The 2 Days of Xmas Comp

[mardigras]

2 minutes ago, The Diceman's Been said:

Any room for an old codger in this comp?

Sure, who did you have in mind?

And are you entering also?

[The Diceman's Been]

16 minutes ago, mardigras said:

Sure, who did you have in mind?

And are you entering also?

It might have a few impediments, but giving you a toweling on the punt certainly ain't one of them. Bring it on Sonny.

[mardigras]

15 minutes ago, The Diceman's Been said:

It might have a few impediments, but giving you a toweling on the punt certainly ain't one of them. Bring it on Sonny.

 

I have no expectation of winning - so giving me a toweling should be even within your wrinkly grasp!

[curious]

OK .... in the spirit of the holiday season, I'll add $200 to the prize. Condition is you get one NZTAB bet with that and any proceeds go to a charity of the winners choice.

[Docker]

Hi Hesi

I'm in if FTF decides to participate.

Just a few questions. Does a scratching go on the fixed odd favourite or the tote sub? Are results calculated on the tote dividend or fixed odds?  Does a result only count if a selection wins? (a place result may return a greater value than an e/w). For late scratchings, are selection changes allowed. If a meeting is abandoned, is the competition void or the current leader wins.

Thanks

[mardigras]

1 minute ago, curious said:

OK .... in the spirit of the holiday season, I'll add $200 to the prize. Condition is you get one NZTAB bet with that and any proceeds go to a charity of the winners choice.

I'll join you on that. I'd be happy with prize must go on bet, but if that wins, prize winner gets minimum of 50% of initial prize + 20% of profit from bet. Rest goes to registered charity. i.e prize pool $600, winner gets $300 if bet successful, rest to charity.

Even though I won't win, if by chance I did, all money would go to charity.

[The Diceman's Been]

My dog is named Charity and he is registered so I say well done and thank you.

[JasonMc]

13 minutes ago, curious said:

OK .... in the spirit of the holiday season, I'll add $200 to the prize. Condition is you get one NZTAB bet with that and any proceeds go to a charity of the winners choice.

Oh so really want to win this now and i have an awesome charity that would love the money 

[mardigras]

Just now, The Diceman's Been said:

My dog is named Charity and he is registered so I say well done and thank you.

Cheers. Luckily the chances of you winning and then coming up with a winning bet are so low, we won't be needing a donation receipt from you.

[hesi]

21 minutes ago, Docker said:

Hi Hesi

I'm in if FTF decides to participate.

Just a few questions. Does a scratching go on the fixed odd favourite or the tote sub? Are results calculated on the tote dividend or fixed odds?  Does a result only count if a selection wins? (a place result may return a greater value than an e/w). For late scratchings, are selection changes allowed. If a meeting is abandoned, is the competition void or the current leader wins.

Thanks

1.  Scratchings on the tote sub

2.  Results calculated on $1ew(on tote prices) on your selection, so a good placing will get you more than a winner, if that winner is a shortish fave.  Please note you have 2 best bets per meeting which is effectively $2 ew

3.  Late scratchings you are on the tote sub, impossible to manage otherwise.  Normal scratchings can be replaced up until the start time of the first race

4.  If Boxing Day partially or fully abandoned, then we carry points through to NYD.  If NYD partially or fully abandoned, then Boxing Day results stand, plus any accrued points on NYD.  If both fully abandoned, then what happens with this comp will be immaterial, as there will probably be a lynching a Ellerslie or mass hari kari somewhere in the NZ racing world

I see some pretty heavy rain predicted though

Edited December 21, 2018 by hesi

[mardigras]

1 minute ago, hesi said:

1.  Scratchings on the tote sub

2.  Results calculated on $1ew on your selection, so a good placing will get you more than a winner, if that winner is a shortish fave.  Please note you have 2 best bets per meeting which is effectively $2 ew

3.  Late scratchings you are on the tote sub, impossible to manage otherwise.  Normal scratchings can be replaced up until the start time of the first race

4.  If Boxing Day partially or fully abandoned, then we carry points through to NYD.  If NYD partially or fully abandoned, then Boxing Day results stand, plus any accrued points on NYD.  If both fully abandoned, then what happens with this comp will be immaterial, as there will probably be a lynching a Ellerslie or mass hari kari somewhere in the NZ racing world

I see some pretty heavy rain predicted though

Are prices on tote - or fixed odds? May have missed that, but that was also asked.

[JasonMc]

Just now, mardigras said:

Are prices on tote - or fixed odds? May have missed that, but that was also asked.

Rule 1 says tote sub so i would assume comp is on tote? 

[hesi]

On tote prices

[mardigras]

Just now, JasonMc said:

Rule 1 says tote sub so i would assume comp is on tote? 

Yep - but clarification is good.

[Docker]

5 minutes ago, hesi said:

1.  Scratchings on the tote sub

2.  Results calculated on $1ew on your selection, so a good placing will get you more than a winner, if that winner is a shortish fave.  Please note you have 2 best bets per meeting which is effectively $2 ew

3.  Late scratchings you are on the tote sub, impossible to manage otherwise.  Normal scratchings can be replaced up until the start time of the first race

4.  If Boxing Day partially or fully abandoned, then we carry points through to NYD.  If NYD partially or fully abandoned, then Boxing Day results stand, plus any accrued points on NYD.  If both fully abandoned, then what happens with this comp will be immaterial, as there will probably be a lynching a Ellerslie or mass hari kari somewhere in the NZ racing world

I see some pretty heavy rain predicted though

Cheers ?

[curious]

My $200 bet though can be FO or tote at the winners choice.

[The Diceman's Been]

Any rules ??

[mardigras]

2 minutes ago, The Diceman's Been said:

Any rules ??

Hesi's decision is final.

[hesi]

We've talked in the past about using FF prices quoted when you post your selection, harder to manage, but a consideration for a future comp mentioned in this thread.

I guess it would be a key thing, as part of your guys skill is assessing value and beating what the TAB puts up

[hesi]

9 minutes ago, curious said:

My $200 bet though can be FO or tote at the winners choice.

Anything you want

[hesi]

Will clarify the prize on the ENTRY THREAD, as others may want to contribute

[hesi]

Anyway, BOXING DAY fields are out, so plenty of time for study.  Beware though, a lot of rain predicted for Auckland prior to Boxing Day

The entry thread will still not go up till Sunday, so as not to detract from the final round of PJ's comp on Saturday

[mardigras]

 

5 minutes ago, hesi said:

We've talked in the past about using FF prices quoted when you post your selection, harder to manage, but a consideration for a future comp mentioned in this thread.

I guess it would be a key thing, as part of your guys skill is assessing value and beating what the TAB puts up

For this comp, it's not so important imo, a bit of fun.

For a comp like barryb suggested, yes, value is going to often be the key. Can be managed by a bet being accompanied by a screen shot of the odds quoted form the betting provider (with time of day displayed). I have some other ideas when such a comp comes about. 

Edited December 21, 2018 by mardigras

[hesi]

17 minutes ago, The Diceman's Been said:

Any rules ??

Where prizemoney is concerned, usually pays to have a few

[Jasper]

2 minutes ago, mardigras said:

 

For this comp, it's not so important imo, a bit of fun.

For a comp like barryb suggested, yes, value is going to often be the key. Can be managed by a bet being accompanied by a screen shot of the odds quoted form the betting provider (with time of day displayed). I have some other ideas when such a comp comes about. 

Look forward to those ideas Mardi 

Imagine If Thomas wins this comp??