found a great watch. The winner kawhi,had been bought off gavel house about a month ago for $8501. now trained by darren keast. Hes the first trotter keast has lined up at the races this year.Looking at his record i see hes only lined up a trotter 6 times in the last 4 years. I think he may have won a race on cup day with a trotter in 2020. Today driven by matthew williamson,he went straight to the front from the stand and ran his rivals ragged,but with 200m still to run he went from looking the winner to looking rather tired. Blair orange was the only one within cooe,but blair orange being the man,seemed to get his drive ,crown the moment to lift and with 100m to go,he looked like he was going to go past kawhi quite comfortably. But then,under vigorous driving from matthew williamson,kawhi turned his head and peered around the blinds he had on,and recognising he may get beaten,and alamost said,not today sunshine,your not getting past me,and kicked again to win. every harness race is a different spectacle,some are more exciting than others to watch,but for me i get just as much a kick out of watching tuesday meetings as i do cup days. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted December 17, 2024 Share Posted December 17, 2024 48 minutes ago, the galah said: some of these races can be just as exciting,if not more,than the big race nights. That last race,i never had a bet,but found a great watch. The winner kawhi,had been bought off gavel house about a month ago for $8501. now trained by darren keast. Hes the first trotter keast has lined up at the races this year.Looking at his record i see hes only lined up a trotter 6 times in the last 4 years. I think he may have won a race on cup day with a trotter in 2020. Today driven by matthew williamson,he went straight to the front from the stand and ran his rivals ragged,but with 200m still to run he went from looking the winner to looking rather tired. Blair orange was the only one within cooe,but blair orange being the man,seemed to get his drive ,crown the moment to lift and with 100m to go,he looked like he was going to go past kawhi quite comfortably. But then,under vigorous driving from matthew williamson,kawhi turned his head and peered around the blinds he had on,and recognising he may get beaten,and alamost said,not today sunshine,your not getting past me,and kicked again to win. every harness race is a different spectacle,some are more exciting than others to watch,but for me i get just as much a kick out of watching tuesday meetings as i do cup days. Correct, the Loose class racing for punting represents far better opportunities without doubt! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spatchcock Posted December 17, 2024 Share Posted December 17, 2024 Cant agree... that was some poor racing today. Race 1 - the usual standard of driving delivers a 4-month suspension and a driver with broken shoulder and ribs Race 2 - 2.13 mile rate, home in 63.5 and 32.7 Race 3 - a woeful field with no moves and a 2.05 mile rate Race 5 - a 38-start maiden attacks for the lead twice, killing the leader/fav's chances and also taking another favoured runner out when it stops at the 500. Maybe the second half of the card was better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westview Posted December 17, 2024 Share Posted December 17, 2024 2 hours ago, Spatchcock said: Cant agree... that was some poor racing today. Race 1 - the usual standard of driving delivers a 4-month suspension and a driver with broken shoulder and ribs Race 2 - 2.13 mile rate, home in 63.5 and 32.7 Race 3 - a woeful field with no moves and a 2.05 mile rate Race 5 - a 38-start maiden attacks for the lead twice, killing the leader/fav's chances and also taking another favoured runner out when it stops at the 500. Maybe the second half of the card was better Probably not a great spectacle but nine happy winning owners and 18 placed horse's. Race those horse's any other day and I'm picking they would struggle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted December 18, 2024 Share Posted December 18, 2024 4 hours ago, Spatchcock said: Cant agree... that was some poor racing today. Race 1 - the usual standard of driving delivers a 4-month suspension and a driver with broken shoulder and ribs Race 2 - 2.13 mile rate, home in 63.5 and 32.7 Race 3 - a woeful field with no moves and a 2.05 mile rate Race 5 - a 38-start maiden attacks for the lead twice, killing the leader/fav's chances and also taking another favoured runner out when it stops at the 500. Maybe the second half of the card was better Thats what I mean Spatchcock, far better opportunities for the punter to sort them out. Trying to sort out value on a Friday night amongst multiple race winners is gambling! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the galah Posted December 18, 2024 Author Share Posted December 18, 2024 (edited) 8 hours ago, Spatchcock said: Cant agree... that was some poor racing today. Race 1 - the usual standard of driving delivers a 4-month suspension and a driver with broken shoulder and ribs Race 2 - 2.13 mile rate, home in 63.5 and 32.7 Race 3 - a woeful field with no moves and a 2.05 mile rate Race 5 - a 38-start maiden attacks for the lead twice, killing the leader/fav's chances and also taking another favoured runner out when it stops at the 500. Maybe the second half of the card was better If your going to dismiss yesterdays racing as "poor racing' ,i hope your not someone who promotes the sport or is an administrator. it was not poor racing,it was lower class racing. Theres a difference and you seem very dismissive of the segment of the industry who competed yesterday,who's numbers are disappearing, many due to administrators making decisions which many of yesterdays participants would percieve as highlighting they are considered of no value,or deserving of fair treatment. as to your comments about certain races. if you value all participants within harness racing,you should be able to look at any tuesday field and come up with ways the interest in which the viewing public and punters can be stimulated,ways which build on the knowledge of those competing and giving those associated with them reason to smile as they enjoy a small,sometimes fleeting moment in the spotlight. i will give an example of what i mean as regards the races you specifically described as poor. these are things that the commentator,trackside presenter,HRNZ racing promoter should be discussing each meeting,pre meeting. Other media should be given talking points as well for publication. race 2.certainly wasn't a field of high grade horses. Buts its was one similar to what you get at cambridge on tuesdays or at the west coast over christmas,just westport get more there. i saw race 2 as an opportunity to put some focus on Hoofn it.Thats who i watched. There you had a Trotter trained by someone called Mr Trotter. Now Mr Trotter,not sure his age,but i don't think hes any spring chicked and he was going for his first ever driving win.He has trained just the 1 winner from 105 starters and he has a horse by ohoka arizona,not known for siring trotters and he was driving an 8 year old.Hoofn it has come into some solid form at these tuesday meetings and everything about this horse and trainer epitomises the very peiopkle the industry is losing. people watching are interested in things like that.With Mr trotter driving,there were lots of easily made puns for the commentator to drop into his commentary and comments. The commentator could easily have talked pre race about likely tactics and added ,you know it makes sense. After he ran second he could have said,another $1200 in the bank,cushty or lovely jubbly and of course there would be places for h who dares wins and this time next year.. He could easily be made into one of the most recognised horses running,even if its subconciously for some, and with it people recognise the role people like trotter play in the industry. race 3 you called it a woeful field.That is such a negative comment. No need for that type of thinking at all. instead of looking at it negatively,it should be approached from a perspective of the race being for horses and connections looking for their first raceday cheques. race 5.you said a 38 start maiden killing the favs /leaders chances by attacking twice. you previously commented how race 2 and 3 had no moves,but you don't seem happy when there is some action. Besides,if you wwatched he race,you should have seen the favorite go rough in its gait as the 38 start maiden was being restrained to trail,so the driver of that horse obviously thought pulling back behind a horse half galloping not a clever move,so pressed on again,only for the favorite to settle down and again be pushed to lead. the amatuer driver who got hurt in race 1 was very unfortunate. surprisngly he was shown on trackside turning around and giving the thumbs up as he got into the ambulance. Also,you describe the standard of racing as poor. New zealands leading male,female,leading 3 juniors all were driving in most races. Their skills are nearlty always on display at the tuesday meetings in canterbury. As i pointed out earlier,race 4 had a particularly good battle between new zealands leading driver and otagos leading driver. Edited December 18, 2024 by the galah 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nowornever Posted December 18, 2024 Share Posted December 18, 2024 3 hours ago, the galah said: There you had a Trotter trained by someone called Mr Trotter. Now Mr Trotter,not sure his age,but i don't think hes any spring chicked and he was going for his first ever driving win.He has trained just the 1 winner from 105 starters and he has a horse by ohoka arizona,not known for siring trotters and he was driving an 8 year old.Hoofn it has come into some solid form at these tuesday meetings and everything about this horse and trainer epitomises the very peiopkle the industry is losing. I didn't think it was possible to get parked out all the way in what was literally a field of five but Mr Trotter proved me wrong. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the galah Posted December 18, 2024 Author Share Posted December 18, 2024 (edited) 48 minutes ago, Nowornever said: I didn't think it was possible to get parked out all the way in what was literally a field of five but Mr Trotter proved me wrong. He was a bit unlucky in that respect. The leader was getting away from the field,as the horse in the trail appeared to struggle to go fast enough,but when he made his move,the horse in the trail seemed to concentrate better and just did enough to keep him parked.Tactically i thought he drove it ok,sometimes things just don't quite work out in a drivers favour and that was one of them. But i was entertaining to watch. i'm in total agreement with brodie in that its easier for an informed punter to make money on lower grade racing than the racing you see on friday nights where the fields are more even. to me its just logic. when theres a greater difference in abilty between each horse,as you normally get in the lower grades,then its easier to make money. for years now,the races i can make the most money on are the likes of non win trots or non win pacers. Edited December 18, 2024 by the galah 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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