Bloke Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 1 hour ago, TAB For Ever said: I was concentrating on those down closer to the South Pole ,where many have extra fingers on their hands and they marry their sisters ! Well according to Sam Neil, students at Christs College were the same as you describe above 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeynz Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 TAB ain't been back, must be piils time and lights out at the rest home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAB For Ever Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 1 hour ago, Special Agent said: As admitted by Bruce Sharrock the Messara Report is being partly used and partly not used by NZTR. What do you think the point of that report is, just to intrigue you maybe? How much do you think the standards have lifted due to the introduction of awards? What do you think clubs can do with the carrot? So tempting to list the places such carrot could be shoved. Which club can't get a quorum? Bruce who ? I sense you quite nasty and indirectly calling me a prick I think crosses the line .....if Chief has standards , he should implement them . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAB For Ever Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 4 hours ago, Extra Dollars said: Absolutely..............NZTR should ask itself why is Riverton a huge success.............. The Club woke its ideas up after the Messara report by renovating several parts of infrastructure...the Jockeys rooms ,the tie ups ,built some stables ,extra paddocks etc . Apparently spent $300k . Plus they had to covert to a plastic running rail as per H & S. They ended up getting an extra good race day ! Of course they finished with jumps racing around that time...thru lack of horses in the South. Indirectly then NZTR was the jolt they needed. They seem a good club and do farming to help Cash flow . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAB For Ever Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 1 hour ago, Bloke said: Well according to Sam Neil, students at Christs College were the same as you describe above Probably.....my Christ College tag came from the Chief ...he likes to have all the ideas so when a poster makes a worthy point he tags you with a negative . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Agent Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 55 minutes ago, TAB For Ever said: I sense you quite nasty and indirectly calling me a prick I think crosses the line .....if Chief has standards , he should implement them . I've heard of reading between the lines. Maybe they are blurred lines on your computer screen as I have no idea what you are on about. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 6 hours ago, TAB For Ever said: Probably.....my Christ College tag came from the Chief ...he likes to have all the ideas so when a poster makes a worthy point he tags you with a negative . Not only is that incorrect but you seem very adept at doing what you describe except you seem to spray tags at random and in volume whenever the facts are put in front of you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 7 hours ago, TAB For Ever said: indirectly calling me a prick I think crosses the line .....if Chief has standards , he should implement them . I'll "indirectly" reprimand @Special Agent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted April 21 Author Share Posted April 21 2 hours ago, Chief Stipe said: I'll "indirectly" reprimand @Special Agent That would be a little unfair since Special Agent never mentioned the word which possibly explains her puzzlement with NZTAB's remark. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 2 hours ago, curious said: That would be a little unfair since Special Agent never mentioned the word which possibly explains her puzzlement with NZTAB's remark. All good I'll "indirectly" reprimand someone. I've already given Mikey a warning about language. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloke Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 14 hours ago, TAB For Ever said: Probably.....my Christ College tag came from the Chief ...he likes to have all the ideas so when a poster makes a worthy point he tags you with a negative . I stand to be corrected but I think you stated that you were a former Christs student. Also, your hometown of Christchurch wasn't any better prior to the earthquakes. I took my youngest down in 2009 when she started at Canterbury Uni and at the initiation, they warned the students not to go into town at night. The central city was filthy, and I went for a coffee just off the square in what appeared to be a reasonable Cafe and then a fight started up between two women and they rolled around on the floor for some time before it was broken up. I was there a few weeks ago and they have done a great job rebuilding the city. Shame that it needed an earthquake though. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted April 22 Author Share Posted April 22 17 hours ago, TAB For Ever said: Probably.....my Christ College tag came from the Chief ...he likes to have all the ideas so when a poster makes a worthy point he tags you with a negative . Why do you see that as a negative? I'm offended. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 10 minutes ago, curious said: Why do you see that as a negative? I'm offended. Geez I took you for a St Thomas's man. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAB For Ever Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 On 4/22/2025 at 2:14 PM, Bloke said: I stand to be corrected but I think you stated that you were a former Christs student. Also, your hometown of Christchurch wasn't any better prior to the earthquakes. I took my youngest down in 2009 when she started at Canterbury Uni and at the initiation, they warned the students not to go into town at night. The central city was filthy, and I went for a coffee just off the square in what appeared to be a reasonable Cafe and then a fight started up between two women and they rolled around on the floor for some time before it was broken up. I was there a few weeks ago and they have done a great job rebuilding the city. Shame that it needed an earthquake though. Maybe I agreed with the Chief's assessment of me and my schooling as I desperately wanted him to be my friend . I thought I had made it clear that I raised and lived mostly in former Racing strongholds which have basically gone down the gurgler so have experienced it First hand ...more than once ! Plus Cantabrians are notoriously one-eyed , although I suppose many are deluded as well ! Re the Chief being my friend , a friend of mine tells me he is currently being 'taken apart ' on other channels so he could indeed need some mates other than the tight five and a couple of wannabes . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAB For Ever Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 On 4/22/2025 at 6:05 AM, Chief Stipe said: I'll "indirectly" reprimand @Special Agent That would be a good 'aftermath'.....many thanks ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAB For Ever Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 On 4/22/2025 at 8:24 AM, curious said: That would be a little unfair since Special Agent never mentioned the word which possibly explains her puzzlement with NZTAB's remark. Well you could do with a 'indirect' telling off to for misleading the readers. Recently when asked why you were so negative toward NZ racing you gave a heart-warming story about how racing had been such a big part of your life and you wanted your own grandies to experience similar....or words to that effect , I cried for hours afterwards. Then more recently you mentioned you had 'left or given up NZ racing ' for a period ,which seems a total contradiction. Something good must have been happening in NZ Racing then for you to resume 'living the dream' . We must be drinking the same Kool Aid ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 1 minute ago, TAB For Ever said: Well you could do with a 'indirect' telling off to for misleading the readers. Recently when asked why you were so negative toward NZ racing you gave a heart-warming story about how racing had been such a big part of your life and you wanted your own grandies to experience similar....or words to that effect , I cried for hours afterwards. Then more recently you mentioned you had 'left or given up NZ racing ' for a period ,which seems a total contradiction. Something good must have been happening in NZ Racing then for you to resume 'living the dream' . We must be drinking the same Kool Aid ! After this latest post I've come to the conclusion you've given up about the future and you are regaling the past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted April 23 Author Share Posted April 23 (edited) 1 hour ago, TAB For Ever said: Something good must have been happening in NZ Racing then for you to resume 'living the dream' . Nope, nothing to do with NZ racing which is poorly managed and in a disastrous and declining state. It was inspired by horses, people and personal challenge. Go back and read that story again if you found it so meaningful. Cry as much as you like. The only dream that remains for me is to support the welfare of horses and humans involved however I can. Edited April 23 by curious 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Agent Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 18 hours ago, TAB For Ever said: Well you could do with a 'indirect' telling off to for misleading the readers. Your posts are a confusing read. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeynz Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 Riverton on Saturday broke their turnover record, 2.13 million 1.5 million on Monday, probably the biggest day for Southland, the New Years day meetings is popular too, if they get the right weather that's a big plus too, strangely the Messara report had initially earmarked Riverton and Gore for closure, and everything move to Ascot Park with its 200m home straight, , I guess it's easy to make ideas that don't have any impact on yourself, strangely about 25 years ago a major study into Southland racing recommended most if not all gallops race at Winton,, slightly drier climate yet strangely Winton was the one they called time, on seems weird as they still run jumpouts and 18 harness meetings each season, it's not like the tracks are closing. Easy to condemn or criticize our tracks as opposed to aussie, but they do have a generally warmer climate, that makes a difference, simple reality is you can't beat the shit out of them all the time, closing tracks and hammering those left has proven some of Messaras ideas ain't worth a pinch of shit. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzza Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 23 minutes ago, mikeynz said: Riverton on Saturday broke their turnover record, 2.13 million 1.5 million on Monday, probably the biggest day for Southland, the New Years day meetings is popular too, if they get the right weather that's a big plus too, strangely the Messara report had initially earmarked Riverton and Gore for closure, and everything move to Ascot Park with its 200m home straight, , I guess it's easy to make ideas that don't have any impact on yourself, strangely about 25 years ago a major study into Southland racing recommended most if not all gallops race at Winton,, slightly drier climate yet strangely Winton was the one they called time, on seems weird as they still run jumpouts and 18 harness meetings each season, it's not like the tracks are closing. Easy to condemn or criticize our tracks as opposed to aussie, but they do have a generally warmer climate, that makes a difference, simple reality is you can't beat the shit out of them all the time, closing tracks and hammering those left has proven some of Messaras ideas ain't worth a pinch of shit. Most of the Messara report re tracks was NZTR in disguise. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doomed Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 3 hours ago, Muzza said: Most of the Messara report re tracks was NZTR in disguise. Yes, it was so badly thought out it couldn't possibly have been written by someone with more than half a brain. And Messara through his achievements has shown himself to be an intelligent person. He must be highly embarrassed now when he looks backs and sees the inanity of some of the recommendations attributed to him that were included at the instigation of others. I must admit, I tended to dismiss his whole report because the bits I had reasonable understanding of were so badly thought out. Ironically they were probably the easiest bits to get right. He probably didn't dwell over the bits he thought were quite straightforward. Still, as a presumably intelligent person, he must take his share of responsibility for trusting the advice of halfwits. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeynz Posted Tuesday at 12:36 AM Share Posted Tuesday at 12:36 AM (edited) Time honored Masterton cup has 6 noms, not bad for the club of the year nominee. Who makes up that crap.? Edited Tuesday at 12:37 AM by mikeynz 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Beau Posted Wednesday at 06:40 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 06:40 AM On 24/04/2025 at 2:22 PM, Muzza said: Most of the Messara report re tracks was NZTR in disguise. You are 100% correct Muzza. In some areas he wrote what they told him to. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAB For Ever Posted Wednesday at 08:48 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 08:48 AM 2 hours ago, Dark Beau said: You are 100% correct Muzza. In some areas he wrote what they told him to. Well its historical now ,nearly 5 years ago and you two are the first to heap the praise on and credit NZTR for such a game-changing document. Odd that the NZ Industry couldn't pay its bills and was close to insolvency ,yet had the solution to their predicament all along. And hard to imagine a hard-nosed Aussie with a sound leadership reputation would allow himself to be used in this way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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