Manawatu

[Forbury]

It's the Dylan and Peter race fixing show lead by Dylan to let his father win the first Dylan surprisingly pushes out on home turn to let his father through the sprint lane to win and the leads the way in the second to let his father win again and runs it to suit and is backed off the map 

 

[Nowornever]

Yes. Rule number one always back them when they go to Manawatu. The first four and trifecta in that first race paid great money. Cmon the treble now!

[Gammalite]

12 minutes ago, Nowornever said:

Yes. Rule number one always back them when they go to Manawatu. The first four and trifecta in that first race paid great money. Cmon the treble now!

thought the Number One  rule was backing the micky House Team at Manawatu ?😎

I'll be backing Wilson , HarrisonO and Crystal today in my TRI's .

these young guns can beat those Old codger Fergies duo more often than not. Great young drivers. those old boys a bit 'tired' like David Butcher lol . 😂 Bit of a fluke those first 2 races that Forb's is worried about lol.

Best of luck with your treble anyway.  (Gotta Elect Bill seems generous odds in the Manawatu Cup prelude too) 

[the galah]

1 hour ago, Forbury said:

It's the Dylan and Peter race fixing show lead by Dylan to let his father win the first Dylan surprisingly pushes out on home turn to let his father through the sprint lane to win and the leads the way in the second to let his father win again and runs it to suit and is backed off the map 

 

i don't think he would have been intending to help his father on this occasion.i know in the past he has been put out for a couple of dodgy drives,but i don't think that was one. 

Just the way it turned out.Monaro meg had its chance.Just turned it cost him a higher placing.When i bet on a d ferguson drive,i know he may sometimes pull the wrong rein or go too hard or too slow if in front. 

Actually,if you had watched monaro megs videos when racing in the south island,its best races have been when coming up the inside,so i do see why you thought it odd he came out .t

Actually manawatu is one of those tracks that you do see a lot of odd driving. W house in the last race went on the inside after 200m when it seemed the wrong thing to do. Then came out 400m later but 1 position further back. Manawatu isn't a track where you want to get stuck 4 back the fence,but he drives a lot of winners there. 

H orange and p ferguson are the drivers in the best form at the moment up there in my opinion. C hackett also driving well.

Edited Tuesday at 05:06 AM by the galah

[Gammalite]

On 3/11/2025 at 3:02 PM, the galah said:

H orange and p ferguson are the drivers in the best form at the moment up there in my opinion. C hackett also driving well.

Nice drive by Harrison to win the Manawatu Cup today. was hoping Wilson could pull it off, But Harrison drove the local horse Lord Delmar an absolute treat and beat the hot fav from Waterlea.  a thrill for the locals there !! 

Peter Ferguson did win the first race ok.

But the juniors of Harrison Orange , Wilson House and Crystal Hackett cleaned up the rest of the entire Racecard.

I'm a big Fan of the young drivers getting a go , and those 3 are proving the point over past year lol 👍. 

[the galah]

1 hour ago, Gammalite said:

Nice drive by Harrison to win the Manawatu Cup today. was hoping Wilson could pull it off, But Harrison drove the local horse Lord Delmar an absolute treat and beat the hot fav from Waterlea.  a thrill for the locals there !! 

Peter Ferguson did win the first race ok.

But the juniors of Harrison Orange , Wilson House and Crystal Hackett cleaned up the rest of the entire Racecard.

I'm a big Fan of the young drivers getting a go , and those 3 are proving the point over past year lol 👍. 

The junior drivers premiership is an interesting contest.

The tab has wilson hose as the favorite at $2.10 from carter dalgety at $2.40. harrison orange is at $8. Sam thornley is at $4.50.

Last month i had thought harrison orange was a good chance of winning,but he  doesn't get the same opportunities numbers wise,so in reality its hard to see him winning the title. I think he may be employed by the purdon/phelan training partnership,but they only give him 1 drive a week if hes lucky. I suppose you can understand that as z butcher and c hackett have done the hard yards working for that stable and drive very well,but nevertheless i'm surprised the purdon/phelan stable hasn't taken better advantage of the half penalty wins for their owners while orange is still eligible for them. 

Actually i think the telfer stable in the North island  would win a lot more races if they had h orange driving for them as there number 1 drivera,but i doubt that will happen as they too seem loyal,which i can understand on one hand,but i can't on the other.J dickie is a good driver and i think he may have driven 5 winners in a night not that long ago,but personally i'm not his biggest fan. That stable also has a harrison who is quite capable and the lady from russia started off well,but just seems to lack confidence to show any aggression,so isn't going too good recently.

so as far as the junior title goes,i really can't see C dalgety getting beaten and i'm surprised hes still paying $2.40.

The trainers title is interesting.

M house seems to be on a mission to win that this year.The season is only 2 1/2 months old and already house has 39 wins,which when you comapre it with his 65 wins in the whole of last year,shows he is going to be tough to catch. Hes been having a lot of new horses come into his stable recently and hes doing well as always. personally i would like to see him win as i think he contributes the most to the sport in nz.

Interestingly the tab still has the dunns as the favorites.House is currently 25 wins in front of them. I know the dunn stable has stables in both islands,so maybe they will catch up. One thing i have noticed in the last 3 weeks is the improvement in the form of their higher grade horses. The likes of Double time,dalton shard,dancetilldawn,bryces medel all have turned there form around in the last couple of starts so maybe they are going to get on a roll. There lower grade horses have been ticking away without those signs of improvement recently,so maybe they will have a pick up in form as well.They have malakai as a hot favorite in the first tommorrow night. I had thought he may be worth a $ and expected a price around $4,but the $2 price hes currently paying seems like one of those bets where the return doesn't warrant the risk.Maybe the whales tipped him?

Edited 20 hours ago by the galah

[Gammalite]

Yes I think it's a 'numbers' and 'quality' game. 

Crystal always has her parents trotters to fall back on for drives , (with Bernie and Michelle being trotting experts)  as the Northern racecards have often had 4 Trotting races these days when used to be only 2 for a long time. 

she did well for a bit to get Group 1 drives on Mach Shard and win the Messenger and that. 

Wilson House working hard with a large team . but only mid quality horses. a Mickey House staple. 

BarryP and ScottP have a very 'select' team including several Group 1 winners. so drives will be hard to get. Harrison Orange won't get much there, but is driving ability sees him get a lot of free-lance. (just like dad lol) 

Carter Dalgety is the cream of the talent though. Won the Auckland Cup recently and drove in the World Drivers Championship in brisvegas . Brodie 'on the money' picking him as the potential best quite a while back.  Dalgety's stable have the ability to buy good yearlings and have real Top stock too. A Queensland mate of mine even has shares in 2 horses there, so their reputation is quite good .the old proven formula.  Quality driver on quality stock = quality WINS  .

Why is the young Dunn not getting stable drives ? Jacob is it ? seems to get wins on some other stable runners. Dunn's have a lot of 'numbers' so should get some drives.  Diamonds have a lot of horses but stingy on the drives. Korbyn Newman has left them to try and get drives here in Queensland lol .will be unsuccessful.  That's a bit of a folly as we have 20 good drivers here who drive about 4-6 horses each, at each meeting. so they take up nearly all the drives. Newman should of gone TELFERS maybe ? 🤔, as they have the 'numbers' of horses,

and as you say Josh Dickie not that 'great a driver' , and surely he is still trying to train horses with his dad up the road from Telfers northern outfit ?? Old Town Road ended up a flop and they lost confidence I think. but loved Speeding Spur (great Southern Star winner)  in the trots before that though. so they do know how to train a horse ok.