curious Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago (edited) 50 minutes ago, supporter61 said: So the answers and data is already out. The review just puts it in one basket. It didn't do anything of the sort. It provided injury and turnover stats for the synthetics. The pending report is quite different as @Special Agent noted above, though I understand it contains some more detail on the injury data as well. Edited 4 hours ago by curious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supporter61 Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 36 minutes ago, curious said: It didn't do anything of the sort. It provided injury and turnover stats for the synthetics. The pending report is quite different as @Special Agent noted above, though I understand it contains some more detail on the injury data as well. It showed , as the new report will , very flawed data based on reported and opinionated information. It makes comparisons based on the same data. Example being , because of the lets say "interest " in the 3 poly tracks any snippet of information , especially information that may show adverse statistics for poly , it is more likely to be sought out and recorded. Things like shin soreness , jarring or muscular strains that we have lived with and accepted for many many years are not noted and delt with within a stable context , thus the report will be flawed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago (edited) 12 minutes ago, supporter61 said: It showed , as the new report will , very flawed data based on reported and opinionated information. It makes comparisons based on the same data. Example being , because of the lets say "interest " in the 3 poly tracks any snippet of information , especially information that may show adverse statistics for poly , it is more likely to be sought out and recorded. Things like shin soreness , jarring or muscular strains that we have lived with and accepted for many many years are not noted and delt with within a stable context , thus the report will be flawed. I repeat, it is not the purpose of the pending report to report injury data. The researchers themselves are clear that there is currently insufficient data to draw any substantive conclusions from that. It certainly won't contain anything like the anecdotal injury data that you mention above. I'm struggling to see why you can't understand that. Edited 3 hours ago by curious 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supporter61 Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 19 minutes ago, curious said: I repeat, it is not the purpose of the pending report to report injury data. The researchers themselves are clear that there is currently insufficient data to draw any substantive conclusions from that. It certainly won't contain anything like the anecdotal injury data that you mention above. I'm struggling to see why you can't understand that. Your comment " It provided injury and turnover stats for the synthetics. The pending report is quite different as @Special Agent noted above, though I understand it contains some more detail on the injury data as well. " Injury and turnover""Of which I responded to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 17 minutes ago, supporter61 said: Your comment " It provided injury and turnover stats for the synthetics. The pending report is quite different as @Special Agent noted above, though I understand it contains some more detail on the injury data as well. " Injury and turnover""Of which I responded to. Perhaps my point wasn't clear. Injury and turnover were the focus of the September report, not the pending one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newmarket Posted 2 hours ago Author Share Posted 2 hours ago Well, you know what’s next….. the greenies will jump on this twisted info…. then in a few years Curious, Mustang and Freda will be having a drink discussing what to do next while racing is no longer…. Just race on it ….no real statistics will be out for several years…. not been racing on it long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 56 minutes ago, Newmarket said: Well, you know what’s next….. the greenies will jump on this twisted info…. then in a few years Curious, Mustang and Freda will be having a drink discussing what to do next while racing is no longer…. Just race on it ….no real statistics will be out for several years…. not been racing on it long. More substantive injury data will be out after this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted 15 minutes ago Share Posted 15 minutes ago (edited) Another thing. Last September, NZTR said: We are also improving the transparency and communication of information about the synthetic tracks by moving to publish the Clegg hammer readings prior to raceday for all synthetic track meetings. Clegg hammers record the level of compaction of the synthetic profile. The publication of these readings will give comfort that the tracks are where they need to be and avoid speculation and misinformation filling the void. Anyone seen these readings yet? Oh yes. They are there for Cambridge. I don't think we got them for Riccarton did we? Nomination Morning Weather: Fine Track: Synthetic Clegg Hammer: 79 Edited 12 minutes ago by curious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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